One Piece Chapter 1104 : Thanks Daddy

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I've been rereading the manga recently and noticed something. Goofy didn't beat anyone in a 1 on 1 battle honestly post ts. It's just fucked up. 1) Go vs Goofy = goofy almost died, he had a blood transfusion. 2) Goofy ran away from Monet almost losing the fight. 3) Goofy ran away from doflomingo, despite Lo's huge help. The whole country was saving him, literally. 4) Nufi ran away from the cracker for 11 hours, nami fed him and removed the armor from the cracker. 5) Goofy ran away from Katakuri through the mirror and rested. 6) Gafi fell from one blow of Apu 7) Grufi rested 5 times against Kaido and 90% of the work was done by Zoro and the rest, gafi only finished off with the help of Niki and Joy boy. 8) Nufi couldn't scratch the mini king and ran away from him. 9) Grafi ran away from Lucci, who was fine, and naffi couldn't fight. 10) Duffy was given food and hidden from Kizaru, who got up earlier and goes to beat nakama. The worst and weakest gg in the jump.... And it's with someone else's god power......
Now I understand why many people like Zoro
Bro you are coping too much. How many more posts are you going to make regarding this? Luffy flattened Kizaru with one serious ACoC punch. There is no need to post Luffy's condition right after G5 when he goofed around against Kizaru most of the time and did not use any advanced Haki
 
Bro you are coping too much. How many more posts are you going to make regarding this? Luffy flattened Kizaru with one serious ACoC punch. There is no need to post Luffy's condition right after G5 when he goofed around against Kizaru most of the time and did not use any advanced Haki
For some reason Admiral fans get really mad when you simply mention the fact that Oda held Luffy back even though it's really evident that he barely used ACoA and ACoC throughout the whole fight.
 
If Biden had crazy regen and was a damn bug, then the punch wouldn't be a story at all.

Y'all are delusional if you think saturn at the very least isn't getting maimed hard/loosing some organs.
It would still be big news since you can't even touch them ( it was world news when a normal CD get hit and they send a admiral ) in the OP world .
This would still be huge news due to fact that Saturn is one of the heads of the world him healing or not don't take away the fact of what he represents .
Still i sure the shocking news is more than that but the bar can be very low is what i saying .
As for Saturn what happens to him totally depends if he going down this arc or not and from what i seeing it could still go either way .
 
Bro you are coping too much. How many more posts are you going to make regarding this? Luffy flattened Kizaru with one serious ACoC punch. There is no need to post Luffy's condition right after G5 when he goofed around against Kizaru most of the time and did not use any advanced Haki
Stop crying bro. Goofy spent g4 and g5 and the morally broken kizaru beat off with his hands or dodged 99% of the attacks, he was not even knocked out, he got up and continued to fight, goofy meanwhile begs for help and even after receiving food, he is unable to get up and therefore he was hidden. In a 1-on-1 fight, it's over for Goofy.
 
Well, all nice and good but Saturn is the biggest scumbag of the arc and Luffy always gets pissed off by such.
He had a go vs Kizaru and achieved literally nothing but a forced stalling device... Before it, Kizaru was handling him without any trouble.
So, he is either against a good CQC fighter like Kizaru, who he cannot handle even when Kizaru doesnt put serious effort or he is against a guy with regeneration... Idk what match-up is worse for him, lol. Knowing Oda, nothing will happen and we will leave Egghead.

In that case, Luffy wont get to beat an Admiral or an Elder before other Strawhat members.
He will be chasing after Imu, yelling >Where is Vivi?! while his friends take on Admirals/Elders.
This has already happened with Luffy never getting to beat Enel's priests and Sanji literally took Satori from him.
We can give Luffy smol credit for holding onto Satori but that is it. It can only backfire if you think he has to beat both first.

It has also never happened that Luffy had no quarrel with a major enemy like it is the case with Kizaru.
Luffy will beat Kizaru extreme diff.
Doing so sets the power levels of the admirals as comparable to current Luffy
It sets up luffy needing a power up to defeat someone like Sakazuki who is above the current admirals
And it sets the power levels of anyone who defeats the other two admirals.

Luffy vs Kizaru is just the simplest way for oda to confirm so much moving forward in terms of power levels of these characters imo.
 
If Biden had crazy regen and was a damn bug, then the punch wouldn't be a story at all.

