General & Others Why did my fellow Zoro fans delude themselves so much about him beating Kizaru this arc?

Can you fucking read?

Rescue arc consisting and saying you will rescue someone. Doing the said rescue. And then fucking leaving. Ennies Lobby was the same.

There is no rescue in Egghead. There is no rescue in Sabaody.
You wrote escape over a WCI scene lmao. These are your own made up definitions that dont actually define anything useful and you cant even keep your arguments straight.

Kizaru is losing and Elbaf is next. See ya later!
 
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You wrote escape over a WCI scene lmao. These are your own made up definitions that dont actually define anything useful and you cant even keep your arguments straight.

Kizaru is losing and Elbaf is next. See ya later!
5th grade kids have better interpretation and reading comprehension skills than you do.

Kizaru is not going down (he will lose without getting defeated) and we won't ever have Elbaf arc.
 
Kizaru unbothered by all the top tiers and even G5 Luffy, and it was Sanji who made him react like he saw a ghost and shit his pants.

Nobody could have predicted this. Sanji damaging Kizaru would mean less than this, we saw Jozu damage Kuzan before but to make the most unbothered character in the entire series react like that is damn near out of pocket. Kizaru hardly took G5 seriously. Sanji can sit the rest of the arc out and I still think Oda glazed him too much for that 1 panel alone. Almost looks like a fanart meme drawn by a Sanji fan.
When even Ben Beckman himself barely phases you...

But the power of Wanji's flaming love makes you sweat bullets.

Not even Wizaru himself could've seen it coming. :lusnipe: Based Wanji.
 
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"he has to cut light" bro it looks like a theory from an 8 year old kid, your arguments to justify a zoro vs kizaru are ridiculous

"Zoro always fights the 2nd strongest, you can't deny that lil bro " I can deny that because Zoro has several times faced a unique opponent who was not the 2nd most powerful character present on an island (ex : Pica, Money, King ..).

You pretend that Sanji cant and will never have a better feat than zoro but all the arguments to justify the logic behind Kizaru vs Sanji / Luffy have already been given.

You're the only one crying about what's happening now and it's not what you expected :kobeha:

As I said enjoy the fight against lucci :kobeha:
What is this lil bro?
You dumbass ignored my other arguments?

No, Sanji can't have better portrayal than Zoro you pencil, it's been the case since the beginning of the story. Prove me wrong if you can

Read my avi and stop crying.
 
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But now Sanji is taking the best feat:milaugh:

What does that means ?
Means nothing. Zoro is far ahead of Sanji it's not even funny. Adv.coc Koh etc. all Sanji gets is kick of love 💀 tf is that. Honestly it's not really hard to see why people prefer Zoro or law to goofy and midnji :cheers:
 
Kizaru unbothered by all the top tiers and even G5 Luffy, and it was Sanji who made him react like he saw a ghost and shit his pants.

Nobody could have predicted this. Sanji damaging Kizaru would mean less than this, we saw Jozu damage Kuzan before but to make the most unbothered character in the entire series react like that is damn near out of pocket. Kizaru hardly took G5 seriously. Sanji can sit the rest of the arc out and I still think Oda glazed him too much for that 1 panel alone. Almost looks like a fanart meme drawn by a Sanji fan.
Kizaru and Franky reacted that way because blocking a laser should be impossible. Sanji is neither the strongest nor the fastest guy Kizaru has ever clashed with. It must have something to do with his Vinsmoke powers or with the drug Sora gave him. Most likely it is a Stealth Black thing, which would make sense since invisibility depends on how a body reacts to light. Unless it works that way against all DF powers, it seems to me it is no different from the Luffy vs Enel situation. Which is quite underwhelming.

It is nothing compared to what Zoro did on the rooftop. CoC, Hakai and how BM reacted to the attack that cut Onigashima's horn are on a different level
 
There's no switching up matchups

Sanji isn't fighting Lucci just because you want it for your agenda

This isn't Wano !
Also Zoro will never fight an opponent that's much above Sanji’s opponent in an arc as main fight !
What is my agenda JoNdule?

Narrative analysis and standing for all characters for the narrative that Oda brings in the story?

Luffy will defeat Saturn, there is no denying that, it won't be Bonney/Kuma/Robot like some people pretend and I already explained it in a very detailed manner why and how Luffy will do so. In short, Luffy will defeat Saturn with "Bajrang Stamp" and crush him like a spider/insect/cockroach. Kuma saw Luffy train "Gum Gum Axe" and in Hindu mythology, it is known that Bajrang Bali (Hanuman) stands on Lord Saturn by putting him under his mighty feet to assert dominance. It doesn't only make sense narratively speaking, it is the buildup that Oda is going for -> Saturn is a spider, will be crushed like an insect, with an attack that Kuma saw Luffy train, it even runs in Hindu mythology.

