Future Events Will history repeat itself? Egghead final match-ups

[zenox]

Why do you like to shoot yourself in the foot...
https://worstgen.alwaysdata.net/forum/threads/roronoa-zoro-versus-headcanon.821/
Read, son. You will see how much I got right.


Ah, that's your copium? Because I got one thing wrong, all the things I got right disappear?
I stood right here when ZKK didnt happen and called out everyone to trash me, if they can. Didnt go your way.
My signature is an illustration of what everyone should know - Power beats Fame.

Bro u are simply too powerful 😂😂

 

[Adamxero]

You got real defensive, real quick there, Adam-chin...
First, I didnt ask if you said he would scar Kaido or not, I asked if it is as bold as saying he wont scar Kaido despite failing to beat Apoo...
Second, I was supporting Zoro vs King during rooftop, when barely anyone thought it would happen.

If you think that supporting ZKK is dumb in my eyes, you are simply wrong. I would support it all over again because it was building towards it. Just because it didnt happen, the build-up didnt disappear. You somehow still think that Zoro saying he came to cut Kaido into pieces is a fabrication of Zorotards, huh?

How could I make the scar bigger than it was when Oda himself gave that feat only to 2 mighty swordsmen among all the legendary figures... And in Zoro's case, he did it without the power of the handful of the very strongest. lol If that is not uber wank idk what is...

Then support Zoro vs Kizaru so you can see him fail because, according to you, he will not perform better than Luffy.
I am not suggesting anything, it is a fact that Luffy couldnt put down for good neither Lucci nor Kizaru with a full round of his peak.
How many rounds are we supposed to give Luffy to put Kizaru down to say he can do it? As many rounds as he had vs Kaido?
I hope you know that is simply plot armor dragging his ass to victory, that has nothing to do with him being strong enough to do it.

Not defensive straight up facts Lik.

I mentioned trying to bring to me he scarred Kaido when I never ever argued against it is pointless.

You were also in the crowd he'd magically heal up head to rooftop or beat awakening Kaido when I was trying to bring common sense to you at this period.

The build up was mostly in your head. You guys brought cover pages, random number theories etc and forced it to fit your theory despite everyone else (non Zorotards) telling you wait up that doesn't make sense.

The scar meant nothing though in the grand scheme of things. Oden's at least gave Kaido PTSD while Zoro's was just more well nice try better luck next time. Zoro himself said it he wanted to knock Kaido down at least. Luffy in the same chapter did it with one base AdvCoC punch.

And this is where we differ because you're so agenda ridden you can't understand One Piece and that Luffy will be the strongest and will fight the strongest. So far Kizaru is the strongest unless Saturn shows us anything really. I'm not supporting Zoro vs Kizaru just because derp strength feats for Zolo I'm supporting Luffy vs Kizaru because the story of Kizaru clearly struggling with the concept of freedom in his role is going to come to head with Luffy fighting him.

You're so disingenuous you won't even say Luffy beat Lucci easily because you're afraid it's going to damage your Zolo PR when any normal person who looks at the Luffy and Lucci fight can see Luffy dominated him easily.

The story is more than derp one shot this derp one shot that and until you understand that you'll constantly be disappointed by Zoro's match ups and how his fights go. Oda went out of his way to show Sanji is not at the level to fight an admiral and he Oda goes out of his way to show Sanji and Zoro aren't that far away in strength despite how much you hate me saying that.

Zoro is not strong enough to fight Kizaru and no doubt you'll give some response like what if he one shots Kizaru etc because that's all you do work on Lik If's, but's and maybe's.

 

[nik87]

Not defensive straight up facts Lik.

I mentioned trying to bring to me he scarred Kaido when I never ever argued against it is pointless.

You were also in the crowd he'd magically heal up head to rooftop or beat awakening Kaido when I was trying to bring common sense to you at this period.

The build up was mostly in your head. You guys brought cover pages, random number theories etc and forced it to fit your theory despite everyone else (non Zorotards) telling you wait up that doesn't make sense.

