Controversial General Political Discussion

[Bisoromi Bear]

Come on dude Kink shaming is not cool
@Rej I'm not into feet but I respect your choice of anime, truly a masterpiece and (at least for me) Anime of the year :cheers:

I will be a proud kinkphobe until I die:cheers::cheers:

 

[Zenos7]

Therefore the ideas that we should only select the one that are not presenting any kind of "conditions" and blaming opposite choices on immorality is eugenistic.

Aborting fetuses is not the same as selective breeding. Selective breeding is about prohibiting people to reproduce if they have undesirable traits.

In his many statements about this topic he literally said the peeps should try again. Thats not selective breeding at all
Once again you are just talking out of your ass

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You are entitled to your value system, I do not have the same. (And when I say experimenting on someone, I mean a living someone, not just dead people)

This isnt about my values. I would love if we didnt need to experiment on animals or people to make progress in medicine, but thats simply impossible.

 

[NAMELESS]

Go to a 3rd World Country first before talking shit.

Country comparison: Brazil / United States (worlddata.info)

Brazil vs USA

Unemployment rate: 9.5 % vs 3.6 %

Inflation rate: 9.28 % vs 8.00 %

Cost of Living: 49.78 % vs 100.00 %

Commercial taxes and contributions: 65.10 % vs 36.60 %

Average income: 8,140 US$ vs 76,770 US$

USA has near 1/3 of unemployement. Less inflation. Althought cost of living is the double of Brazil the average income is around 9,5x. And way less taxes (current governament is increasing those taxes absurdly lately in Brazil).

Let's see Quality of Life

Political stability: 50 vs 67

Civil rights: 42 vs 83

Health: 56 vs 71

Climate: 56 vs 66

Cost of Living: 37 vs 42

Popularity: 40 vs 87

Now I ask you what is your idea of 1st World Country that USA doesn't fit?

Why take seriously what trolls say though?

 

[Logiko]

In his many statements about this topic he literally said the peeps should try again.

Its not the abortion that his selective, its his statement and his vision.

This isnt about my values. I would love if we didnt need to experiment on animals or people to make progress in medicine, but thats simply impossible.

Did you read my post ?

 

[Herrera95]

The question is, do we want a civil wars ? And, until what point can we old the belief system that a civil war is preferable than welcoming illegal immigrants ?

Sometimes wars are just necessary like the independence war and the previous civil war. Looks like is not only Texas but half USA now is in favor of closing the borders.

 

[Logiko]

Sometimes wars are just necessary like the independence war and the previous civil war. Looks like is not only Texas but half USA now is in favor of closing the borders.

Well, if you prefer wars than to be a decent human being.. go for it

 

[Herrera95]

Well, if you prefer wars than to be a decent human being.. go for it

If you prefer being a colony it's up to you

 

[Logiko]

If you prefer being a colony it's up to you

My country is a colonizer, I don't think I have to worry about being a colony

 

[Herrera95]

My country is a colonizer, I don't think I have to worry about being a colony

Idk what your country is but you defend Hamas going into war against Israel. Just a hypocrite

 

[Logiko]

Idk what your country is but you defend Hamas going into war against Israel. Just a hypocrite

I defend the actions of resistance against Israel that is colonizing and oppressing Palestinians, not specifically what Hamas does mate. But I can't ask a genocide denyer to understand the defense of any kind of actions of resistance

 

[Herrera95]

I defend the actions of resistance against Israel that is colonizing and oppressing Palestinians, not specifically what Hamas does mate. But I can't ask a genocide denyer to understand the defense of any kind of actions of resistance

Then you will have to call the international court a genocide denier too since they denied all allegations of South Africa.

 

[Logiko]

Then you will have to call the international court a genocide denier too since they denied all allegations of South Africa.

Actually they didn't

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1227078791/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-south-africa

 

[Zenos7]

Its not the abortion that his selective, its his statement and his vision.

Selective abortion =/= selective breeding my dude

 

[Logiko]

Selective abortion =/= selective breeding my dude

Again, not my claim. What is eugenic is not the act of abortion (in this case), is the act of wanting to select through abortion.

Also, eugenism is not one method, its a set of beliefs and practices to select specific type of genetic material over others. Forced abortion is one of them.

 

[Zenos7]

Again, not my claim. What is eugenic is not the act of abortion (in this case), is the act of wanting to select through abortion.

No, eugenics is the act of selective breeding, i.e. only allowing people with favorable heritable traits to reproduce.

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Forced abortion is one of them.

so not what dawkins was saying, gotcha

 

[Herrera95]

Actually they didn't

https://www.npr.org/2024/01/26/1227078791/icj-israel-genocide-gaza-palestinians-south-africa

They did.

They didn't accused Israel of doing a genocide and did not asked them to stop doing anything unlike with Russia.

 

[NAMELESS]

thoughts?

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Well, if you prefer wars than to be a decent human being.. go for it

The Africans should go to war with France to stop colonialism.

 

[Herrera95]

sure

but I like using this site at work. And I don’t want people at work thinking I’m some sort of weirdo.

Then change your own avy?

 

[Monkey D Theories]

Then change your own avy?

My avy is from The Sandman

Which is a pretty famous comic.

 

[Logiko]

No, eugenics is the act of selective breeding, i.e. only allowing people with favorable heritable traits to reproduce.

"Negative eugenism"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eugenics

Section "Meaning and types", last pragraph, third sentence.

"Negative eugenics aimed to eliminate, through sterilization or segregation, those deemed physically, mentally, or morally "undesirable". This includes abortions, sterilization, and other methods of family planning."

so not what dawkins was saying, gotcha

Dawkins called "immoral" the act of carrying on the pregnancy of child with Down syndrom. This was therefore an eugenistic claim.

They did.

They didn't accused Israel of doing a genocide and did not asked them to stop doing anything unlike with Russia.

Actually yes they did.
What they did is aknowledging the plausibility of an act of genocide.
They also warned Israel not to commit more harm on Palestinian civilians and asked for a report on this matter from Israel on this subject regarding their actions. If they don't comply, the actions of Israel will therefore be considerer Genocide. This was what we called "diplomacy".

If Israel continue, their gov will be considered guilty of crimes against humanity.

The Africans should go to war with France to stop colonialism.

Well, France is not really in control anymore. What is in control now are the Billionaires pomping up all the ressources of Africa. It's against them that native needs to rebel against.