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I'm a fan of tabletop game and I rarely see bad art mate. You must be living in another world. Artists are usually quite qualified and competent in the artistic industry when they work.
Plus, this is really a niche content.
No, the reason behind that is most likely a lack of time. Or a complete lack of knowledge of the marketing team for art people.
Therefore artist are not the problem, its - like always - those in power who are.
Its the same in video games. Unless you are looking at very independant games (with 1 to 4 people in production - that can't therefore draw and program), you will rarely have product that lacking quality if artists are left with enough time to work. The reason why you sea AI is because marketing teams wants cheaper products and don't care about the quality.
Sure, so your problem is not really art then. Its woke.. Another proof that you are dangerous.
Which lead me to believe that you can't read a proper post.
No, not in my opinion. That's a basic fact mate. You don't really follow a lot of good artist do you ?
Go take a good look around the 3D/rendering section of Artstation (be sure to check for artist who are already working in the industry, there should be a checkmark), you should be able to see the difference between random AI art and the realitic work of real artists mate.
But don't stop at the 3D/rendering, go check other type of artworks, Concept art, Illustrations etc. You will see that there is absolutely no match between the work of real artist and those of AI tech bros who play with prompts.
Sure..
Well.. Good luck besting those pieces with a prompts without stealing and feeding to AI hundreds or thousands of the works of those artists without being called out for plagiarism:
Sure, go and tell people like Karla Ortiz who is one of the biggest voice of anti AI push and a well known industry concept character designer...
... That she is a failed artist... if you dare.
Do you want to live in a world without good and impactfull art and without real creation ?
It depends
Said who ? Your facebook friend ?
Do you have actual statistics to say that ?
No it doesn't, I already gave example where its not the case. Its a pure belief. Its close to cultism to believe that technology only improves lives.
While it can do it, it doesn't necessaraly do it. Sometimes, if not regulated enough, it does the opposite. Repeating a lie twice won't make it true mate.
Not necessaraly, no.
I think you are confusing a lot of subject and not understanding why people are poor and staying poor in the first place.
Try to ask yourself that question before you go further because right now, you are completely lost in ignorant libertarian propaganda.
Why do you think that they would want to ?
Israelian deputies are literally calling for mass murder and accentuation of the genocide by explaining that every palestinians are guilty right now...
That's not leftists, those are liberals.
That's the problem with liberalism, it adapts. It can perfectly adapt to a authoritarian country if it needs to. Pink washing is the common trait of liberalism..
Both are women Einstein.
Good artist.
Was also a rapist, sexual abuser and women harrasser.
A big thanks for that
Plus, this is really a niche content.
No, the reason behind that is most likely a lack of time. Or a complete lack of knowledge of the marketing team for art people.
Therefore artist are not the problem, its - like always - those in power who are.
Its the same in video games. Unless you are looking at very independant games (with 1 to 4 people in production - that can't therefore draw and program), you will rarely have product that lacking quality if artists are left with enough time to work. The reason why you sea AI is because marketing teams wants cheaper products and don't care about the quality.
Sure, so your problem is not really art then. Its woke.. Another proof that you are dangerous.
Which lead me to believe that you can't read a proper post.
No, not in my opinion. That's a basic fact mate. You don't really follow a lot of good artist do you ?
Go take a good look around the 3D/rendering section of Artstation (be sure to check for artist who are already working in the industry, there should be a checkmark), you should be able to see the difference between random AI art and the realitic work of real artists mate.
But don't stop at the 3D/rendering, go check other type of artworks, Concept art, Illustrations etc. You will see that there is absolutely no match between the work of real artist and those of AI tech bros who play with prompts.
Sure..
Well.. Good luck besting those pieces with a prompts without stealing and feeding to AI hundreds or thousands of the works of those artists without being called out for plagiarism:
Sure, go and tell people like Karla Ortiz who is one of the biggest voice of anti AI push and a well known industry concept character designer...
