Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

You're implying people have no right to private property and ownership

Oh really ? Is this what I'm implying ?
So you don't really understand the concept of restriction ? But, how can you be certain that you can't own me in that case ?

The human rights bill and it seems you don't like human rights lmfao

Oh I love human rights. But I consider that human rights are not absolutes. And every text change and can evolve.

This guy is a clown.

And yet, you avoided almost all my questions...

In reality you can't reply to all of them. You simply can't, because it would bring you in front of your contradictions. So just like people who forget traumatic events, you simply make them disappear.

You can't explain why there are so many inequalities in our world. With your current system of thinking, it doesn't register, its does not compute. Its impossible for you to imagine a world where capitalism doesn't exist and yet, you are witnessing all those atrocities, the inequalities, the wars, the poors..

So you switch in backup mode, you create a parrallel world where the big red and therefore the left is in control. And who can blame you ? After all, you were just born into this world and all you see now are shows that tells you that we should fight racism or fight homophobia. So keep your imagination going. The left does not control just the show you watch (because lets be honest, you watch them), it controls also the states, the politics, the economic, the powers, the world ...

So in your world, the left must be at fault for all the wars, all the famines, all the poors, all the atrocities... and yet... you have in front of you someone who is telling you that the power is the problem, that Billionnaires (the ones who inspires you) are the problems, that the right is in control of everything... And i'm sure that deep down.. you can't help but noticing glimps of reality:

You see how billionnaires talk about the poor and the lower classes, you see their contradictions
You see that the right, the conservative and the far right are everywhere on the internet
You see that black people are being killed by the police every years
You see that a far right and conservative government is making a genocide and a colonization process
You see how the left is being treated in the streets by governments
You see that liberals and those who defend the free market are in power in the US and Europe

You can't deny those things....
So you switch in ghost backup mode... a more hidden backup system. This time, you need to create a world focused only on me. A world where "I" am the problem. Where Logiko is the representation of the things you hate. So you find and take what scares you the most and label me with it. "A commi" (the bad kind, because in your head, "commi" can only be authoritative)

Commi are just a name you give on "change". Change can only be dramatic. Change can only be hurtfull.

Because someone told you so or maybe because you were born in a changing society and because you are , somehow, suffering.

And you face a new contradiction.

If I'm a human right hater, how come that I'm always defending those who are oppressed ? Fighting for poor, for women, for minorities, LGBTQ+, Palestinians..
If my thinking is hegemonic, how come that I'm the only one on this forum advocating for a reformation of the staff's guidelines ?
If I'm such a bad person, how come that I'm the one person on this conversation that has never launched insults toward you, even when I consider you one of my worst political ennemy here ?

Can you explain those three mysteries ?

Or are you about to create a new world to run from a potential better version of yourself ?

How long are you going to run from your fears ?

 

[Bob74h]

You can't explain why there are so many inequalities in our world. With your current system of thinking, it doesn't register, its does not compute. Its impossible for you to imagine a world where capitalism doesn't exist and yet, you are witnessing all those atrocities, the inequalities, the wars, the poors..

cause people are gonna pass on their weath to their offspring


and rich people have more weath to pass on so consider that going on for countless generations



and the top top class are always going to have more money as result of them simply being born into very sucessful fammiles

 

[NAMELESS]

Oh really ? Is this what I'm implying ?
So you don't really understand the concept of restriction ? But, how can you be certain that you can't own me in that case ?



Oh I love human rights. But I consider that human rights are not absolutes. And every text change and can evolve.


And yet, you avoided almost all my questions...

In reality you can't reply to all of them. You simply can't, because it would bring you in front of your contradictions. So just like people who forget traumatic events, you simply make them disappear.

You can't explain why there are so many inequalities in our world. With your current system of thinking, it doesn't register, its does not compute. Its impossible for you to imagine a world where capitalism doesn't exist and yet, you are witnessing all those atrocities, the inequalities, the wars, the poors..

So you switch in backup mode, you create a parrallel world where the big red and therefore the left is in control. And who can blame you ? After all, you were just born into this world and all you see now are shows that tells you that we should fight racism or fight homophobia. So keep your imagination going. The left does not control just the show you watch (because lets be honest, you watch them), it controls also the states, the politics, the economic, the powers, the world ...

So in your world, the left must be at fault for all the wars, all the famines, all the poors, all the atrocities... and yet... you have in front of you someone who is telling you that the power is the problem, that Billionnaires (the ones who inspires you) are the problems, that the right is in control of everything... And i'm sure that deep down.. you can't help but noticing glimps of reality:

You see how billionnaires talk about the poor and the lower classes, you see their contradictions
You see that the right, the conservative and the far right are everywhere on the internet
You see that black people are being killed by the police every years
You see that a far right and conservative government is making a genocide and a colonization process
You see how the left is being treated in the streets by governments
You see that liberals and those who defend the free market are in power in the US and Europe

You can't deny those things....
So you switch in ghost backup mode... a more hidden backup system. This time, you need to create a world focused only on me. A world where "I" am the problem. Where Logiko is the representation of the things you hate. So you find and take what scares you the most and label me with it. "A commi" (the bad kind, because in your head, "commi" can only be authoritative)

Commi are just a name you give on "change". Change can only be dramatic. Change can only be hurtfull.

Because someone told you so or maybe because you were born in a changing society and because you are , somehow, suffering.

And you face a new contradiction.

If I'm a human right hater, how come that I'm always defending those who are oppressed ? Fighting for poor, for women, for minorities, LGBTQ+, Palestinians..
If my thinking is hegemonic, how come that I'm the only one on this forum advocating for a reformation of the staff's guidelines ?
If I'm such a bad person, how come that I'm the one person on this conversation that has never launched insults toward you, even when I consider you one of my worst political ennemy here ?