Y'all are delusional if you think saturn at the very least isn't getting maimed hard/loosing some organs.
The grand delusion has already begun. The "Luffy defeats Saturn" narrative is practically dead at this point. The Marines' comment on the punch is the final nail in the coffin. Saturn's getting out of the arc squeaky clean. Stay salty. :saturn:
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Luffy will beat Kizaru extreme diff.
Doing so sets the power levels of the admirals as comparable to current Luffy
It sets up luffy needing a power up to defeat someone like Sakazuki who is above the current admirals
And it sets the power levels of anyone who defeats the other two admirals.

Luffy vs Kizaru is just the simplest way for oda to confirm so much moving forward in terms of power levels of these characters imo.
Akainu isnt above the Admirals, that's the whole point of not being able to beat Kuzan for 9 days...
Luffy couldnt beat Kizaru who plot forced to use 0 named attacks, how will he beat Kizaru by showing off everything?
Also, you shouldnt be power scaling a Looney Toon seriously. Luffy and power scaling are not a thing anymore.

Only things that dont change is that he is never strong enough to win alone and will always get help.
Nobody has ever power scaled correctly any character by looking at it through Luffy lenses.
People have always been fooled into believing that people Luffy fights are incredibly strong while it is not the case.
 
Akainu isnt above the Admirals, that's the whole point of not being able to beat Kuzan for 9 days...
Luffy couldnt beat Kizaru who plot forced to use 0 named attacks, how will he beat Kizaru by showing off everything?
Also, you shouldnt be power scaling a Looney Toon seriously. Luffy and power scaling are not a thing anymore.

Only things that dont change is that he is never strong enough to win alone and will always get help.
Nobody has ever power scaled correctly any character by looking at it through Luffy lenses.
People have always been fooled into believing that people Luffy fights are incredibly strong while it is not the case.
Sakazuki and Kuzan are above Kizaru Ryo and Fuji.

And when Luffy comes back he’ll fight using coc coating in every attack like he did against Kaido.
 

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
Sakazuki and Kuzan are above Kizaru Ryo and Fuji.
Made up by agenda pushers.
Kizaru, Ryo and Fuji might as well be stronger than those two.

And when Luffy comes back he’ll fight using coc coating in every attack like he did against Kaido.
Stronger attacks wont change anything.
He never landed them on Kizaru to begin with.
So making them stronger wont change anything.
 
Made up by agenda pushers.
Kizaru, Ryo and Fuji might as well be stronger than those two.


Stronger attacks wont change anything.
He never landed them on Kizaru to begin with.
So making them stronger wont change anything.
With Gear 5 Luffy was starting to actually be able to make contact with his attacks. Just Gear 4 and lower can’t because that luffys too weak.

And sakazuki and kuzan have better feats and portrayal so I don’t think it’s just agenda that pushes them above the other admirals.
 
Akainu isnt above the Admirals, that's the whole point of not being able to beat Kuzan for 9 days...
Luffy couldnt beat Kizaru who plot forced to use 0 named attacks, how will he beat Kizaru by showing off everything?
Also, you shouldnt be power scaling a Looney Toon seriously. Luffy and power scaling are not a thing anymore.

Only things that dont change is that he is never strong enough to win alone and will always get help.
Nobody has ever power scaled correctly any character by looking at it through Luffy lenses.
People have always been fooled into believing that people Luffy fights are incredibly strong while it is not the case.
How many name attacks did luffy do during that fight in G5 .
Kizaru did 2 name attacks and luffy did 2 name attacks .( you can check the manga the fight just part of 3 chapters lol .)
So i not certain where you going with the plot made Kizaru not use name attacks lol .
 
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With Gear 5 Luffy was starting to actually be able to make contact with his attacks. Just Gear 4 and lower can’t because that luffys too weak.

And sakazuki and kuzan have better feats and portrayal so I don’t think it’s just agenda that pushes them above the other admirals.
Let's not be biased. Luffy, for the entire g5 limit and hundreds of punches, was able to stun Kizara for a couple of minutes and fell into a coma. Kizaru, who didn't even want to fight and was mentally broken. The Admiral literally fended off hundreds of g5 strikes or dodged them. Moreover, Goofy is still lying while Kizaru is fighting. 1 on 1 Luffy lost the fight. And we do not take into account the help and food. I want to see kizara at 100%
 
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