... That she is a failed artist... if you dare.
Do you want to live in a world without good and impactfull art and without real creation ?
It depends
Said who ? Your facebook friend ?
Do you have actual statistics to say that ?
No it doesn't, I already gave example where its not the case. Its a pure belief. Its close to cultism to believe that technology only improves lives.
While it can do it, it doesn't necessaraly do it. Sometimes, if not regulated enough, it does the opposite. Repeating a lie twice won't make it true mate.
Not necessaraly, no.
I think you are confusing a lot of subject and not understanding why people are poor and staying poor in the first place.
Try to ask yourself that question before you go further because right now, you are completely lost in ignorant libertarian propaganda.
Why do you think that they would want to ?
Israelian deputies are literally calling for mass murder and accentuation of the genocide by explaining that every palestinians are guilty right now...
That's not leftists, those are liberals.
That's the problem with liberalism, it adapts. It can perfectly adapt to a authoritarian country if it needs to. Pink washing is the common trait of liberalism..
Both are women Einstein.
Good artist.
Was also a rapist, sexual abuser and women harrasser.
A big thanks for that
What is the percentage of those artists whose art have "made" it vs those artists who are still in the middle of their careers, struggling to make ends meet (becoming a full time artist and making decent income)?
Examples of art like that may be done by top notch artists and character designers whose skills may fetch much higher prices than normal, but the "supply" of those artists with that level of skill may not necessarily meet the demands of people who need such services.
Thus, speed of production as well as its convenience makes AI art a tempting options for artists needing to take "inspiration" for character/environment design + people who require art to be quickly made from scratch.
Examples of art like that may be done by top notch artists and character designers whose skills may fetch much higher prices than normal, but the "supply" of those artists with that level of skill may not necessarily meet the demands of people who need such services.
Thus, speed of production as well as its convenience makes AI art a tempting options for artists needing to take "inspiration" for character/environment design + people who require art to be quickly made from scratch.
Professionnal artists are not supposed to be simple drawers. I gave you here not only top notch artist example, but also one example of a an actual studiant. Professionnal are supposed to be really competent. And usually the place where artists will have a hard time competing is the movie/gaming industry. In those place, it might be indeed very hard to compete.
But AI, even in those place, is not the solution. SImply because AI do not creates, it copies, and in those jobs, people needs creators, problem solvers, real illustrators.. not simple printing machines.
In time, I really believe that marketing teams are bound to understand that AI will only create lower value IP and content as they are not meant ot solve problems or create, but simply copy, but during that time, they might put thousands of artists in the streets and killing the entire economy in the process.
And its the same for artist. ANy artist will tell you that there is no such thing as drawing made from scratch, there is always a reference and inspirations. But to evolve, we can't rely on AI, we need to understand how reality work and trust me, this is very hard, I'm not even halfway yet myself. Relying on AI for production is not helping the creative process. Not mentionning the fact that it would be a creating things on the basis of other's creations and stolen work.
But AI, even in those place, is not the solution. SImply because AI do not creates, it copies, and in those jobs, people needs creators, problem solvers, real illustrators.. not simple printing machines.
In time, I really believe that marketing teams are bound to understand that AI will only create lower value IP and content as they are not meant ot solve problems or create, but simply copy, but during that time, they might put thousands of artists in the streets and killing the entire economy in the process.
And its the same for artist. ANy artist will tell you that there is no such thing as drawing made from scratch, there is always a reference and inspirations. But to evolve, we can't rely on AI, we need to understand how reality work and trust me, this is very hard, I'm not even halfway yet myself. Relying on AI for production is not helping the creative process. Not mentionning the fact that it would be a creating things on the basis of other's creations and stolen work.
There are concerns in the writing community about AI. Not too long ago KDP set rules to help fight against it. The market is being flooded with low content and even novels created by AI. They set rules where you have to identify if you used AI in creation. Book cover creators have taken a hit because so many people are opting to use AI-created covers instead of paying a person to create one for them.
