Look up the word prejudice. I don't know why you're pissy I called it dangerous then :milaugh:

US and Mexico/Brazil crime cannot be approached the same way cause they have a different set of issues. I'm arguing for gun regulation in the US, while you're saying it wouldn't do anything by using the example of Brazil. Except that Brazil and the US are completely, completely different in crime nature, corruption, and law execution, and the same solution is not possible (right now).
You pretending you didn't say we need a millenia of purging...ahh whatever,Nat! I already told you why i agree the American need to keep their schizophrenics kids away from guns and why that is not happening. You are just putting shit at my mouth at this point.
 
You pretending you didn't say we need a millenia of purging...ahh whatever,Nat! I already told you why i agree the American need to keep their schizophrenics kids away from guns and why that is not happening. You are just putting shit at my mouth at this point.
Yup, crime purging. It's true.
 
Mate. What you don't understand, is that Hitler was voted in power. If there were to be some crazy lunatic like him running for power. You would see the danger only when it will be in front of you, threatenning the life of your family. Fascism is something that can be perfectly accepted by the population.
Well that's what is happening here currently
 
Let me guess, You are playing the "adult" !


Not really no

https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/nij/247350.pdf


No, that's just what pacifism is : Non resistance facing violence or the absence of violence is situation of conflicts.


Yes precisely. The point was to show that Dawkins was not an expert on moral issues concerning abortion and had therefore no reason to say such problematic things. This was also a way to point out that Dawkins, his friend of the new atheism movement and their follower are actually going toward the pass of scientism, which is closer to cultism than real science and that their words should therefore be taken with a grain of salt.




Nop. Not really. Not at all in fact.
Look noboy cares about your what your gay sociologist says. Find your own echo chamber because you are the pretty much by yourself here.
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Yup, crime purging. It's true.
back in the 70s,we had low crime. What changed is that...ahh fuck it,forget it.
 
I have been reading about the gun debate ever since i'm 15. The correlation between crime and civillian ownership of firearms in non existant. your thesis that gun control makes for safer society is wrong. We have tight gun control in Brazil(and Mexico too btw) and yet...The narcoterrorists are all armed to the death. The politicans have body guards that are armed to the teeth. The army is armed to the teeth. Guess who has no boomstick? The average Ronaldo.
https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/...es with,firearm homicide and overall homicide.
 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309755075_Does_Gun_Control_Reduce_Violent_Crime
I can play this game too. Progressist havard scientits with biased frauds again.
Do gun control laws reduce violence? To answer this question, a city-level cross-sectional analysis was performed on data pertaining to every U.S. city with a population of at least 25,000 in 1990 (n = 1,078), assessing the impact of 19 major types of gun control laws, and controlling for gun ownership levels and numerous other possible confounders. Models were estimated using instrumental variables (IVs) regression to address endogeneity of gun levels due to reverse causality. Results indicate that gun control laws generally show no evidence of effects on crime rates, possibly because gun levels do not have a net positive effect on violence rates. Although a minority of laws seem to show effects, they are as likely to imply violence-increasing effects as violence-decreasing effects. There were, however, a few noteworthy exceptions: requiring a license to possess a gun and bans on purchases of guns by alcoholics appear to reduce rates of both homicide and robbery. Weaker evidence suggests that bans on gun purchases by criminals and on possession by mentally ill persons may reduce assault rates, and that bans on gun purchase by criminals may also reduce robbery rates.
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@Logiko
Pro tip: make shorter posts if you want people to read them, its really hard to find the reply to my quote when the post is too long
The world spins around him,bunny man. C4N does whatever he wants.
 

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I think the gun debate is almost a moot point. Our political system is so messed up everyone in power is pushed too far right and too far left to meet in the middle and make any meaningful change in the US.

I'm starting to wonder if my real problem isn't with the left but the messed up system that has forced me into one corner that protects my family's rights and my financial needs the most.
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I think the gun debate is almost a moot point. Our political system is so messed up everyone in power is pushed too far right and too far left to meet in the middle and make any meaningful change in the US.

I'm starting to wonder if my real problem isn't with the left but the messed up system that has forced me into one corner that protects my family's rights and my financial needs the most.
OH and this other huge right. My parental rights to raise my children and not have the government interfere.
 
Ask a Harvard scientist to explain why taking guns away from the average Ronaldo keeps him safer from a drug lord.
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I think the gun debate is almost a moot point. Our political system is so messed up everyone in power is pushed too far right and too far left to meet in the middle and make any meaningful change in the US.

I'm starting to wonder if my real problem isn't with the left but the messed up system that has forced me into one corner that protects my family's rights and my financial needs the most.
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OH and this other huge right. My parental rights to raise my children and not have the government interfere.
The left if but a propanga tool,my dear. The name of the game is money,power and control. Ideology=propaganda to get fools to fight for politicians.
 
