TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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I'm sorry but you gotta be brain dead to not see the writing on the wall.

If Smoker was going to do something major, wouldn't we be seeing him around now? Why isn't Oda building him up? Why aren't important characters like BLACKBEARD THE YONKO recognizing him and formulating a plan around his capture.

Why isn't he being drawn? Is he not worth the ink?

Apparently.
 
Koby would legit one shot PH Smoker.

But it's not even totally about power levels, Koby has been Luffy's rival since the literal start of the series and we've only seen more and more of him.

  • Escorting princesses to Reverie post WCI
  • Talking to X Drake in Wano
  • Taking part in the attack on Amazon Lily, Post Wano
  • The entire Hachinosu plot line is centered around him playing the role of Ace.

The closest, absolute closest, Smoker has been to coming back is Tashigi making a background cameo and maybe getting a few lines of throwaway dialogue.
True.

Koby was before, started a plot with Garp in the pre TS, and in the post he totally, and I meant totally, outshined Smoker narratively. Smoker had a role in Alabasta-LT, but then not much and in the post TS he was humiliated first and then disappeared after.

Even Tashigi came back and not Smoker.
 
I'm sorry but you gotta be brain dead to not see the writing on the wall.

If Smoker was going to do something major, wouldn't we be seeing him around now? Why isn't Oda building him up? Why aren't important characters like BLACKBEARD THE YONKO recognizing him and formulating a plan around his capture.

Why isn't he being drawn? Is he not worth the ink?

Apparently.
Fucking Dragon mentioned his name like four chapters ago???
 
Old Garp would solidly take down Kuzan, from his current showings, fully agreed.

Difficulty can be argued.

Yeah... A punch capable of shattering a hand bigger than Dressrosa Pica.

Koby's entirely physical, don't think his strength won't translate to other areas as well. The only thing Koby's lacked is confidence.
But he's shown nothing to warrant that benefit of the doubt.

If Cryby was as powerful as you're implying no way he gets so easily overwhelmed by Boa.

Not saying he's not VA strength but to imply he's overall as strong as potentially DR Luffy or Zoro is a wild take when he's beat no one.
 

TheAncientCenturion

I will never forgive Oda
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True.

Koby was before, started a plot with Garp in the pre TS, and in the post he totally, and I meant totally, outshined Smoker narratively. Smoker had a role in Alabasta-LT, but then not much and in the post TS he was humiliated first and then disappeared after.

Even Tashigi came back and not Smoker.
You would think that, if a character was important, Oda would take the time to remind the audience about them bare minimum. All the big players in the final saga have been showcased.

  • Shanks, repeatedly.
  • Blackbeard, repeatedly.
  • Gorosei/Imu, repeatedly.
  • Akainu, against Kuma.
  • Dragon/Revos, they had their own mini arc and have been increasingly interwoven with the story.


Poor, poor Smoker's left in 2015 where he got a Doffy style cameo, otherwise he's in February of 2013 where his last contribution to the story happened.
 
This just the OP fandom having unrealistic expectations. There were never going to be a new "garp". You think Smoker would been on the future Pirate King level? It’s not even Koby will be able to even clash with Luffy lmaoo.

But saying Smoker became irrelevant to the story is just not true at all. He’s gonna bring a big change
the marines alongside Fujitora & Koby ( also the whole Sword gang)
Smoker is missing since end end of DR (where he was in bed and admitted total inferiority to Fujitora even if he had the same rank).
It's not that I don't like him or did not want him to be important: it's just that as of now he is...nothing.

And Koby and Luffy are definitely meeting and fighting, since there is a promess involved.
 
Yeah but no admiral level lmfao

That's implying current Cryby is stronger than DR Sabo who after getting Ace's fruit was still not admiral level.

Let's not be deluded now.
I think you’re the one who’s being delusional here if you don’t think Sabo is on admiral level lmao. Also, I did specifically say "it’s way too early for Koby"..
 
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