Question now is who is going to defeat Kizaru. You can't have Luffy defeat both Saturn and Kizaru, this is stupid nonsense. Kizaru is Saturn's subordinate. I'm letting you guess who is going after him -> Zoro.

Kizaru already had a confrontation in the past with Benn Beckman and Rayleigh, 2 other Yonko First Mates / Vice Captains, and you are still denying that Zoro is at that level, pathetic.

Why does Kizaru keep fighting with his light sword in Egghead?
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I'm really wondering why Oda keeps making the admiral use his light sword in Egghead and not "new powers" ;)













This chapter has made it very clear that Luffy will focus on Saturn and that he won't focus on Kizaru. Luffy already landed bigger attacks on Saturn than he ever did on Kizaru and Saturn was still fine. In the same chapter, it was Sanji the one who stopped Kizaru, instead of what admiral fans claimed with their "round 2 against Luffy" nonsense.

Sanji will stall and face Kizaru until Zoro comes back. Sanji will be complimented for his speed by Kizaru. Then, we may have a switch between Zoro and Sanji in their opponents that can clearly be made by Oda in one way or the other.

Egghead will mirror Sabaody:
- Kuma punched Celestial Dragon Saturn / Luffy punched a Celestial Dragon
- Kuma will be freed by warrior of liberation Nika / Luffy was freed by Kuma's hands of liberation
- Luffy will crush Celestial Dragon Saturn like an insect with his foot / Luffy punched a Celestial Dragon
- Sanji will stop Kizaru with his leg / Rayleigh stopped Kizaru with his leg
- Zoro the King of Hell will confront Kizaru with his sword / Rayleigh the Dark King confronted Kizaru with his sword
- Zoro will knock out Kizaru / Kizaru knocked out Zoro in Sabaody

There is no denying that, bring up better arguments if you disagree and stop calling it "agenda" only because it doesn't suit what you want to hear.
 
Funny thing is how much of a burden Zoro would be here if he were to join the main fight. He doesn't have the speed to hit Kizaru, he can't fly, and he can't block lasers so he can't protect Vegapunk either. He also doesn't know Saturn's abilities and would just get paralyzed if he showed up.

This is a case of a bad matchup for Zoro.
King had speed, King knew to fly, King was using fire lasers. Zoro didn't know King's abilities. And if Zoro gets paralyzed here by Saturn, everyone else also.

Genius, go read the manga once again.
 
Latrines and their 3 brain cells are unable to understand why Zoro defeating Kizaru is the most logical conclusion that a sane reader could take.

It's not about downplaying Kizaru or overhyping Zoro, it's about Zoro surpassing Kizaru before he reaches Mihawk's level and him cutting even light. Zoro always faces the 2nd strongest opponent and Luffy is facing Saturn who is > Kizaru (you can't deny that anymore).

In terms of strength, the arc villains rank as follow: Saturn > Kizaru > Lucci (Luffy > Zoro > Sanji).

Sanji stopped Kizaru's laser and it seems that he will face Kizaru temporarily.
Sanji will fight Kizaru who will be a good match up for him in terms of speed but it's not his main fight.
Zoro is currently facing Lucci but he is stalling him and not taking him seriously (2 swords, no bandana...).
Jinbe went to get Zoro so it means the fight will be interrupted.

Zoro stalling Lucci is reflecting that this fight is not his primary fight.

Sanji and Zoro will switch opponents like they did in Wano (Sanji faced King then faced Queen).
Sanji is a better matchup for Lucci than Zoro (leg vs leg, better durability and exoskeleton).
Zoro is a better matchup for Kizaru than Sanji (Kizaru has been mainly fighting with his light sword).

Zoro will get his moment against Kizaru, that's what the whole arc is setting up.
Zoro will defeat Kizaru in Egghead, which will mirror Kizaru knocking Zoro out in Sabaody.
Zoro the "King of Hell" will clash with Kizaru's lightsword, like Rayleigh the "Silver King" in Sabaody.

Zoro will cut "light".

Zoro fighting Kizaru goes even beyond that. Zoro has to channel his energy to cut light and that makes him more likely to get black blade in the future. Zoro can't just go and land an attack like "Divine Departure" because the cut is not clean and it will not cut light, it will only cut Kizaru. So, he has to learn how to channel that blade energy to make a clean cut on light.

Kizaru's awakening may make him fuse with the light element and him becoming literally light. Zoro may need to learn how to cut light, like Sanji managed to stop a laser that was pure light. That will be the challenge.

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You do you though, keep doing this circle jerking that you call "admiral agenda" and keep calling the sane readers who bring up better arguments than you guys do "deluded".

When that happens, we will be there. @mly90 and I will be there, I can guarantee you and I strongly advise you to read my avi.

Like @mly90 said: "Toxicity is reaching maximum level in the coming weeks. I foresee a lot of people running away deactivating 🤣"
Zoro ain’t doing any of this. Zoros fight this arc is Lucci.
 
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