ONE PIECE CHAPTER 1107: I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR YOU
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This just shows your extreme narrow-mindedness. There are more ways to tell a story than one crappy template. But you don’t even know there are such things as interpretations.
Vegapunk getting stabbed by the evillest guy far and wide (which you do not care about at all) does not make a “redemption” arc. There is no redemption arc, Vegapunk was always pretty neutral or an ally (or friend to Dragon). To the SHs he was “bland”, to use a word of your own. And Oda was increasingly painting a picture of his personality as one with strong empathy and a deep sense of justice.
When it was revealed that he gave Bonney the command for the Pacifistas, it was from his own sense of care and forethought, not as a way to say “sorry” or rid himself of his guilt. You probably despised him from the start and didn’t pay attention and gave him the fault for Kuma, which is simply incorrect. Bonney herself has no issue with him.
Even if one sees anything “edgy” or borderline to him, that just serves to highlight the theme of scientific ethics (and which is arguably necessary to make him interesting). But there is nothing like Oda wanting him dead or a bloodthirstiness against him, which is not warranted and would be an absolutely idiotic simplification of the theme (e.g. imagine people protesting in front of cinemas playing Oppenheimer). There are other scientists in the story who callously and deliberately commit atrocities.
Okay, you are easily thrown off by words that are not literally your own in your head. Then don’t call it leeway, the result is pure shallowness and hypocrisy either way.
And if you don’t think him wielding his sword and telling Bonney and Kuma exactly how he will cut them (“so that they are together” – how cpompassionate) isn’t dangerous, if no-one intervenes, then that’s just headcanon and I would say subjective crap.
Also the way he is trying to justify his actions to himself, like “you’ll be dead either way” are no mere game.
It’s also an explicit plot point that he is unsettled (or shaken or whatever), first brought up VP – and confirmed by Kizaru -, and now immortalized in an expression that will forever hype Sanji… As most likely his nerves play a role in that, but either way he is clearly unsettled in that panel.
I don’t even know why you need to argue about this word, but maybe that’s your thing...
The point is that it’s pretty rare that is someone is shouting for the death of a character, usually not even for an arc boss, and VP is definitely not that guy.
I don't believe he construed some absurd plan like this, it's more likely that being designed as weapons or soldiers etc, they have certain personality traits removed. Plus other modifications, like increased growth. There is no need for some devious nonsense to force them to go against their natural behaviour.
We might learn more about how they came to be...
Vegapunk getting stabbed by the evillest guy far and wide (which you do not care about at all) does not make a “redemption” arc. There is no redemption arc, Vegapunk was always pretty neutral or an ally (or friend to Dragon). To the SHs he was “bland”, to use a word of your own. And Oda was increasingly painting a picture of his personality as one with strong empathy and a deep sense of justice.
When it was revealed that he gave Bonney the command for the Pacifistas, it was from his own sense of care and forethought, not as a way to say “sorry” or rid himself of his guilt. You probably despised him from the start and didn’t pay attention and gave him the fault for Kuma, which is simply incorrect. Bonney herself has no issue with him.
Even if one sees anything “edgy” or borderline to him, that just serves to highlight the theme of scientific ethics (and which is arguably necessary to make him interesting). But there is nothing like Oda wanting him dead or a bloodthirstiness against him, which is not warranted and would be an absolutely idiotic simplification of the theme (e.g. imagine people protesting in front of cinemas playing Oppenheimer). There are other scientists in the story who callously and deliberately commit atrocities.
Okay, you are easily thrown off by words that are not literally your own in your head. Then don’t call it leeway, the result is pure shallowness and hypocrisy either way.
And if you don’t think him wielding his sword and telling Bonney and Kuma exactly how he will cut them (“so that they are together” – how cpompassionate) isn’t dangerous, if no-one intervenes, then that’s just headcanon and I would say subjective crap.
Also the way he is trying to justify his actions to himself, like “you’ll be dead either way” are no mere game.
It’s also an explicit plot point that he is unsettled (or shaken or whatever), first brought up VP – and confirmed by Kizaru -, and now immortalized in an expression that will forever hype Sanji… As most likely his nerves play a role in that, but either way he is clearly unsettled in that panel.
I don’t even know why you need to argue about this word, but maybe that’s your thing...
The point is that it’s pretty rare that is someone is shouting for the death of a character, usually not even for an arc boss, and VP is definitely not that guy.