Can you explain those three mysteries ?

Or are you about to create a new world to run from a potential better version of yourself ?

How long are you going to run from your fears ?

Billionaires profit for your ideology,you moron. Such a system prevents people from asceding the economical ladder and so the current status quo can keep their hegemony safe. Inequalities exist because people are unequal you can't replicante the feats of geniuses or the feats of super athletes.
Some people are just better than 99.9% of other people in something. Naturally some people develop the ability to create such vast wealth. Capitalism is systematically eradicating poverty all over the globe. If it weren't for capitalism,you would be working right now despite whatever illness you have.
The right is everywhere because the average joe has conservative values and does not wish for a Utopia. People merely wish to live their lives. Good thing the US and EU are run by capitalists,otherwise you guy would be as poor as the other banana republics. You ain't defending shit,just virtue signalling.
Your thinking is how the ruling class(big media,billionaries,intelectuals and so on) think,so you are hegemonic. You have insulted pretty much the entire forum over your silly ideas. I'm not the one in my mid 30's spending my life away by reading shitty cartoons and being a militant in a weeb forum. Don't project what YOU are onto others.

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@Logiko Your ideology is Satanism. An unholy thing.
GENESIS 3:19
"By the sweat of your face you shall eat bread, till you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken; for you are dust, and to dust you shall return.”

NINTH COMMANDMANT
"You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, or his manservant, or his maidservant, or his ox, or anything that is your neighbor's."

SAMUEL 10
Saul Anointed King
10 Then Samuel took a flask of oil and poured it on his head and kissed him and said, “Has not the Lord anointed you to be prince[a] over his people Israel? And you shall reign over the people of the Lord and you will save them from the hand of their surrounding enemies. And this shall be the sign to you that the Lord has anointed you to be prince[b] over his heritage. 2 When you depart from me today, you will meet two men by Rachel's tomb in the territory of Benjamin at Zelzah, and they will say to you, ‘The donkeys that you went to seek are found, and now your father has ceased to care about the donkeys and is anxious about you, saying, “What shall I do about my son?”’ 3 Then you shall go on from there farther and come to the oak of Tabor. Three men going up to God at Bethel will meet you there, one carrying three young goats, another carrying three loaves of bread, and another carrying a skin of wine. 4 And they will greet you and give you two loaves of bread, which you shall accept from their hand. 5 After that you shall come to Gibeath-elohim,[c] where there is a garrison of the Philistines. And there, as soon as you come to the city, you will meet a group of prophets coming down from the high place with harp, tambourine, flute, and lyre before them, prophesying. 6 Then the Spirit of the Lord will rush upon you, and you will prophesy with them and be turned into another man. 7 Now when these signs meet you, do what your hand finds to do, for God is with you. 8 Then go down before me to Gilgal. And behold, I am coming down to you to offer burnt offerings and to sacrifice peace offerings. Seven days you shall wait, until I come to you and show you what you shall do.”

9 When he turned his back to leave Samuel, God gave him another heart. And all these signs came to pass that day. 10 When they came to Gibeah,[d] behold, a group of prophets met him, and the Spirit of God rushed upon him, and he prophesied among them. 11 And when all who knew him previously saw how he prophesied with the prophets, the people said to one another, “What has come over the son of Kish? Is Saul also among the prophets?” 12 And a man of the place answered, “And who is their father?” Therefore it became a proverb, “Is Saul also among the prophets?” 13 When he had finished prophesying, he came to the high place.

14 Saul's uncle said to him and to his servant, “Where did you go?” And he said, “To seek the donkeys. And when we saw they were not to be found, we went to Samuel.” 15 And Saul's uncle said, “Please tell me what Samuel said to you.” 16 And Saul said to his uncle, “He told us plainly that the donkeys had been found.” But about the matter of the kingdom, of which Samuel had spoken, he did not tell him anything.

Saul Proclaimed King
17 Now Samuel called the people together to the Lord at Mizpah. 18 And he said to the people of Israel, “Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel, ‘I brought up Israel out of Egypt, and I delivered you from the hand of the Egyptians and from the hand of all the kingdoms that were oppressing you.’ 19 But today you have rejected your God, who saves you from all your calamities and your distresses, and you have said to him, ‘Set a king over us.’ Now therefore present yourselves before the Lord by your tribes and by your thousands.”

20 Then Samuel brought all the tribes of Israel near, and the tribe of Benjamin was taken by lot. 21 He brought the tribe of Benjamin near by its clans, and the clan of the Matrites was taken by lot;[e] and Saul the son of Kish was taken by lot. But when they sought him, he could not be found. 22 So they inquired again of the Lord, “Is there a man still to come?” and the Lord said, “Behold, he has hidden himself among the baggage.” 23 Then they ran and took him from there. And when he stood among the people, he was taller than any of the people from his shoulders upward. 24 And Samuel said to all the people, “Do you see him whom the Lord has chosen? There is none like him among all the people.” And all the people shouted, “Long live the king!”

25 Then Samuel told the people the rights and duties of the kingship, and he wrote them in a book and laid it up before the Lord. Then Samuel sent all the people away, each one to his home. 26 Saul also went to his home at Gibeah, and with him went men of valor whose hearts God had touched. 27 But some worthless fellows said, “How can this man save us?” And they despised him and brought him no present. But he held his peace.

 

[Logiko]

Billionaires profit for your ideology,you moron.

Oh but that's completely correct. Billionnaires DO profit of my ideology.. but the thing you are forgetting to check... is that

The thing you are forgetting to notice, is that the one between me and you who is defending the way of life of Billionnaires.. is not me..

Its you.

Such a system prevents people from asceding the economical ladder and so the current status quo can keep their hegemony safe.