The scar meant nothing though in the grand scheme of things. Oden's at least gave Kaido PTSD while Zoro's was just more well nice try better luck next time. Zoro himself said it he wanted to knock Kaido down at least. Luffy in the same chapter did it with one base AdvCoC punch.

And this is where we differ because you're so agenda ridden you can't understand One Piece and that Luffy will be the strongest and will fight the strongest. So far Kizaru is the strongest unless Saturn shows us anything really. I'm not supporting Zoro vs Kizaru just because derp strength feats for Zolo I'm supporting Luffy vs Kizaru because the story of Kizaru clearly struggling with the concept of freedom in his role is going to come to head with Luffy fighting him.

You're so disingenuous you won't even say Luffy beat Lucci easily because you're afraid it's going to damage your Zolo PR when any normal person who looks at the Luffy and Lucci fight can see Luffy dominated him easily.

The story is more than derp one shot this derp one shot that and until you understand that you'll constantly be disappointed by Zoro's match ups and how his fights go. Oda went out of his way to show Sanji is not at the level to fight an admiral and he Oda goes out of his way to show Sanji and Zoro aren't that far away in strength despite how much you hate me saying that.

Zoro is not strong enough to fight Kizaru and no doubt you'll give some response like what if he one shots Kizaru etc because that's all you do work on Lik If's, but's and maybe's.

The point is not whether you argued Zoro's feats against Kaido or not... The point is, is saying Zoro will clap Kizaru, despite failing to beat Lucci, as bold as saying that Zoro would scar Kaido, despite failing to beat Apoo? That's all I asked you, Adam-chin...

No, I was not in the magical healing crowd, I was in Chopper will use the Ice Oni virus on Zoro crowd that numbered only a few people.
Wrong, the build-up is there and I have explained it into details in Samurai and Dragons. Saying build-up was in our head is just denial.

The scar is still the best offensive feat in the world, in the grand scheme of things, lol. It is even better than Oden's considering Zoro did it without the power of the handful of very strongest. Nobody can compare with Zori's feat. No, Zoro doesnt want to "knock people down", lol. You are on purpose playing dumb and acting like you dont know what Zoro meant. Nope, Luffy didnt achieve anything close to Zoro's feat, not even after aCoC+Awakening.

There is no agenda about Zoro being superior to Luffy at any point in time. Luffybros simply cant power scale or read manga, yall literally ignore countless evidence. Kizaru's inner struggle is fake, he will follow Saturn's orders and that's all. Nothing disingenuous about saying that Luffy didnt beat Lucci because the scene is a throwback to EL and just like in EL, Lucci wasnt beaten. If Lucci was beaten, Zoro wouldnt be fighting him now. I have never denied that he dominated, I denied that he has beaten him. Difference.

I am not disappointed by Zoro's match-ups, I already know all his opponents and not a single one is disappointing. Stalling devices like Lucci arent Zoro's match-up of relevance. Precisely because I understand how Zoro's fights go, I know Lucci aint it in this arc, only Kizaru stands a chance to keep Zoro busy for 10 minutes when he is serious, because he potentially has an invincible state.

Oda went out of his way to show that 4 other Supernovas couldnt match Zoro and every Luffy fan hates that to high heavens.
While you are coping with Sanji, Zoro is making Luffy look like 3rd rate combatant.
Wrong, Zoro is absolutely strong enough to fight Kizaru and IF he gets a chance, you wont like the results.

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Nik theories are just as solid as C4N's, and just like C4N he will defend them stating how "obvious" and "clear" they are.

No point discussing with preachers.

But he fun and also he is the GOAT of Zoro'fans.

 

[Pringles]

I understand One Piece well enough.
Nothing delusional about it after rooftop, especially after seeing that Zoro is more capable than other 4 on roofotp.
If he managed to leave a scar before PUs, made Kaido dodge the dragon slaying move from Ryuma, not hard to imagine what would have happened after PUs.
Even when Zoro was down after the King fight, there was a plot element on Onigashima that would have allowed him to stand back up and perform ZKK.
Oda simply abandoned countless plotlines and called it a day. Whether he planed ZKK or not, we dont know but he surely did draw Zoro saying that he came to cut Kaido into pieces and that has shut everyone up who until that point complained about it.