I don't believe he construed some absurd plan like this, it's more likely that being designed as weapons or soldiers etc, they have certain personality traits removed. Plus other modifications, like increased growth. There is no need for some devious nonsense to force them to go against their natural behaviour.
We might learn more about how they came to be...
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I do not know what you are arguing for anymore, that Vegapunk doesn't deserve to die? That no one should want that outcome? Or that Oda has no intention of that despite Vegapunk just saying he's dying? 
Not rare at all. I shouted for Boa to die at the hand of Blackbeard, I am fine with Kidd or Law dying, not because I dislike these characters, but because deaths would add weight and seriousness to the story, and make the characters themselves more compelling and tragic.
Hell Shanks is one of my faves and I do advocate for his death (even though I might have a breakdown).
The truth is Vegapunk's death would make him a better character as opposed to continuing to jump around happily despite all the bad things he's done. And Oda implies this as well with recent chapters, if you choose to ignore that for whatever reason, that's on you.
Not rare at all. I shouted for Boa to die at the hand of Blackbeard, I am fine with Kidd or Law dying, not because I dislike these characters, but because deaths would add weight and seriousness to the story, and make the characters themselves more compelling and tragic.
Hell Shanks is one of my faves and I do advocate for his death (even though I might have a breakdown).
The truth is Vegapunk's death would make him a better character as opposed to continuing to jump around happily despite all the bad things he's done. And Oda implies this as well with recent chapters, if you choose to ignore that for whatever reason, that's on you.
While this is true, this is a situation where the strawhats are in no position to hold back. They are escaping a buster call, Saturn Lucci and Kizaru are present. Zoro sensed Saturn so he’s aware there’s another force about. Despite that he’s not shown wearing the bandanna 3 swords ACoC KoH streaks along with the context of dialogue making it sound like he’s allowed the fight to go as long as it did and is going to end it now.
idk guess I personally would’ve preferred less random panels of them fighting sprinkled here and there and just have a chapter dedicated to them fighting and be done with it. When they initiated I was happy Zoro was getting a chance to also beat Lucci since he got embarrassed by him back in water 7.
idk guess I personally would’ve preferred less random panels of them fighting sprinkled here and there and just have a chapter dedicated to them fighting and be done with it. When they initiated I was happy Zoro was getting a chance to also beat Lucci since he got embarrassed by him back in water 7.
You're talking like Monkey D. Lusional
Admiral level and Yonko level are fake distinctions we don't even have clarification on. You've just internalized power scaling and that's the only thing you scan the pages for. Also, "resenting the straw hats," dawg what are you smoking??? The only reading I have of this is Zoro not being portrayed in the best light and Luffy being silly. Yeah man, Oda really went out of his way to shit on Usopp this chapter by having Usopp be happy about Dorry and Brogy being back.
I get Luffy laughing being off putting, but I'd wait a bit for the next few chapters to drop and see what the full context is. VP is probably gonna die, but I'm thinking Oda is saving the death speech for a bit later. That's when Luffy will be more somber.
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Admiral level and Yonko level are fake distinctions we don't even have clarification on. You've just internalized power scaling and that's the only thing you scan the pages for. Also, "resenting the straw hats," dawg what are you smoking??? The only reading I have of this is Zoro not being portrayed in the best light and Luffy being silly. Yeah man, Oda really went out of his way to shit on Usopp this chapter by having Usopp be happy about Dorry and Brogy being back.
I get Luffy laughing being off putting, but I'd wait a bit for the next few chapters to drop and see what the full context is. VP is probably gonna die, but I'm thinking Oda is saving the death speech for a bit later. That's when Luffy will be more somber.
I'm not saying Yonkos have be stronger then Admirals. The problem is that Kizaru is not a actual challenge for Luffy. Luffy punches him and he's out cold. Instead of Luffy finishing the fight, he just laughs until Kizaru gets back up and starts attacking people again. Rince and repeat.
I think Oda likes Ussop generally. He doesn't like Zoro, Robin or Jinbei. Basically any character he can't turn into a looney tone he doesn't like anymore. For Robin and Jinbei he can just ignore them. Zoro is so popular that he feels he needs to write in something for him but since he resents having to write the character he tries to slander the character every moment he gets.
Luffy started off in G5 just like he started off in g4 against a ship. Do you honestly think Luffy had to be in G5 for Lucci when he started off in base against an admiral. I swr you neeks can't powerscale for shit
Luffy started G5 against Lucci,...Zoro is controlling Lucci with only 2 swords