You mean, meritocracy ? The system you are defending right now ? Yes, indeed. It prevent people from climbing the ladders of success.

Inequalities exist because people are unequal

Are you saying that there are people born superior and inferior here ?

Some people are just better than 99.9% of other people in something

Indeed, there are very rare exceptions where this is the case, but those people will most likely not become Billionaires, but scientists or artists.

Funny thing is.. even when such people exist, a natural gift is not enough for success.

So this argument is simply irrelevant.

Naturally some people develop the ability to create such vast wealth

No, not naturally.
If natural gift was enough to create enormous amounts of wealth, and if society was really equal to give a chance for all to shine... you wouldn't just see a few Billionaires, but millions and millions...

In your parrallel world where we human can surpass even creation and create success out of nothingness and our own will, you are completely underestimating the potential genius in humanity itself and crediting it only to a handfull of people.

We ALL have the potential to create enormous amounts of wealth in specific conditions.

Capitalism is systematically eradicating poverty all over the globe.

Wait, you are telling me that since capitalism exist (since around the XVIIe century following some theories or since the end of the middle age following others) it has been systematically eradicating poverty all over the globe ?

Wait, so why is there still hardcore poverty then ?

Are you kissing your mother with this mouth ?

Do you really believe that lie ? Are you really that blind that you can't even see the level of poverty in your own country ? In the US ? In Europe ? In Africa ? Do you actually believe that capitalism is just "that slow".. and that its must "take time" ?

Are you really that naive ?

If it weren't for capitalism,you would be working right now despite whatever illness you have.

OMG.. You are completely missing the point...

Its not capitalism that allows me to heal in peace mate. That's what you are completely missunderstanding.
Its the socialist reforms FIGHTING capitalism that are allowing me to do that. Why do you think that the US don't have Health care but we do in France ? Its not the right and its not capitalism that allowed those progress.

Its the F*cking LEFT who arrived in power and made thing change. Its the fight AGAINST capitalism.

The right is everywhere because the average joe has conservative values and does not wish for a Utopia.

Indeed. Because people like you are telling them not to hope for anything. And especially to hate those like me who are trying to give them hope.

Your thinking is how the ruling class(big media,billionaries,intelectuals and so on think),so you are hegemonic.

Wait .. so I'm right now telling you that we - the left - wants to fight and end capitalism and the rich.. but for you my thinking is somehow hegemonic because of media and billionaries think the same ?

Dude.. Are you that naive that you can't see the paradoxe here ?

For real ? No really !! ... Check back that sentence again.. think for with your reason and not your fears for once !

You are telling me that depise the fact that I tell you that I want to end capitalism and the rich, I think like a Billionaire ?

Are you freaking ok ?

You have insulted pretty much the entire forum over your silly ideas

Wait, how can someone insult anyone without saying any insults in any ways ?



I'm finally touching the fourth dimension of the brain of a conservatist. I'm finally touching the core contradictions of a defender of capitalism..

Somehow.. i'm the one who is hateful, antihuman rights, a clown, a retard, a stupid leftist (note the insults).. making your replying to each one of my post with another one and yet....

You keep avoiding replying to all my questions




Its seems that you are not finished running from your fears...

 

[Bob74h]

You claimed to not be a filthy communist,but that is exactly what you are. You just lack balls to say it out loud in an anime forum(behind a keyboard btw). You must the bravest man irl lmfao

same guy said he would get into a brawl with a dude to protect a random woman on the street



the irony is not lost on me

 

[Logiko]

same guy said he would get into a brawl with a dude to protect a random woman on the street

Why are you complimenting me all of a sudden ?

 

[Bob74h]

Oh but that's completely correct. Billionnaires DO profit of my ideology.. but the thing you are forgetting to check... is that

doubt they are making bank by parroting leftist idealogy


and what's funny


you told me they were liberals not leftists and such things were different


now you say these rich liberals are holding your stance ie a leftist one



you literally only saying shit when it's convenint to your idealogical beliefs

Some people are just better than 99.9% of other people in something.

biden cant talk or walk without somebody helping him


im pretty sure anyone here is better then the literal dementia vitchim


and yet despite of that biden is richer then most here



are you saying he's skilled???



skilled at what, being so bad at his job???

Are you saying that there are people born superior and inferior here ?

arent you the same dude who thinks that women and black people are inherently lesser then white men


cause they privilged and the protected groups are not



your idealogy rests in assuming white men are just born better like wtf you on


your whole stance on issues focusing on looking at a opressor and opressed class of people

Do you really believe that lie ? Are you really that blind that you can't even see the level of poverty in your own country ? In the US ? In Europe ? In Africa ? Do you actually believe that capitalism is just "that slow".. and that its must "take time" ?

yea nameless's take is retarded



ig the minium wage people who cant afford housing or the poor homeless men just wanted to suffer cause reasons



it takes money to make money


so those who lack connections or some starting weath from inheritance, your kinda just screwed


it's not exactly fair



loads of people cant afford to leave abusive households as a result of proverty and raising cost of income

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Why are you complimenting me all of a sudden ?

i think risking your life for randoms is stupid



but if you see throwing your life away as a valid thing, you go for it man



im more on your side in regards to the issue of income classes



rich people arent generally getting their positions by merit




usa is more of a oligarchy then a meritocracy



ultimately a meritocracy system would solely favor those few who can perform the best in atheltics,science or whatever



it would harm a majourity of men so im opposed




ultimately society should benefit the majourity the most instead of some minorties



what's better


a system where 5 are happy or a system where millions are


does not mean miniorties should suffer just that they shouldt suceed at the expense of the overall popluation like how the rich benefit on the expense of poor men

 

[Logiko]

you told me they were liberals not leftists and such things were different


now you say these rich liberals are holding your stance ie a leftist one

Careful. You didn't read my words correctly. I said that Billionnaire do PROFIT from my ideology. Doing profit over leftism doesn't mean that they are doing right leftism. No. Instead like I told you, what they do is that they use my ideology -the leftist one - as a BAIT.