What was the 2nd time?

Well enough is not perfect.

I respect you nik and I think that you are one of the most respectable people over here.

I thought you were completely deluded at first but you make much more sense than people claim.

Everything you say would make sense if we suddenly put Zoro as the main character and ignored that Luffy is the MC.

I'm all on board on Zoro vs Kizaru as I said in the past, I also know that Luffy will fight Saturn instead.

Just don't forget who is the main character and the captain.

Even Zoro accepts Luffy as captain because Luffy is stronger.

Zoro's dream is for Kuina and Luffy.

If you are a Zoro fan, you should accept Luffy being stronger.

 

[nik87]

Well enough is not perfect.

I respect you nik and I think that you are one of the most respectable people over here.

I thought you were completely deluded at first but you make much more sense than people claim.

Everything you say would make sense if we suddenly put Zoro as the main character and ignored that Luffy is the MC.

I'm all on board on Zoro vs Kizaru as I said in the past, I also know that Luffy will fight Saturn instead.

Just don't forget who is the main character and the captain.

Even Zoro accepts Luffy as captain because Luffy is stronger.

Zoro's dream is for Kuina and Luffy.

If you are a Zoro fan, you should accept Luffy being stronger.

Well, enough is more than what can be said for plenty of others out there...
I am fully aware of who the MC is and I have only once tried to take Fame away from the one representing Fame - with ZKK.
It was doable even in a way that Zoro gets no fame for it and Luffy still gets fame for it.
Even if he stole it, I assumed Luffy's future liberation of the world would bring him vastly more fame than ZKK would to Zoro.
Zoro himself needs fame as it is partially his dream that his name reaches the heavens.
Turns out I was wrong and Zoro isnt allowed to be more famous than Luffy at any point in time, except for the very start of the show...

That said, I do not plan to take away Fame from Luffy but I do intend to take away Power from Luffy, very much so.
Because Zoro is the one who represents Power. I am a Zoro fan who pays attention and it is impossible to accept Luffy as stronger when there is plenty of evidence that Zoro is the stronger one, always was, always will be, because that is his one and only purpose, to be very, very, very strongest. Zoro has never accepted Luffy as captain because he is stronger, that is made up.

Zoro can easily take Kizaru from him and Luffy will be unaffected because Saturn brings in more fame, even if he is weaker than Kizaru.
Ultimately, Luffy is personification of Freedom, Zoro is personification of Power. They both manifested mythical ability representing those.
Zoro is the ultimate hakiman in the show and >haki conquers everything. Zoro desires Power more than Luffy does.
And Zoro has to beat the man who has the best haki feat in the whole world by forging the strongest weapon of all times.
People mistake Luffy's fame with him being strong, ignore context that he gets tons of help and loses rounds and rounds in his fights while Zoro's victories are swift and brutal without any help and additional rounds.

 

[pg13]

It is not the first time Zoro took an Admiral over from Luffy after Luffy got his ass kicked.
Are we about to repeat this scenario in Egghead too?
That way Luffy can finally move on to where he needed to be from the get-go, against Saturn.

Zoro said that but it didn’t actually happen, and likely won’t happen here

 

[Gaimon The Pirate]

Zoro said that but it didn’t actually happen, and likely won’t happen here

Zoro says a lot of things, just like when he promised he'd never lose again and lost with Arlong the following arc, lost with Ener and others..

 

[Adamxero]

The point is not whether you argued Zoro's feats against Kaido or not... The point is, is saying Zoro will clap Kizaru, despite failing to beat Lucci, as bold as saying that Zoro would scar Kaido, despite failing to beat Apoo? That's all I asked you, Adam-chin...

No, I was not in the magical healing crowd, I was in Chopper will use the Ice Oni virus on Zoro crowd that numbered only a few people.
Wrong, the build-up is there and I have explained it into details in Samurai and Dragons. Saying build-up was in our head is just denial.

