Speculations Kizaru won the fight against Luffy

Those barriers aint Kizaru's power... great.

What did Luffy accomplish? Mmm stopping Kizaru maybe? Which was Kizaru's goal.....
Those building Kizaru body hit aint Luffy power , a lot of damage to his body was done be them ... great.

So Luffy managed to stop someone who was not even fighting him at that moment . . . Very impressive.
 
Those building Kizaru body hit aint Luffy power , a lot of damage to his body was done be them ... great.

So Luffy managed to stop someone who was not even fighting him at that moment . . . Very impressive.
Hahahha

Yeah, stopped someone who was running and didnt want to fight a Yonko cause he knew he was gonna lose, much worse, he was knocked with 1 hit.
 
Hahahha

Yeah, stopped someone who was running and didnt want to fight a Yonko cause he knew he was gonna lose, much worse, he was knocked with 1 hit.
In your headcanon Kizaru knew he was gonna lose yet in reality that did not happen , he is still there fighting . Also Luffy is one that needed help not Kizaru .
 
In your headcanon Kizaru knew he was gonna lose yet in reality that did not happen , he is still there fighting . Also Luffy is one that needed help not Kizaru .

Dude, the fight stopped the moment both were on the floor. Kizaru did nothing.

Of course Luffy is more tired, but not much thanks to Kizaru.
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Petition to turn this into the next "Yonkos lost to magma"

Admirals be losing to buildings.... better watch out for Wapol and Pizarro
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Luffy's not a solid top-tier yet. What good is it to knock down your opponents if you pass out afterwards and they stand back up before you do? Unless you kill them like Kaido, of course.
 
That wasn't a fight, it was a very plot-driven cat-and-mouse game.

The real battle begins now that Kizaru has learned that he can do nothing but kill his own friends.
 
When Luffy comes out of G4 on his own he is fine. When he comes out by timelimit he is exhausted. G5 is the same thing but instead of haki he is depleting his DF.

Not true. When Luffy first started using G4, and he used it against Big Mom, when he came out of it after only using it for a few seconds , there was a massive amount of smoke, and he was exhausted. Sanji actually grabbed him and ran off with him. This was after he had used G4 for 20 times the length of time against both Doflamingo and Cracker. And Luffy was damn near 100 percent fresh when this happened. It was 5 seconds use at best, and he was acting like he used it for 10 minutes. That's just Oda being over dramatic, just like with the Lucci situation.
 
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Not true. When Luffy first started using G4, and he used it against Big Mom, when he came out of it after only using it for a few seconds , there was a massive amount of smoke, and he was exhausted. Sanji actually grabbed him and ran off with him. This was after he had used G4 for 20 times the length of time against both Doflamingo and Cracker. And Luffy was damn near 100 percent fresh when this happened. It was 5 seconds use at best, and he was acting like he used it for 10 minutes. That's just Oda being over dramatic, just like with the Lucci situation.
Big Mom did something against Luffy that made him like that. Probably she used her DF to take his soul or energy IDK. Oda never fully explained that shit.
 
Big Mom did something against Luffy that made him like that. Probably she used her DF to take his soul or energy IDK. Oda never fully explained that shit.
Except that has never been shown to be an ability of Big Mom's, ever.

We know what Luffy looked like coming out of G4, which is exactly what he looked like in that instance with Big Mom.
 
If you wanna do the boxing match shit then alright.
Let's say they were in the ring. A huge ring. Like the Dark Tournament ring from YYH.
Is there any reason, any reason at all, for Luffy to not use ACoA and ACoC from the jump?
It's not taxing. It massively boosts his power. It's a net positive.
Yet in the real fight, he never used ACoC until the very end, and didn't use ACoA in G5 though he used it in Snakeman.
It is painfully obvious that Oda purposefully stopped him from using those purely to make it easier for Kizaru to survive and to drag out the fight, because nobody wanted to see him just get one shot and beat up, this isn't a Luffy vs Blueno kind of fight.
 
If you wanna do the boxing match shit then alright.
Let's say they were in the ring. A huge ring. Like the Dark Tournament ring from YYH.
Is there any reason, any reason at all, for Luffy to not use ACoA and ACoC from the jump?
It's not taxing. It massively boosts his power. It's a net positive.
Yet in the real fight, he never used ACoC until the very end, and didn't use ACoA in G5 though he used it in Snakeman.
It is painfully obvious that Oda purposefully stopped him from using those purely to make it easier for Kizaru to survive and to drag out the fight, because nobody wanted to see him just get one shot and beat up, this isn't a Luffy vs Blueno kind of fight.
People like you that pretend to be able to magically mind read Oda are so sad man.
 
People like you that pretend to be able to magically mind read Oda are so sad man.
"Magically mind read" Mother fucker he literally had Luffy spamming ACoA and ACoC all throughout his fight with Kaidou and magically had him stop doing it against Lucci and Kizaru, it's not rocket science, he clearly had him holding back.
Like it's so bizarre that you can believe Kizaru was holding back because "he was mentally torn" but it's crazy to say that Luffy was holding back because he didn't use the power up that he used from chapter 1000-1050.
 
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