For liberal, leftist ideology is just another way of making business. So they are parasiting this ideology, by transforming it into a liberal one. This is why I constantly say to you that there exist liberal progressist.

Liberal progressist are liberal who - by the urge of profit or by to get voted in - are using leftist key points and depoliticizing them as much as possible in order to make them bankable on a larger audience or market and make them work with capitalism.

This is one of the reason why leftist kinda hate liberals. They are completely parasiting our ideologies.

arent you the same dude who thinks that women and black people are inherently lesser then white men

THe F*ck ?? Can you stop lying and promoting fascist stuff please ?
I never said that.

You are confusing being oppressed and being inferior. What is the matter with you ????????

cause they privilged and the protected groups are not

Being priviledge doesn't mean that you are superior. The F is wrong with you ?

your idealogy rests in assuming white men are just born better like wtf you on


your whole stance on issues focusing on looking at a opressor and opressed class of people

You are completely missunderstanding and transforming what I'm saying mate. Careful.

White men are NOT born better, they are born in a more priviledge environment. That's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.
Can you care to F*cking read what I say and try to UNDERSTAND IT before you start replying please ? Because you are not really shining right now...

your whole stance on issues focusing on looking at a opressor and opressed class of people

Indeed. Once you understand where are the oppressed people and where are the oppressor and what they stand for, then you will start to understand VERY CLEARLY the entire political spectrum.

yea nameless's take is retarded



ig the minium wage people who cant afford housing or the poor homeless men just wanted to suffer cause reasons



it takes money to make money


so those who lack connections or some starting weath from inheritance, your kinda just screwed


it's not exactly fair



loads of people cant afford to leave abusive households as a result of proverty and raising cost of income

You are already understanding the basis of the notion of economic capital.

And that's why I think you have the potential to become a real leftist.... If only you weren't so obsessed by an incel and some far right ideologies focused on a non existing oppression on men, you would be doing great things.

i think risking your life for randoms is stupid

That's very ... very sad.

 

[Bob74h]

White men are NOT born better, they are born in a more priviledge environment. That's COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

i dont care about semantic way you try to define as to not mean what you say you mean


you can try to use defintions to dishonestly try to define things into existence say with god


does that mean god is real cause some idiot tried to argue contingency as to mean gg god


your argument here is just semantics


they arent botn inherntly better cause of their gender, they just born better cause of existence of societal forces




you think men are better then women, I was right you just have some societal reason instead of genetic one




you can go im not saying germans are superior to jews cause im to agree with it but that's just it is


and it would be no different only difference is the terminlogy used

Careful. You didn't read my words correctly. I said that Billionnaire do PROFIT from my ideology. Doing profit over leftism doesn't mean that they are doing right leftism. No. Instead like I told you, what they do is that they use my ideology -the leftist one - as a BAIT.

For liberal, leftist ideology is just another way of making business. So they are parasiting this ideology, by transforming it into a liberal one. This is why I constantly say to you that there exist liberal progressist.

Liberal progressist are liberal who - by the urge of profit or by to get voted in - are using leftist key points and depoliticizing them as much as possible in order to make them bankable on a larger audience or market and make them work with capitalism.

This is one of the reason why leftist kinda hate liberals. They are completely parasiting our ideologies.

it's all just belief


this shit.



one second



the biden or treadeau's of the world are entirely different idealogically and they are progressist liberal not leftists then in the next, their really just having no real stance on anything and are just coping your belief for means of profit


your belief being leftist so they are leftist in some way according to your stance here



it's just so incoherent is the actual issue



not to mention the logical holes here if it's just for profit lol why still stand by these progressive stances even when people boycott or make bad reviews on the product



like it just dont follow logically with what's known that these companies such as budlight,marvel or target would coutinue to push progressive takes if their motive was solely profit, in the face of constant backlash they would stop pushing such takes if their end goal was just money


clearly it's not, and there's a large effort in the mainstream to be leftist/progressive liberal or whatever the fuck you wanna call the set of beliefs associaled to what they push

You are confusing being oppressed and being inferior. What is the matter with you ????????

infernior means less then



if somebody opresses upon you


then they have more power socially,physically or otherwise



if you have more power, you are superior right not infernior



opressed people are inferior, it's just basic understanding of what words mean


does inferior have to be inherent no, that's why black people went from slaves to actual citzens


they had inferior status to white men then as time went on eventually got more and more rights lessening the gap, something even you agree with


im hoping unless you think black people have as bad as slaves used too



you have a very quick jump to racism even when it's not me making the claim but rather parapharsing your belief

You are already understanding the basis of the notion of economic capital.

it's a common sentiment that rich get richer and poor get poorer


you dont need to be a hardcore leftist to understand such a idea


just living as normal kinda can just inform you of this


ironic that leftists like cenk and hassan argue as you do despite being cases of neptoism themselves


hassan is literally cenk's nephew


people wanting to support their kin over others is a well known idea outside of hardcore leftist channels


ever heard of the phrase birds of a feather stick together or the idea of in group preference


you just gotta understand reality, to agree with the stance you relied too


it's not some deeply ideaological belief type thing, it's a well understood fact that america is a oligrachy

And that's why I think you have the potential to become a real leftist.... If only you weren't so obsessed by an incel and some far right ideologies focused on a non existing oppression on men, you would be doing great things.

everything said on women is based on facts existent today till now



you think seriously that men are expected to support and protect the women cause it's the men that are having it easy


if society was male centric then the common expectation would be women should help men not the other way around


not hard concepts to grasp


but ig it's all incel shit so ignore the reasoning provided for no good reason


you shame people as much as you accused nameless of doing which is quite hypocrital

 

[Zenos7]

Are you not understanding something ?

