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NAMELESS

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Monkey D Theories said:
Don’t know too much about Portuguese history. But my ethnic group is from the part of India they conquered and well, I can’t exactly say they treated us well.
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I dunno much about that part of portuguese colonization,but they did some bad things in Asia. Vasco da Gama was a bad guy and he ruled India i think.
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Monkey D Theories said:
Don’t know too much about Portuguese history. But my ethnic group is from the part of India they conquered and well, I can’t exactly say they treated us well.
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Listen,the Portuguese weren't all flowers and candy,but they literally brought civilization to people that lived stone age style and,differently from the shy British,they mixed by marriage with the locals. The Portuguese had way more respect of local cultures than other Europpean Settlers. I'm glad this place got colonized by the Portuguese and not the British.
 
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Zenos7

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Toby D. Dog said:
I believe in a democratic society where we choose what system we want to have. You clearly don't believe in that and you're willing to cleanse people who don't agree with your views. You're as genocidal as those you claim to despise.

I believe in free speech, and in a free democratic society, you have the right to exercise your free speech and believe in whatever you want.

You are intellectually dishonest when you claim you respect difference in opinion but conveniently change the definition of words to fit your own narrative. You're not very good at it either, it is very transparent. You don't own up to your own shit half the time and engage in behaviors you claim you despise. If you believe communists and socialists should be banned off public life then you are a fascist, or at the very least and ultra rightwing authoritarian who wants the state to control what you can do and advocate for.

I live in a country where nazis have the right to march as long as they're being peaceful about it. And as much as I hate them and find their views abhorrent, it is still the sacrifice you make when living in a free democratic country.
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Freedom of speech ends when one calls for violence imho. Other than that im with you on this
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NAMELESS said:
Yeah,i see the democracy the democrats want for Americans. Listen,dude,fuck you. I'm tired of your games. Everyone can claim anything. Politics is about actions. You lefties already showed your true colors long ago. I never claimed i respect differences of opinions,shitty opinions will get no respect from me. That doesn't mean i will make things personal. I'm not the one that goes calling everyone names. I didn't start this shit. You did. If i and some others here are answering you in a very uneducated way,well...its on you. Opinions=ideas. Authoritarian? States were created to provide security. Maintain peace and order basically. Its you guys that want the state to give you free meals and baby sit you and of course this creates an authoritarian monster. We saw how free we all were when covid hit: everyone was put into domestic jail. People were arrested over masks that don't work,lockdowns that didn't work and vaccines that might(or not) have worked. You are the one that should own up to your shit. I have always said that i'm anti-communist. Isn't democracy about freeling expression of opinions too? I think communism/socialism are cancerous and shold be banned. Just like nazism. Its as simple as that. If you don't like it,fine. Don't put words in my mouth.
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I wasnt talking exclusively about economical freedom. You literally get fined if you smoke in Singapore. Its a higly intrusive state. I was talking about individual freedoms.
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:gokulaugh:
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They literally banned religion in the Soviet Union. Its goes beyond economics. Its a very tyranical system that tries to endoctrinate its citizens into accepting SLAVERY. Look how crazy North Korea is.
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Opinions dont deserve respect anyway. People do. Unless they are disrespectful to you
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Logiko said:
Ideology : The body of doctrine, myth, belief, etc., that guides an individual, social movement, institution, class, or large group."
A belief is comparable to a value which in return is comparable to an ideology.

This is why where there is no ideology, there is no value. And where there is no value, there is no ethic.
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Keyword "body" bro
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Logiko said:
Already did ages ago, long before we even had this debate:

Wikipedia : "In gender studies, the term gender refers to proposed social and cultural constructions of masculinities and femininities"

World Health Organization: "Gender refers to the characteristics of women, men, girls and boys that are socially constructed. This includes norms, behaviours and roles associated with being a woman, man, girl or boy, as well as relationships with each other. As a social construct, gender varies from society to society and can change over time. "
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Now im really confused, because this is the definition people base their statement "there are two genders" on. Its the gender roles definition of gender.

