Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1106 Spoilers Discussion

Will Kizaru use awakening in the next Chapters?


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False though... I don't believe Kata was superior to Boundman in terms of raw power.
He was still hard to hit.
In fact, he never matched it with his attacks.

He was the biggest 1v1 obstacle to surpass, but the difference is Doflamingo was a 2v1 effort. 1 Round of Law & 2 Rounds of Boundman did that job.
There is always that room with Doflamingo & Kaidou because they were brought down by team work.


Agreed.
Kizaru likely isn't stronger than Nika at this point, and he will be defeated.

Let's wait and see though. Doflamingo/Katakuri seem like blue prints for Kaidou/Kizaru.

They bring Trebol as relevant. Big Mom did more than Trebol yet people dont bring her to state that Luffy fought 2 Yonkos aka therefore he is 2 times Yonko level which we know it is pathetic to think that.
 
Yes, it's mainly you because currently, I'm mainly arguing with you.

Most admiral fans in this forum dislike Lu-ffy and/or the Nika lore.

The same thing applies to most members of the "Zoro agenda" in this forum.

I have already called you "MC haters" and "MC downplayers" multiple times because that's clearly what most of you are.

If you don't enjoy the main character, drop the series and move on.

Or at least, stop pretending like you care about the narrative when the narrative is what you hate and despise about the serires.
Clips of the admirals on Youtube are what got me into One Piece originally. I just want a good set of antagonists. A good hero is nothing without a good villain.
 
What the hell are you talking about nobody cares about the story? Dude it’s not agenda to say the story is vastly different than it used to be because oda has started to make Nika a focal point for everything.

Look back at east blue where every fight Nika got assistance from the straw hats to win.

Look back at the story where the straw hats would always be the one to pick up any of Luffys slack. In Alabasta, Nika was gone for dozens of chapters and the straw hats continued to function on their own. In ennies lobby against Lucci, Usopp was the reason Nika was able to stand up and actually win. In Thriller Bark, after Nika got duped by Moriah the straw hats held the fort until he could return.

Back then the straw hats had secondary focus and helped Nika. Now? The straw hats have been demoted to basically what the Z fighters turned into in the androids saga.
Nika stans don't care, they genuinely wish Luffy would be the only character in the series. I clown on swordbros and candies but I'm being reminded why I used to think not that long ago that luffy fandom was the worst overall
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I think it's that they just don't enjoy the series anymore, but find reasons to keep reading until the important questions are answered via agendas and powerscaling, which is really just coming up with their own battle shonen over the top of it. Sunk cost fallacy - just stop reading!
Didn't you say earlier that you wanted Blackbeard to take away Lu ffy's fruit? It seems you're not that happy with the development either.
 
Clips of the admirals on Youtube are what got me into One Piece originally. I just want a good set of antagonists. A good hero is nothing without a good villain.
I never said I hated the admirals. I love Kizaru and the characterization he is having during this arc. I loved Fujitora in Dressrosa and how we were introduced to moral justice. The list is long. Akainu has been one of the greatest antagonists in this series, so props up to him.

It's just, we have a group of people over here who has a toxic love of the admirals and who puts them at the same level than the yonko, at the same level than the main character of this story even. This same group of people hates the main character and would rather see the admirals win than the main character win.

They go and spam nonsense like "Luffy lost against Kizaru" or "Luffy will fight Kizaru and not Saturn this arc".

The problem is not loving the admirals, the problem has always been having this toxic view and love for them.
 
ive actually been saying this for a pretty long time. not specifically about luff y but about people that seem to hate the series but still show up for every chapter. its rather odd. I wouldn't waste my time with something I don't like, but maybe thats just me.
That's the thing about OP that makes it so successful with huge amounts of concurrent readers. No matter what, you absolutely have to find out what the one piece is and what the will of d is once you read or watch it. Hopefully you fall in love with the story a long the way, but if you don't or if you get sick of it after reading for a decade or more, I bet it'd feel like torturing yourself lol
 
Nika stans don't care, they genuinely wish Nika would be the only character in the series. I clown on swordbros and candies but I'm being reminded why I used to think not that long ago that Nika fandom was the worst overall
It’s wild. Like I get this story’s not like fairy tail where the side characters are focal, but it’s been turning more and more into Naruto where they just don’t matter outside of reacting to the protagonist.

And saying that makes it a worse manga is a valid critique for some because a lot of readers enjoyed the cooperative aspect of the story.

I said it once and I’ll say it again, Marinefords success is the reason the manga has changed so much.
 