Well yeah actually that good chunk of french in that post lmao

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How will you get rid of Capitalism ??

He wont

 

[NAMELESS]

doubt they are making bank by parroting leftist idealogy


and what's funny


you told me they were liberals not leftists and such things were different


now you say these rich liberals are holding your stance ie a leftist one



you literally only saying shit when it's convenint to your idealogical beliefs






biden cant talk or walk without somebody helping him


im pretty sure anyone here is better then the literal dementia vitchim


and yet despite of that biden is richer then most here



are you saying he's skilled???



skilled at what, being so bad at his job???






arent you the same dude who thinks that women and black people are inherently lesser then white men


cause they privilged and the protected groups are not



your idealogy rests in assuming white men are just born better like wtf you on


your whole stance on issues focusing on looking at a opressor and opressed class of people







yea nameless's take is retarded



ig the minium wage people who cant afford housing or the poor homeless men just wanted to suffer cause reasons



it takes money to make money


so those who lack connections or some starting weath from inheritance, your kinda just screwed


it's not exactly fair



loads of people cant afford to leave abusive households as a result of proverty and raising cost of income

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i think risking your life for randoms is stupid



but if you see throwing your life away as a valid thing, you go for it man



im more on your side in regards to the issue of income classes



rich people arent generally getting their positions by merit




usa is more of a oligarchy then a meritocracy



ultimately a meritocracy system would solely favor those few who can perform the best in atheltics,science or whatever



it would harm a majourity of men so im opposed




ultimately society should benefit the majourity the most instead of some minorties



what's better


a system where 5 are happy or a system where millions are


does not mean miniorties should suffer just that they shouldt suceed at the expense of the overall popluation like how the rich benefit on the expense of poor men

Biden is senile right now. When younger he had the social skills to rise up the ladder.

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doubt they are making bank by parroting leftist idealogy


and what's funny


you told me they were liberals not leftists and such things were different


now you say these rich liberals are holding your stance ie a leftist one



you literally only saying shit when it's convenint to your idealogical beliefs






biden cant talk or walk without somebody helping him


im pretty sure anyone here is better then the literal dementia vitchim


and yet despite of that biden is richer then most here



are you saying he's skilled???



skilled at what, being so bad at his job???






arent you the same dude who thinks that women and black people are inherently lesser then white men


cause they privilged and the protected groups are not



your idealogy rests in assuming white men are just born better like wtf you on


your whole stance on issues focusing on looking at a opressor and opressed class of people







yea nameless's take is retarded



ig the minium wage people who cant afford housing or the poor homeless men just wanted to suffer cause reasons



it takes money to make money


so those who lack connections or some starting weath from inheritance, your kinda just screwed


it's not exactly fair



loads of people cant afford to leave abusive households as a result of proverty and raising cost of income

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i think risking your life for randoms is stupid



but if you see throwing your life away as a valid thing, you go for it man



im more on your side in regards to the issue of income classes



rich people arent generally getting their positions by merit




usa is more of a oligarchy then a meritocracy



ultimately a meritocracy system would solely favor those few who can perform the best in atheltics,science or whatever



it would harm a majourity of men so im opposed




ultimately society should benefit the majourity the most instead of some minorties



what's better


a system where 5 are happy or a system where millions are


does not mean miniorties should suffer just that they shouldt suceed at the expense of the overall popluation like how the rich benefit on the expense of poor men

Retarded?You do realize there is no real capitalism in most places that are third world. Economies are very regulated and taxation is heavy. Capitalism is eradicating poverty,look up statistics and educate yourself before calling someone retard,Mr.Incel.

 

[Okamakama]

same guy said he would get into a brawl with a dude to protect a random woman on the street
The irony is not lost on me

Men should protect women, bud. If I saw a woman, or anyone for that matter, being legitimately assaulted, I would step in. That's called being socially conscious.

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All of you are gay

w-Wai-wait tha-that cvano tdasbfSFASDBASDNM,.
*sucks dick*
You were right. Fuck.

 

[Herrera95]

Men should protect women, bud. If I saw a woman, or anyone for that matter, being legitimately assaulted, I would step in. That's called being socially conscious.

Depends. If the woman asks for help then yes I think we all should. Or at minimum call cops.

If she doesn't I couldn't give a fuck.

There are tons of couples that fight like crazy and are always together. People are mess up and it is no good to get involved in those cases.

There are people who die getting into couple fights like this just for the suppose victim to end up with the suppose aggressor.

 

[Okamakama]

Depends. If the woman asks for help then yes I think we all should. Or at minimum call cops.

If she doesn't I couldn't give a fuck.

There are tons of couples that fight like crazy and are always together. People are mess up and it is no good to get involved in those cases.

There are people who die getting into couple fights like this just for the suppose victim to end up with the suppose aggressor.

I think there is also a difference between laying down your life and stepping in. If I see someone being genuinely physically aggressive I will stand up and confront. This does not mean it has to result to violence. A lot of people actually stop when there is a crowd.

Just letting someone get beaten up though is cowardice.

 

[Herrera95]

I think there is also a difference between laying down your life and stepping in. If I see someone being genuinely physically aggressive I will stand up and confront. This does not mean it has to result to violence. A lot of people actually stop when there is a crowd.

Just letting someone get beaten up though is cowardice.

Ever watch Never Back Down first movie first minutes? When Jake Taylor(I hope this is how is typed his name) do something like that and get punched on face?