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/309755075_Does_Gun_Control_Reduce_Violent_Crime
I can play this game too. Progressist havard scientits with biased frauds again.
Do gun control laws reduce violence? To answer this question, a city-level cross-sectional analysis was performed on data pertaining to every U.S. city with a population of at least 25,000 in 1990 (n = 1,078), assessing the impact of 19 major types of gun control laws, and controlling for gun ownership levels and numerous other possible confounders. Models were estimated using instrumental variables (IVs) regression to address endogeneity of gun levels due to reverse causality. Results indicate that gun control laws generally show no evidence of effects on crime rates, possibly because gun levels do not have a net positive effect on violence rates. Although a minority of laws seem to show effects, they are as likely to imply violence-increasing effects as violence-decreasing effects. There were, however, a few noteworthy exceptions: requiring a license to possess a gun and bans on purchases of guns by alcoholics appear to reduce rates of both homicide and robbery. Weaker evidence suggests that bans on gun purchases by criminals and on possession by mentally ill persons may reduce assault rates, and that bans on gun purchase by criminals may also reduce robbery rates.
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The world spins around him,bunny man. C4N does whatever he wants.
You realise it said this: There were, however, a few noteworthy exceptions: requiring a license to possess a gun and bans on purchases of guns by alcoholics appear to reduce rates of both homicide and robbery. Weaker evidence suggests that bans on gun purchases by criminals and on possession by mentally ill persons may reduce assault rates, and that bans on gun purchase by criminals may also reduce robbery rates.
 
I think the gun debate is almost a moot point. Our political system is so messed up everyone in power is pushed too far right and too far left to meet in the middle and make any meaningful change in the US.

I'm starting to wonder if my real problem isn't with the left but the messed up system that has forced me into one corner that protects my family's rights and my financial needs the most.
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OH and this other huge right. My parental rights to raise my children and not have the government interfere.
Home schooling is illegal in Brazil.
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:josad: did you even read the abstract you copied, cause that just proved my point
It said notable exceptions and says there is no correlation. Learn to read stuff and stop cherry picking.
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Hello, what’s the topic
Gun control and Nat is prejudiced against Mexicans and Brazilians.
 
You realise it said this: There were, however, a few noteworthy exceptions: requiring a license to possess a gun and bans on purchases of guns by alcoholics appear to reduce rates of both homicide and robbery. Weaker evidence suggests that bans on gun purchases by criminals and on possession by mentally ill persons may reduce assault rates, and that bans on gun purchase by criminals may also reduce robbery rates.
A few noteworthy exceptions
Exception:
. a person or thing that is excluded from a general statement or does not follow a rule

Example: he always plays top tunes, and tonight was no exception
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Notable exceptions means those bans would absolutely work.
In those few places,yes?As a standard rule?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
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She said all Mexicans are drug dealers. Look it upim joking
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Notable exceptions means those bans would absolutely work.
I need to eat.Do you want to drop this?
 
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a few noteworthy exceptions
Exception:
. a person or thing that is excluded from a general statement or does not follow a rule

Example: he always plays top tunes, and tonight was no exception
Yup, so it would reduce homicide rates if you banned guns to certain groups of people, and gun regulation does in fact lower the murder rates.


You made it easy :milaugh:
 
Yup, so it would reduce homicide rates if you banned guns to certain groups of people, and gun regulation does in fact lower the murder rates.


You made it easy :milaugh:
You are slow. Let me give you an example: Here we have drunk fools doing crazy shit with firearms too. You know why gun control doesn't preven this?
1-They buy illegal guns.
2-Drunk fools can't buy legal guns because chemical dependants can't buy guns,so they buy illegal guns.
So what did the Brazilian legislation achieve in reducing this type of crime?It didn't achieve anything,because they didn't adress illegal market.
Btw,i think training,education,background checks,mental health checks and so on are necessary to buy a firearm. And from time to time you should undergo everything again. Just like we do with our car legislation. The legislation is like that,but there are a few problems here:
1-They add in a "prove necessity" rule that makes it so pretty much anyone gets randomly denied,even if they did in fact suffer some kind of death thread. people need to help of theirs lawyers to buy guns here.
2-They tax guns a lot. So the victims of criminality(poor people) can only dream about legally buy a gun.
3-Concealed carry is pretty much non-existant from civillians. So you are pretty much defenseless while in the Streets.
I'm for Ar15s and shit but this is distant dream right now. I want the people i voted for to actually aprove some damn laws so our rights become solid right now. There is no juridical security concerning guns in Brazil. Legal guns could all be gone tomorrow.
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You lie. Are you serious?
Yes.I'm serious.The schools themselves can't choose what they will teach kids.Its the federal gov that decides what kids will be taught.This is communism for you.
 
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