Controversial General Political Discussion

[NAMELESS]

I mean sure, but they won’t prey on victims who might be stronger.

yeah,but no women is safe just because she is bulky.

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My bunny I know you hate me but I never said this

Liar. I wish i still had those screenshots.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It’s not, your only argument for everyone and their dogs carrying a gun is self-defence. But violence causes violence, and causing more violence is not the solution to violence.

Citizens of safe countries have 0 reasons to carry a gun.

Not defending yourself against violence is violence too.

 

[Natalija]

You know of any safe countries without crime?

There’s no country with 0 crime, but there’s incredibly safe countries with gun control, and they don’t have many issues apart from special cases.

 

[Ravagerblade]

It’s not, your only argument for everyone and their dogs carrying a gun is self-defence. But violence causes violence, and causing more violence is not the solution to violence.

Citizens of safe countries have 0 reasons to carry a gun.

It's more than just self-defense, peace of mind, gun range/sports just to name a few.
Getting rid of guns will not rid the violence, only a idiot thinks this.

 

[Natalija]

Not defending yourself against violence is violence too.

Lmao no, that’s not within the definition of the word 😂

 

[NAMELESS]

It’s not, your only argument for everyone and their dogs carrying a gun is self-defence. But violence causes violence, and causing more violence is not the solution to violence.

Citizens of safe countries have 0 reasons to carry a gun.

Cops literally fight violence with guns. Are they the cause of criminality?No. There is no such thing as safe place,just places with lower crime rates. People are bad and shit happens everywhere. A man can beat another man. A woman can't. Neither can beat an armed indiviudal if unarmed. Guns are necessary. The right of self defense is a human right.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Cops literally fight violence with guns. Are they the cause of criminality?No. There is no such thing as safe place,just places with lower crime rates. People are bad and shit happens everywhere. A man can beat another man. A woman can't. Neither can beat an armed indiviudal if unarmed. Guns are necessary. The right of self defense is a human right.

Guns are the great equalizer for women against a man.

 

[NAMELESS]

It's more than just self-defense, peace of mind, gun range/sports just to name a few.
Getting rid of guns will not rid the violence, only a idiot thinks this.

Insurrectional power,hunting and force multiplier in case of war. Japan didn't want to invade the US because of all the civillians armed.

 

[Natalija]

It's more than just self-defense, peace of mind, gun range/sports just to name a few.
Getting rid of guns will not rid the violence, only a idiot thinks this.

I mean you’re a fool if you think it won’t greatly reduce it. It’s not without reason that the US has particularly high crime rates in comparison to other first world places.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Insurrectional power,hunting and force multiplier in case of war. Japan didn't want to invade the US because of all the civillians armed.

Great points as well.

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I mean you’re a fool if you think it won’t greatly reduce it. It’s not without reason that the US has particularly high crime rates in comparison to other first world places.

The fool calling another a fool.
Pot meet kettle.

 

[NAMELESS]

Guns are the great equalizer for women against a man.

Yes,they are. But none are beating an armed thug if they don't a have gun too. I'm not talking about firearms only. Don't forget all kinds of blunt and cutting objects can and are used as weapons.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

There’s no country with 0 crime, but there’s incredibly safe countries with gun control, and they don’t have many issues apart from special cases.

And there are safe countries with low gun control and barely any shootings. And there are countries with strict gun control but lots of violent crime.
The connection guns=violence is not really a thing. I used to be very anti gun before I did my research. There's a lot of bias among Europeans and not nearly enough education on the topic

I mean you’re a fool if you think it won’t greatly reduce it. It’s not without reason that the US has particularly high crime rates in comparison to other first world places.

The US ain't a first world country period

 

[NAMELESS]

I mean you’re a fool if you think it won’t greatly reduce it. It’s not without reason that the US has particularly high crime rates in comparison to other first world places.

hum?The US has a shit ton of ethnicities and a huge border with one of the most dangerous nations in the world. There a few thousand homicides every year and HUNDREDS of thousands of defensive guns use every year in the US. No guns=more deaths in the US.

 

[Natalija]

Cops literally fight violence with guns. Are they the cause of criminality?No. There is no such thing as safe place,just places with lower crime rates. People are bad and shit happens everywhere. A man can beat another man. A woman can't. Neither can beat an armed indiviudal if unarmed. Guns are necessary. The right of self defense is a human right.

It’s the cops’ job to do so. Cops, hunters, and people who need them can still get guns once they do everything which is necessary by regulation. It’s really not that hard, it works.

Yup and the goal is to reduce crime rates, I’m glad you came to that conclusion as well.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Yes,they are.but none are beating an armed thug if they don't a have gun too. I'm not talking about firearms only. Don't forget all kinds of blunt and cutting objects can and are used as weapons.

Japan had their Prime Minister assassinated by a make shift/homemade gun, probably cuz he couldn't get access to an actual gun, people will make do with what they can.

 

[Natalija]

No guns=more deaths in the US.

Nope, that’s just not true. If you remove the access to the easiest murder weapon, you make it a lot harder to kill.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

It’s the cops’ job to do so.

the cops come when the victim is already dead

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Nope, that’s just not true. If you remove the access to the easiest murder weapon, you make it a lot harder to kill.

because crimimals care about the law, right.

 

[NAMELESS]

There’s no country with 0 crime, but there’s incredibly safe countries with gun control, and they don’t have many issues apart from special cases.

yeah,of course,Japan is one example.But that doesn't mean that less strict gun laws are cause of crime. We have pretty tight guns laws in Brazil and yet... Criminals use assault rifles,grenades and so on... Civillians can't buy those you know...

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Nope, that’s just not true. If you remove the access to the easiest murder weapon, you make it a lot harder to kill.

There are literally hundreds of thousands cased of defensive uses of a firearm every year in the US. Meaning hundreds of thousands of people defend themselves with guns. If they weren't armed,many of those would be rotting under the earth right now. Facts beat assumptions. You take the guns from americans and the place will be much worse.

 

[Natalija]

yeah,of course,Japan is one example.But that doesn't mean that less strict gun laws are cause of crime. We have pretty tight guns laws in Brazil and yet... Criminals use assault rifles,granedes and so on... Civillians can't buy those you know...

Yeah but you’re comparing a third world country (sorry) with laws which aren’t actually regulated, and a first world country which absolutely could regulate it if they wanted to.

But it’s just never going to happen anyways, they like it far too much 😂

 

[NAMELESS]

Nope, that’s just not true. If you remove the access to the easiest murder weapon, you make it a lot harder to kill.

Criminals rarely use legal weapons lol Ever heard of the black market?No background checks there lmfao