Future Events Luffy vs Saturn or Luffy vs Kizaru Round 2 which do you think is most likely to happen at this point?

[Sir Yasheen]

Round 2 Luffy hasn’t shown a single care about Saturn this whole arc.

Saturn is Kumas fight.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Perfect time to get this thread out there.

We are almost certainly at the climax of this arc at this point, and Luffy is back in the swing of it. But there's been a lot of back and forth over what's happening next. Figured this thread would be good to condense that.

Or

Make your arguments!

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I agree with the Luffy fandom that narratively Luffy should fight Saturn. Even if Luffy doesn't really care about Saturn, Saturn HATES Joy Boy clearly, and wants Luffy dead. Once Luffy realizes Saturn attacked Vegapunk, Luffy's focus will shift to Saturn, and Kizaru will be help up by other forces.

I expect Saturn to use his eye hax again, because there's no reason for him not to, to paralyze a lot of people, leaving Luffy to deal with Saturn and Kizaru alone, until Sanji and Bonney are able to resist. Now that Bonney has seen Nika, I believe she'll be able to resist Saturn's powers.

Bonney needs to get one good Nika punch in on Saturn, and I think S-Snake will get something there as well, considering Boa intrinsically hates Celestial Dragons, and seeing Luffy get attacked by one would trigger S-Snake. Keep in mind Boa lived in the Holy Land, and is a Warlord, she should know who the Gorosei are, and since S-Snake is controlled by them, she definitely should.

Kuma might keep moving if Saturn and Bonney are fighting, too.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Luffy vs Kizaru>>>>>

 

[MonsterKaido]

I am not sure. Luffy can fight both but I am not sure if he can beat both at same time. Bonney vs saturn is also a possibility.

 

[Extravlad]

Laturn stans about to take the fattest L in history in the next chapters

He's a nika-Kuma/Iron Giant VICTIM

Also imagine still talking about Zoro vs Kizaru as if we were still at the beginning of the arc where your delusions still had a slight chance of happening

Zoro is currently stuck with LUCCI

 

[Hezen]

Luffy already proved multiple times he can knock Kizaru on his ass anytime he wants to

If that was the case, he would've never stated Kizaru was "very strong" and we see Kizari block numerous G5 attacks while onguard so Luffy clearly can't knock him down whenever he wants seeing as the only times he did were when Kizaru was offguard

 

[Redboy776]

Laturn stans about to take the fattest L in history in the next chapters

He's a nika-Kuma/Iron Giant VICTIM

Also imagine still talking about Zoro vs Kizaru as if we were still at the beginning of the arc where your delusions still had a slight chance of happening

Zoro is currently stuck with LUCCI

Kizaru isnt faring better, I say he had it worst, cant one shot sentomaru & atlas, franky and sanji, and once again divine departed by nika casual punch that lucci was matching plus no awakening in sign.

 

[Extravlad]

Kizaru isnt faring better, I say he had it worst, cant one shot sentomaru & atlas, franky and sanji, and once again divine departed by nika casual punch that lucci was matching plus no awakening in sign.

Kizaru isnt fighting Zoro in this arc. Let it go man.

 

[Reborn]

Let's go with this scenario

I am fine with this scenario because I am expecting zoro to atleast clash with kiz here.

No way in an arc like this oda won't bring Zoro against kiz after the humiliation zoro suffered by the legs of Kiz at Sabody

 

[Extravlad]

I am fine with this scenario because I am expecting zoro to atleast clash with kiz here.

No way in an arc like this oda won't bring Zoro against kiz after the humiliation zoro suffered by the legs of Kiz at Sabody

He suffered nothing
You all are gaslighting yourselves again

For Oda the narrative was that Luffy failed to protect his crew from Kizaru

Now that Kizaru shot one laser at Zoro

More cope and delusion ... are we back at pre-Egghead war time?

 

[Dragon777]

In some fashion, both.

I'll post one image instead.

Thread/

 

[Reborn]

He suffered nothing
You all are gaslighting yourselves again

For Oda the narrative was that Luffy failed to protect his crew from Kizaru

Now that Kizaru shot one laser at Zoro

More cope and delusion ... are we back at pre-Egghead war time?

Yes narrative was Luffy failed to protect the crew and this time he will be able to protect


But Zoro did suffer the humiliation. He was taken apart by Kiz who literally went after zoro before kuma send him flying.


Even at egghead, you can see kiz using light swords..

 

[Nadel]

Zoro vs Kizaru, Narratively it is the most appropriate, Zoro has one of the highest DPS in Op

 

[Redboy776]

Kizaru isnt fighting Zoro in this arc. Let it go man.

I dont look forward to them fightning either but if it happen nothing short of a 1 shot will be satisfying, his AP suck and movesets are mid, lucci has even better performance so far. kizaru isnt pushing zoro at all with what I have seen.

 

[Extravlad]

I dont look forward to them fightning either but if it happen nothing short of a 1 shot will be satisfying, his AP suck and movesets are mid, lucci has even better performance so far. kizaru isnt pushing zoro at all with what I have seen.

Yea you're a troll. Not bothering with you anymore

 

[Redboy776]

Yea you're a troll. Not bothering with you anymore

Didnt take long for you to admit defeat. zoro clear kizaru.

 

[Nadel]

Didnt take long for you to admit defeat. zoro clear kizaru.

Zoro already cut the hybrid Kaido and left him a scar,...Zoro would have no problem cutting Kizaru

 

[Reborn]

Zoro already cut the hybrid Kaido and left him a scar,...Zoro would have no problem cutting Kizaru

Let's be real

Zoro ain't having easy time in cutting kiz.

He and luffy always had difficult fights

 

[MarineHQ]

The issue with Zoro vs Kizaru is that at no point did the story make Zoro's loss at Shabondy seem like a loss that Zoro needs to get revenge for. In fact it was the opossite. Kizaru acknowledged that Zoro was exhausted before he arrived, there is no disrespect or humiliation going on here.

It was Luffy who stated that they need to surpass Kizaru, Kuma and Sentoumaru after their loss to them. The only guy among those three that's still an enemy and coincidentally the strongest out of the three is Kizaru.

And the first second Luffy met Kizaru he immediately brought up that they have indeed grown meaning Oda didn't forget about the panel above, the proving that they surpassed Kizaru and co part I mean.

It is totally alright to want Zoro to fight Kizaru for hype purposes but to say there is any narrative built up for this matchup is just not true tbh.

Kizaru using his blade is as much confirmation that he fights Zoro as it is that he fights Shanks or any other swordsman for that matter. The fact that he casually uses it against pretty much everyone actually isn't good because it doesn't seem the sword is his main fighting style.

Just my two cents

 

[Redboy776]

I am fine with this scenario because I am expecting zoro to atleast clash with kiz here.

No way in an arc like this oda won't bring Zoro against kiz after the humiliation zoro suffered by the legs of Kiz at Sabody

Zoro gauntlet in egghead already clean and unflawed. island sized warn eddy cutting, overpower yc1 awakened kaku, fought top tier shawk the strongest seraphim (dodged blackhole that negged law, and island cutting), top tier awakened lucci CPO leader(traded hands with NIKA who can casualy shake islands and outperformed kizaru 3 times). if he fight kizaru on top and easily dominate, then arc will be even better for zoro.