 

[Logiko]

your argument here is just semantics

No mate.
Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact
Those two sentence are completely different in meaning.

I think you don't even understand what you are talking about here.

they arent botn inherntly better cause of their gender, they just born better cause of existence of societal forces

Wrong, they are not born better AT ALL.

you think men are better then women, I was right you just have some societal reason instead of genetic one

No. Only you and fascist think that. What the hell are you even saying ? I don't think that men are born better Einstein. They re just born with more priviledge.
Oh boi

You don't understand the difference, do you ?

Your case is worst that I thought. You actually don't understand the difference between a system of value (being better) and a bagage of societal advantage given by your environement and situation (having more priviledges).

You actually don't know what a the word 'priviledge' mean do you ?...

you can go im not saying germans are superior to jews cause im to agree with it but that's just it is


and it would be no different only difference is the terminlogy used

Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh

their really just having no real stance on anything and are just coping your belief for means of profit

Well not exactly, they are not copying it. If they were to do that, it would be okay. They TRANSFORM it to fit a capitalist agenda. And since leftism is fighting against capitalism, then there is not much leftism left once liberal parasites our ideologies

your belief being leftist so they are leftist in some way according to your stance here

Like I said, no. As they completely transform the leftist ideology and only keep the bankable stuff. Bankable stuff are not leftist, they are universal. Being pro LGBTQ+ is not only a leftist thing and yet you see a far right gov of Israel using that to appeal to progressist populations.

That's what paraziting an ideology means. Its not leftism anymore. Its liberalism or worst.

it's just so incoherent is the actual issue

Its not if you cared to read what I write and trying to actually understand what I write instead of ignoring 90% of my argumentation.

I'm not doing that with you, so why are you doing that with me ?

they would stop pushing such takes if their end goal was just money

"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.

You might have missed it, but Marvel and Disney shows in general (aside from a few Gem here and there) have been really average slash bad the last few years. The reason is not their politics, the reason is their stories.

Look at the difference between Asokha and Andor for example. Two Disney shows, one not really good and really average and one amazing show.. and amazingly well recieved by the critics. Well spoilers: Andor is the WOKEST things you might have seen on any streaming plateform this days.

And still.. its amazingly good and well recieved.
Well the reason is simple: the story was amazingly good.

if you have more power, you are superior right not infernior

No you %#µ£# !!!

You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!

"Inferior and superior" are MORAL VALUES when put on subjects, they are not real. What the F is wrong with you ??

it's not some deeply ideaological belief type thing

And yet, on the other side, you are supporting what feeds this Oligarchy : patriarchy

I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can't go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.

everything said on women is based on facts existent today till now

No. I said facts based on knowledge we have. Actually I gave all of you two dozens of scientific articles explaining those facts.

You did not say facts, you only promoted a far right ideology about women and men. There are no facts behind that.

you think seriously that men are expected to support and protect the women cause it's the men that are having it easy

No

if society was male centric then the common expectation would be women should help men not the other way around

And what you don't see is that its already what is happenning.

In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..

I think its time for you to understand the concept of "MENTAL LOAD", the representation of patriarchy in women's every day life:

https://youtube.com/shorts/YWnj06vNrOk?si=B-lnxg6NDZsrwy9h

Well yeah actually that good chunk of french in that post lmao

Google is your friend mate

Capitalism is eradicating poverty

No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.

You are in complete deny. and full stockolm syndrom (even if such a thing doesn't really exist, its for the argument) :

You are praising the system that makes you suffer.

 

[Okamakama]

Ever watch Never Back Down first movie first minutes? When Jake Taylor(I hope this is how is typed his name) do something like that and get punched on face?

I get that - but why live your life in fear of violence? Why watch things and not get involved? Wouldn't you want to be helped when in dire need? Someone needs to take the first step.

 

[Herrera95]

I get that - but why live your life in fear of violence? Why watch things and not get involved? Wouldn't you want to be helped when in dire need? Someone needs to take the first step.

Like I said. If someone asks for help I will. If doesn't that I don't have to get involved.

 

[NAMELESS]

I get that - but why live your life in fear of violence? Why watch things and not get involved? Wouldn't you want to be helped when in dire need? Someone needs to take the first step.

Ask any cop and he will tell you that it is very common for people to get jumped while trying to stop fights,especially if its a couple fight.

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No mate.
Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact
Those two sentence are completely different in meaning.

I think you don't even understand what you are talking about here.



Wrong, they are not born better AT ALL.



No. Only you and fascist think that. What the hell are you even saying ? I don't think that men are born better Einstein. They re just born with more priviledge.
Oh boi

You don't understand the difference, do you ?

Your case is worst that I thought. You actually don't understand the difference between a system of value (being better) and a bagage of societal advantage given by your environement and situation (having more priviledges).

You actually don't know what a the word 'priviledge' mean do you ?...


Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh



Well not exactly, they are not copying it. If they were to do that, it would be okay. They TRANSFORM it to fit a capitalist agenda. And since leftism is fighting against capitalism, then there is not much leftism left once liberal parasites our ideologies



Like I said, no. As they completely transform the leftist ideology and only keep the bankable stuff. Bankable stuff are not leftist, they are universal. Being pro LGBTQ+ is not only a leftist thing and yet you see a far right gov of Israel using that to appeal to progressist populations.

That's what paraziting an ideology means. Its not leftism anymore. Its liberalism or worst.



Its not if you cared to read what I write and trying to actually understand what I write instead of ignoring 90% of my argumentation.

I'm not doing that with you, so why are you doing that with me ?



"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.

You might have missed it, but Marvel and Disney shows in general (aside from a few Gem here and there) have been really average slash bad the last few years. The reason is not their politics, the reason is their stories.