But im 100% sure you dont agree with there being two genders, so you kinda have to subscribe to the definition about gender identity, or not?
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Logiko said:
Donating to anti far right and independant press
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Why press and not activists groups or something?
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NAMELESS said:
FUCK THE LEFT AND ALL THAT YOU GUYS STAND FOR.
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Ok thanks
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Toby D. Dog said:
I never denied bolsheviks being genocidal,that doesn’t change the fact that you are using words like cleanse. Stop hiding behind the atrocities of a dead empire in order to justify what you want to do.

you can keep pretending I’m a commie, you can keep pretending all communists are militants and murderers, still doesn’t change the fact that you’re an unhinged freak who believes in state violence and censorship. You are a fascist, and I don’t throw that label Willy nilly like c4n.
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Yeah you convinced me he is worse than logiko. Guess i didnt catch the last discussion about this topic.
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Ravagerblade said:
I think this topic should be shelfed for later, or you 2 can P.M. each other...
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Why
 
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Bisoromi Bear

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Toby D. Dog said:
. I could very easily do the same thing and label you as a nazi for wanting to kill your political adversaries, but I'm not intellectually dishonest like you.
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Well he called for genocide against indigenous people :kayneshrug: and tried to gaslight me calling me racist when I pointed out how organised crime is raping indigenous women in isolated ,legally off limits territories while also destroying the environment. "you don't want mixed race babies? You must be racist"
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Toby D. Dog said:
@Zenos7 since you're the values guy. Remember this.
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A few days ago he wanted to shoot "drug dealers". I wonder whom he actually wants to shoot with his very legally acquired automatic rifles🤔
 
Mathias

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@NAMELESS Are you into airsoft and whatnot ? I have to admit that I've stumbled into some cool videos while scrolling on social media.

I despise guns btw, but airsoft players look like they're having fun---- I guess ?

I did paintball when I was 14 a few times. But the day I played with real ass dudes who spend their life doing that... well, it made me realize it wasn't for me :milaugh::milaugh:
 
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Mathias said:
@NAMELESS Are you into airsoft and whatnot ? I have to admit that I've stumbled into some cool videos while scrolling on social media.

I despise guns btw, but airsoft players look like they're having fun---- I guess ?

I did paintball when I was 14 a few times. But the day I played with real ass dudes who spend their life doing that... well, it made me realize it wasn't for me :milaugh::milaugh:
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Lasertag :cheers:
 
NAMELESS

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Mathias said:
@NAMELESS Are you into airsoft and whatnot ? I have to admit that I've stumbled into some cool videos while scrolling on social media.

I despise guns btw, but airsoft players look like they're having fun---- I guess ?

I did paintball when I was 14 a few times. But the day I played with real ass dudes who spend their life doing that... well, it made me realize it wasn't for me :milaugh::milaugh:
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I played paintball when i was younger. Airsoft looks cool,but i dunno if its the same as paintball,because those paint balls actually hurt.
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Bisoromi Bear said:
Well he called for genocide against indigenous people :kayneshrug: and tried to gaslight me calling me racist when I pointed out how organised crime is raping indigenous women in isolated ,legally off limits territories while also destroying the environment. "you don't want mixed race babies? You must be racist"
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Liar. I didn't say anything like that,you bitch.
 
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NAMELESS

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Zenos7 said:
Freedom of speech ends when one calls for violence imho. Other than that im with you on this
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Opinions dont deserve respect anyway. People do. Unless they are disrespectful to you
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Keyword "body" bro
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Now im really confused, because this is the definition people base their statement "there are two genders" on. Its the gender roles definition of gender.

But im 100% sure you dont agree with there being two genders, so you kinda have to subscribe to the definition about gender identity, or not?
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Why press and not activists groups or something?
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Ok thanks
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Yeah you convinced me he is worse than logiko. Guess i didnt catch the last discussion about this topic.
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Why
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I think went too agressive yersterday,but look at the shit these guys throw at me. Now Solis is saying i called out for indigenous genocide and that i'm cool with drug lords raping women. Imagine if i said such a lie for anyone here. It would be instant perma ban.
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Zenos7 said:
Freedom of speech ends when one calls for violence imho. Other than that im with you on this
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Prior to 2019 elections,some extreme left learders here were calling for shooting the conservatives. You think they care about any of that shit?
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Toby D. Dog said:
The way I see it Logiko is annoying and believes he’s the sole owner of the truth. But a guy like nameless is an actual fascist who doesn’t believe in free speech and would use the power of the state to prevent the individual from exercising that free speech.
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You can't be a nazi in germany. You can't be a communist in Poland. I guess they are against free speech too. just because americans allow for people to spread degenerate ideas around doesn't mean we should. No wonder you have 18 year olds neo nazis shooting people up there.
 
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