The scar is still the best offensive feat in the world, in the grand scheme of things, lol. It is even better than Oden's considering Zoro did it without the power of the handful of very strongest. Nobody can compare with Zori's feat. No, Zoro doesnt want to "knock people down", lol. You are on purpose playing dumb and acting like you dont know what Zoro meant. Nope, Luffy didnt achieve anything close to Zoro's feat, not even after aCoC+Awakening.

There is no agenda about Zoro being superior to Luffy at any point in time. Luffybros simply cant power scale or read manga, yall literally ignore countless evidence. Kizaru's inner struggle is fake, he will follow Saturn's orders and that's all. Nothing disingenuous about saying that Luffy didnt beat Lucci because the scene is a throwback to EL and just like in EL, Lucci wasnt beaten. If Lucci was beaten, Zoro wouldnt be fighting him now. I have never denied that he dominated, I denied that he has beaten him. Difference.

I am not disappointed by Zoro's match-ups, I already know all his opponents and not a single one is disappointing. Stalling devices like Lucci arent Zoro's match-up of relevance. Precisely because I understand how Zoro's fights go, I know Lucci aint it in this arc, only Kizaru stands a chance to keep Zoro busy for 10 minutes when he is serious, because he potentially has an invincible state.

Oda went out of his way to show that 4 other Supernovas couldnt match Zoro and every Luffy fan hates that to high heavens.
While you are coping with Sanji, Zoro is making Luffy look like 3rd rate combatant.
Wrong, Zoro is absolutely strong enough to fight Kizaru and IF he gets a chance, you wont like the results.

Again delusional.

I guess we'll just have another arc of failed match predictions Lik predictions.

 

[nik87]

Again delusional.

I guess we'll just have another arc of failed match predictions Lik predictions.

Maybe, maybe not... :cheers:

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

Loro is getting bodied by Lucci whilst Luffy fights Saturn + Kizaru 1 v 2

 

[Gari]

What if he one-shots Kizaru? How many copium huffs will be needed?

Goofy's White star gun had the man literally stunned for a moment, I don't want to imagine what a random ass tatsumaki coated with conquerors would do to Kizaru (oneshots)

 

[Cozy Sofa]

We know EoS Zoro needs to become => Mihawk. Essentially Yonko. The only way to reach that level is fights against top opposition. So how about this:

- SHP escape from Egghead.
- Kizaru feels a bit humiliated and follows to Elbaf
- Luffy takes on Shanks or Loki
- Zoro takes on Kizaru

That way Zoro gets closer to his goal but he is, like during most of the series, always an arc behind Luffy in strength. When he catches up Luffy pulls away again. And so by EoS Zoro will reach WSS/Yonko level but Luffy will pull away and reach WSM/Pirate King.

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

Goofy's White star gun had the man literally stunned for a moment, I don't want to imagine what a random ass tatsumaki coated with conquerors would do to Kizaru (oneshots)

WSG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KOH Ashura (or whatever his strongest attack is).

Kizaru would block it with his bare hands and proceed to laser a hole into Loros skull. Can't cut Lucci's nails or bare legs

 

[nik87]

WSG>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KOH Ashura (or whatever his strongest attack is).

Kizaru would block it with his bare hands and proceed to laser a hole into Loros skull. Can't cut Lucci's nails or bare legs

If Zoro shows up and trashes Kizaru, this is going to age so well.

 

[trav]

*ting ting ting*
I have an announcement to make
AHEM

Zoro one shots
That is all

:cheers:

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

If Zoro shows up and trashes Kizaru, this is going to age so well.

Get him past Lucci first

 

[nik87]

Get him past Lucci first

If Luffy was strong enough, there would be no Lucci keeping Zori busy.

 

[YonkoGodLuffy]

If Luffy was strong enough, there would be no Lucci keeping Zori busy.

Luffy was strong enough to sleep diff Lucci, Loro wasn't strong enough to get past his fingernails, luckily Jinbei is there to lend Loro a hand

 

[nik87]

Luffy was strong enough to sleep diff Lucci, Loro wasn't strong enough to get past his fingernails, luckily Jinbei is there to lend Loro a hand

Luffy was so strong that Lucci didnt recognize him as an Emperor...