In general, the products by AI aren't as well created or written as that of people, but it still causes an issue because of the massive amount flooding the industry. It's hard to find a great creation of a person when no one is going through hundreds of published works to find legit authors.
I can't predict the future, but in the short term, AI seems to hurt people and the act of creation overall.
In general, the products by AI aren't as well created or written as that of people, but it still causes an issue because of the massive amount flooding the industry. It's hard to find a great creation of a person when no one is going through hundreds of published works to find legit authors.
I can't predict the future, but in the short term, AI seems to hurt people and the act of creation overall.
Current LLM models sucks . There is no way AI will ever interprete Human thoughts and logic .
You need to train the model it require huge computational power imagine how much GPU are even required to require AI to work perfectly .
There is no way AI will completely replace especially literature industry . Long way to go .
You need to train the model it require huge computational power imagine how much GPU are even required to require AI to work perfectly .
There is no way AI will completely replace especially literature industry . Long way to go .
I'm telling you what is happening at this very moment, though. The system is flooded with these AI-generated products that authors can't get their works discovered by readers amongst them. Even those who authored their work are turning to free AI book designs rather than paying someone who creates them professionally. There are even people who advertise AI art work, for a fraction of the cost.
I'm sure other fields are experiencing the same issues with it. Why pay for great work, when you can get free passable work? I experimented with AI-generated book covers for a while and some of them weren't bad and would have the desired effect of drawing attention.
I'm sure other fields are experiencing the same issues with it. Why pay for great work, when you can get free passable work? I experimented with AI-generated book covers for a while and some of them weren't bad and would have the desired effect of drawing attention.
Earlier this month I was doing research for a program that would help me keep everything in my writing organized to prevent inconsistencies and I had to go through a slew of AI generation programs offering to do work for me before I came to the actual solutions I was looking for.
It's a big uproar in the communities I'm a part of right now. Every day at least five posts from those who are supporting it or damning it.
It has a place as a more useful search engine and has helped me find information that was hard to locate through traditional searches.
It's a big uproar in the communities I'm a part of right now. Every day at least five posts from those who are supporting it or damning it.
It has a place as a more useful search engine and has helped me find information that was hard to locate through traditional searches.
Im sure that you are crazy enough to ignore reality. Specially when my complaint was a indirect jab at Onix Path and their methods. Im sure that you didn't even bother to google people complaining about the shit art in their products.
If you deliberately ignore reality you will not lie when defending your point.
Yeah, I'm sure that you can go to the post I replied and find the proof. It's not something in your head or anything.
Again, in your opinion. Specially in the market that I was talking to. Go to any /slop thread in TG and ask why they use it and plenty of people will say that the end result is better and faster than the actual professionals in the area.
Can you please show proof that she shares prompts of other artists instead of focusing on her work? Because what you stated was that the ''artists'' would do that.
If she does what you stated? Yes.
That explains it. For someone that accused me of gas lighting, she loves to take comments out of context and dismiss arguments by insulting the person or directly lying. Those fallacies are usually done by woman or men trying (and failing) to be woman.
Can you please find a post of mine that even hints at that? Or that I love war at all?
If you deliberately ignore reality you will not lie when defending your point.
Yeah, I'm sure that you can go to the post I replied and find the proof. It's not something in your head or anything.
Again, in your opinion. Specially in the market that I was talking to. Go to any /slop thread in TG and ask why they use it and plenty of people will say that the end result is better and faster than the actual professionals in the area.
Can you please show proof that she shares prompts of other artists instead of focusing on her work? Because what you stated was that the ''artists'' would do that.
If she does what you stated? Yes.
That explains it. For someone that accused me of gas lighting, she loves to take comments out of context and dismiss arguments by insulting the person or directly lying. Those fallacies are usually done by woman or men trying (and failing) to be woman.
He thinks all men love war and if someone doesn't love war they can't be a man
typical masculinism
typical masculinism