What the hell are you talking about nobody cares about the story? Dude it’s not agenda to say the story is vastly different than it used to be because oda has started to make Nika a focal point for everything.

Look back at east blue where every fight Nika got assistance from the straw hats to win.

Look back at the story where the straw hats would always be the one to pick up any of Luffys slack. In Alabasta, Nika was gone for dozens of chapters and the straw hats continued to function on their own. In ennies lobby against Lucci, Usopp was the reason Nika was able to stand up and actually win. In Thriller Bark, after Nika got duped by Moriah the straw hats held the fort until he could return.

Back then the straw hats had secondary focus and helped Nika. Now? The straw hats have been demoted to basically what the Z fighters turned into in the androids saga.

Luffy got stronger over the course of the story and yes his subordinates became less likely to be able to help him as his opponents became more competent.

How exactly do you expect Ussop or Nami to help him against Kizaru? Or would you end up complaining about how Kizaru is getting stalled by Nami and Ussop? You have to be realistic about your expectations. We as fans also expect the same from Luffy to live up to his Yonko status. If he's constantly being helped by his subordinates and he isn't showing enough competence then there's a problem. This is a fight in which very few people can help him.

Also to point out just recently Luffy had to be helped. Luffy is still struggling at the end of the day.
 
No he doesn't. When did Nika ever navigate on his own? When did Nika do his own swordsmanship? When did he start engineering things? These are all just excuses.


Everybody on this forum knows nobody cares about the story. The only reason people come here to chat is for agenda's and powerscaling as usual. I have rarely seen anyone here talk about the story. Only now suddenly it's important?

We're not that stupid. Admiral fans and Zoro fans have been eagerly waiting for Nika to fail. That's been the discussion for the past couple of weeks. Same goes for Zoro.
We now come off wano and the man talking about when last we see Zoro swordsmanship or Ussop lies LMAO.
This in arc where the MC not in it for 17 chapters and some angry that MC getting most screen time which he always does .
The reasons some people coming up with funny because you know for certain on this forum it agenda's and powerscaling aspect first everything miles below .
 
It’s wild. Like I get this story’s not like fairy tail where the side characters are focal, but it’s been turning more and more into Naruto where they just don’t matter outside of reacting to the protagonist.

And saying that makes it a worse manga is a valid critique for some because a lot of readers enjoyed the cooperative aspect of the story.

I said it once and I’ll say it again, Marinefords success is the reason the manga has changed so much.
Before being an admiral stan I was primarly reading the series for the straw hats & their adventure while enjoying the worldbuilding . but then i realized the author didn't care about them anymore, so why should I? I only became a full blown powerscaler during Wano, a decade after I started the series.
 
I think it's that they just don't enjoy the series anymore, but find reasons to keep reading until the important questions are answered via agendas and powerscaling, which is really just coming up with their own battle shonen over the top of it. Sunk cost fallacy - just stop reading!
This is exactly what it is.
 

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Dude I still love one piece, I love the chapters, and I’ve loved egghead.

Insulting the MC =/= not liking the story.
I don't think he was talking about you, there are people that are reasonable that dislike certain parts of the story and I think you're generally reasonable, but there are a number of posters here that are VEHEMENT haters on pretty much everything about the manga when their favorite isnt on page. And its like bro why are you still reading then.
 
Before being an admiral stan I was primarly reading the series for the straw hats & their adventure while enjoying the worldbuilding . but then i realized the author didn't care about them anymore, so why should I? I only became a full blown powerscaler during Wano, a decade after I started the series.
Wano was the worst arc in OP history. There’s no comparison.
 
I don't think he was talking about you, there are people that are reasonable that dislike certain parts of the story and I think you're generally reasonable, but there are a number of posters here that are VEHEMENT haters on pretty much everything about the manga when their favorite isnt on page. And its like bro why are you still reading then.
Like their idol, they are simply cogs in the machine, their love for the story is unclear and they are conflicted. They don't know whether to keep reading or not.
 
It’s wild. Like I get this story’s not like fairy tail where the side characters are focal, but it’s been turning more and more into Naruto where they just don’t matter outside of reacting to the protagonist.

And saying that makes it a worse manga is a valid critique for some because a lot of readers enjoyed the cooperative aspect of the story.

I said it once and I’ll say it again, Marinefords success is the reason the manga has changed so much.
All true. A lot of the strawhats have been on ice all post-timeskip. But they're going to have to start concluding their arcs. That's what I liked about the Saul chapter, it set up Robin's conclusion as a character. I at least expect something for all of them. Chopper hasn't been a character in like 15 years but Oda has to have something for even him.
 
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