Look at the difference between Asokha and Andor for example. Two Disney shows, one not really good and really average and one amazing show.. and amazingly well recieved by the critics. Well spoilers: Andor is the WOKEST things you might have seen on any streaming plateform this days.

And still.. its amazingly good and well recieved.
Well the reason is simple: the story was amazingly good.



No you %#µ£# !!!

You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!

"Inferior and superior" are MORAL VALUES when put on subjects, they are not real. What the F is wrong with you ??



And yet, on the other side, you are supporting what feeds this Oligarchy : patriarchy

I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.



No. I said facts based on knowledge we have. Actually I gave all of you two dozens of scientific articles explaining those facts.

You did not say facts, you only promoted a far right ideology about women and men. There are no facts behind that.


No



And what you don't see is that its already what is happenning.

In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..

I think its time for you to understand the concept of "MENTAL LOAD", the representation of patriarchy in women's every day life:

https://youtube.com/shorts/YWnj06vNrOk?si=B-lnxg6NDZsrwy9h

Google is your friend mate



No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.

You are in complete deny. and full stockolm syndrom (even if such a thing doesn't really exist, its for the argument) :

You are praising the system that makes you suffer.

Your socialist state of France still explores 14 nations in Africa. You literally live off the misery of others nations,hypocritical parasite. I already posted the scriptures here and explained why people like you are a hell spawn.

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Oh but that's completely correct. Billionnaires DO profit of my ideology.. but the thing you are forgetting to check... is that

The thing you are forgetting to notice, is that the one between me and you who is defending the way of life of Billionnaires.. is not me..

Its you.



You mean, meritocracy ? The system you are defending right now ? Yes, indeed. It prevent people from climbing the ladders of success.



Are you saying that there are people born superior and inferior here ?



Indeed, there are very rare exceptions where this is the case, but those people will most likely not become Billionaires, but scientists or artists.

Funny thing is.. even when such people exist, a natural gift is not enough for success.

So this argument is simply irrelevant.


No, not naturally.
If natural gift was enough to create enormous amounts of wealth, and if society was really equal to give a chance for all to shine... you wouldn't just see a few Billionaires, but millions and millions...

In your parrallel world where we human can surpass even creation and create success out of nothingness and our own will, you are completely underestimating the potential genius in humanity itself and crediting it only to a handfull of people.

We ALL have the potential to create enormous amounts of wealth in specific conditions.



Wait, you are telling me that since capitalism exist (since around the XVIIe century following some theories or since the end of the middle age following others) it has been systematically eradicating poverty all over the globe ?

Wait, so why is there still hardcore poverty then ?

Are you kissing your mother with this mouth ?

Do you really believe that lie ? Are you really that blind that you can't even see the level of poverty in your own country ? In the US ? In Europe ? In Africa ? Do you actually believe that capitalism is just "that slow".. and that its must "take time" ?

Are you really that naive ?


OMG.. You are completely missing the point...

Its not capitalism that allows me to heal in peace mate. That's what you are completely missunderstanding.
Its the socialist reforms FIGHTING capitalism that are allowing me to do that. Why do you think that the US don't have Health care but we do in France ? Its not the right and its not capitalism that allowed those progress.

Its the F*cking LEFT who arrived in power and made thing change. Its the fight AGAINST capitalism.



Indeed. Because people like you are telling them not to hope for anything. And especially to hate those like me who are trying to give them hope.



Wait .. so I'm right now telling you that we - the left - wants to fight and end capitalism and the rich.. but for you my thinking is somehow hegemonic because of media and billionaries think the same ?

Dude.. Are you that naive that you can't see the paradoxe here ?

For real ? No really !! ... Check back that sentence again.. think for with your reason and not your fears for once !

You are telling me that depise the fact that I tell you that I want to end capitalism and the rich, I think like a Billionaire ?

Are you freaking ok ?

Wait, how can someone insult anyone without saying any insults in any ways ?



I'm finally touching the fourth dimension of the brain of a conservatist. I'm finally touching the core contradictions of a defender of capitalism..

Somehow.. i'm the one who is hateful, antihuman rights, a clown, a retard, a stupid leftist (note the insults).. making your replying to each one of my post with another one and yet....

You keep avoiding replying to all my questions




Its seems that you are not finished running from your fears...

I already answered most of your shit,you are just too dumb,hypocritical and obtuse.
1-I'm not defending billionaires. I'm defending the right of private property and accumulation of wealth.
2-Meritocracy is a thing. You might not like it because you are worthless and you don't like to work,but it is a thing. The market rewards those that offer value.
3-People have different skillsets and some are just off the charts. People get rich by working,saving and winning the game of free market.
4-Brazil is poor,because this is a socialist economy and country disguised as a free one. Lets not pretend Europe and the US don't play their cards to keep nations like these developing for ever. Your country still has colonies for example.
5-You are a nasty,bitch. Insults aren't only swear words,you clown. A bastard like you should not be mentioning anyone's mother.
6-I keep replying to your shit,because its entertaining to bait you. Its like giving candy to chimps in a zoo. We all know you have no one else to talk to and keep seeking validation here,because you are a lonely loser.
"Muh Carrot and Communism"

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My dear .. I'm something far scarier for you than just a communist.

I'm a reflection of your potential for change.

To me you are a eunuch. I don't see you as a fellow man. How can one be unable to feed themselves,dream of a sugar daddy/pimp gov to turn your fellow countrymen into slaves,be unhealthy and lonely and still have the audacity to think you are something else other than a wortless parasite? I'm not a masochist or sodomite. I would rather die then become useless and immoral as you. I pity the likes of you.

 

[Bob74h]

You are not superior because you have more power, only a fascist think that way !!

having more finnincial or social superiority does not equate to moral superiority



two different things


only a dipshit or someone dishonest would ever use superiority in one context ignoring all others



rich people are finnincially superior then me



that in no way means they intellectually or physically superior to me

Saying "some human are superior than others" is fascist
And Saying "Some human are born in more priviledge" is a sociological fact

same difference cause societal or social superiority is still superiority


racial supremacy is not the only form of supremacy



that's the flaw in your reasoning, asssuming that superiority has to be inherently racial




it lacks nuace cause it's formed by basis of idealogical reasons



x is right cause it's in the dogma of leftism, is the foundation of the reason anything is post hawk justifying that belief



valid reasons are based in some obeservable reality or commonly understood fact



if your gonna say but conservatives go based on their dogma too man



too people doing something wrong, does not make it okay



if two groups murder innocents, is murder now ok??

Yes it would be, 'cause you would be saying some fascist stuff... duh

so saying women (germans) are opressed by men (jews)


but in reality, the germans (women) are better but it's that jewish (patriarchy) keeping them down


so we gotta tear those nasty jew goverments(men goverments) to stop their evil opression



it's the same shit dude



only differnce is the parties spoken upon



the german nazi of old uses the same logic as the femminists



using alleged vitchim status as a means to shame the opposition and to use that status of pity as means for power



you act like vitchim, but are the predator luring them in with pity


ohh look at poor german (women) feel sorry for them



maybe give them more power




your group is more nazi like then right wingers or me but somehow im facist.



it's optics to make you look better no different to christan fundamentlists of old shaming everything as satanist or communist



it's just now the left rules so instead of satan evil as a means of shaming, you use hitler as the new evil boogeyman to enforce ypur moral code




only difference now verus the nazi german days



is the internet existing and just laughing at the leftist pundits in media



if not for the internet, all society would be under your group's control hence the efforts to censor the internet

2-Meritocracy is a thing. You might not like it because you are worthless and you don't like to work,but it is a thing. The market rewards those that offer value.

the problem is that most people arent going to have insane value


not everyone can be top tier scientists or athletes as example



most are going just exist as average dudes



ideally the system should work to help the majourity not a small group of a few greats and even then


within a couple generations weath passes on from parent to child


and the once merit based system falls apart cause im just better then you cause my grandfather was smarter or stronger then yours


resulting in a clear, upper class people born with the money and lower class born with nothing

I'm not the one who needs to see reality. You can go and say that there is an oligarchy and completely ignore why it is here in the first place.

it's not there of a male centered patriachy lol


it's a clear pattern of parent to child, weath transfer



loads of people are rich solely cause of the sucess of their parents


look at andrew tate, the self made top g



it turns out, his father was a world renouned chess champion and cia operertive

https://www.chessgames.com/player/emory_a_tate.html


https://www.chessgames.com/player/emory_a_tate.html


quite a ironic sitlaution considering his potrayal of a self made everyman who works for his shit unlike brokies




everyone who says their self made is bull shitting

In society, its the women who have the mental load burden, not men. While men are indeed expected to provide in a patriarcal society (because it affects men too), women are expected to do everything else. Meaning that not only women are expected to live their lives and also have a job, but to provide also for EVERYTHING ELSE on top of that (taking care of the kids, keeping the house clean, doing chores, shopping for the family etc..

back breaking labor


having to constantly be stoic and hold a certain perception of yourself to appear manly


never allowed to open up


that's less of a mental load then chores??



yea sure



suicide rates are higher among men, so that's just bs



men have more stress hence the higher suicdiality

"The marvels" is the first movie to be a clear financial failure for Marvel. So they had no reason to stop until now.
But what you think is a failure for political reason is not. "The Marvels" was not ignored by the public because "its too woke" (its not even close to woke) it was ignored by the movie because it seems to be a BAD STORY.

dude no company gonna argue with randoms on twitter and fight desantis's potitical bills relating transgenderism in school if they dont personally buy into the poltics themselves



if it's just a money game then they would side with the right wing as it's more popluar in the internet sphere but because their rich buddies are all liberals



they also gotta be




dude, they fucking hired some random femminst advocate to direct a star wars movie, you think they did that cause the average joe gonna flock in droves to see it cause a femminst is involved


lol ofc not, it's done cause disney as a company holds left wing potical values



you just dislike that cause you wanna be some robin hood fight versus the system helping some opresssed people



it's some roleplay persona type shit, it's literally not how you come off to literally anybody



that's how you think you are but it's not consistent with reality

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No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.

correct take



litterally only argue on behalf of this issue cauae it's the onnly one, you are able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt



if the system worked to help poor people






white,black or otherwise




kinda flaw in poltics is that even if leftist is right



people too deep into it deny it solely cause the bad team did the claim same goes for right wingers



i cant accept that point, a nazi or commie said it



even if the person you think is a commie or nazi said something, that does not inherntly make them wrong



poverty and homelessness would not be a issue and yet it's a large one

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No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.

correct take



litterally only argue on behalf of this issue cauae it's the onnly one, you are able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt



if the system worked to help poor people






white,black or otherwise




kinda flaw in poltics is that even if leftist is right



people too deep into it deny it solely cause the bad team did the claim same goes for right wingers



i cant accept that point, a nazi or commie said it



even if the person you think is a commie or nazi said something, that does not inherntly make them wrong

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No it did not. If that was the case you wouldn't live in a country where 62 million persons are living in poverty.

correct take



litterally only argue on behalf of this issue cauae it's the onnly one, you are able to prove beyond shadow of a doubt



if the system worked to help poor people






white,black or otherwise




kinda flaw in poltics is that even if leftist is right



people too deep into it deny it solely cause the bad team did the claim same goes for right wingers



i cant accept that point, a nazi or commie said it



even if the person you think is a commie or nazi said something, that does not inherntly make them wrong