General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
No he can't. At least if Oda stays Oda.
Indeed. Being a guardian is not Yamato's theme, its Yamato's role given by the story.. Granted, you could also called it a "sub"thematic if you really want to add the word.
The difference between a real thematic and a sub thematic is that the sub thematic is only connecting some of the dots of the character while the thematic is connecting all of them.
Yamato doesn't really have a core thematic associated to her character unlike the strawhats. While she is an interesting character with an interesting characterization, she is the result of multiple sub-thematic and not one or two big and major arching thematic:
- The notion of choice
- The notion of freedom
- The notion of responsibility
- The notion of guardianship
- The notion of inherited will
If you compare to the strawhats, its a no match.
Not necessaraly. It's first the capacity of protection. It can take a lots of faces.
If she is not able to stay at all time with the Sunny, its simple not possible.
This role is not really relevant unless you created a story completely based on the thematic of protection and the deep personnal reasons behind this wish to protect things. And you must also find a way to make the strawhats split themself to go on the adventure as keeping the strawhat with the ship at all times defeat the purpose of the story.
Therefore if Oda wanted to write Yamato as a real guardianfor the ship, as a real and meaningfull role, he would have needed to follow the step I described back in the posts above (at least in the outlining phase) and completely rewrite the story of Yamato.
Yamato might come back, but she won't be a strawhat I'm sorry.
The two closest persons to have a chance to be a strawhat right now are Bonney and Carrot.
No mate... you don't understand.
Its because I understand perfectly what Oda wrote and because I've a clear understanding on the way he writes the strawhats that I can say without a doubt what I've told you. Building a strawhat, or any as powerful character as them for that matter, can't be done simply by adding elements or strong thematic, we need to literally create the character FROM the thematic.
In storytelling when crafting a character, we build from the inside to the outside. Meaning that the story will be going the opposite way, from the outside to the inside.
In short, the best characters are build like a tornado spiriling around a core thematic/choices/vision of the world.
This is only partially the case for Yamato while this is completely the case for characters like the strawhats. There is no way around this pattern as long as Oda will stay Oda and will keep his narrative consistancy.
No. Unless you manage to make the paw paw fruit duplicate the character, there is always a split moment where the Sunny will be vulnerable and if its the purpose of the Sunny to be protected and attacked, then the ennemies will always find a way to attack if there is no one there.
Again, a guardian must be a REAL guardian, not a grasshoper.
And ?
It would only means that the next Paw paw fruit user might have a potential will to help the strawhats, that's all, it will not completely override the characterization of the character, that would go against core thematic of One Piece once again. Characters don't simply change because they eat the devil fruit, the transferance of the "will" is metaphorical not physical. People finds fruit because either its their destiny to find it or the fruit and existence itself make them find them.
The fruits are not living beings - at least not in our knowledge - they do not override the personnalities of the characters. They have histories and particularities (like LUffy smiling being of his fruit in G5) but that's all.
In other words, for a character to want to protect the Sunny at all cost, said character would need to have a DEEP PERSONNAL REASON to :
- Help the strawhats
- Specifically protect the Sunny
And to create that, you can simply make the character follow the strawhats because the character like them.. Its would be completely irrelevant, not consistant with the writing of the strawhat so far and not powerful at all.
The character would need a strong link not only to the strawhats, but to the ship itself. And a REAL characterization SPIRILING around the thematic of protection and its flaws.
Indeed. That's why I not only use the term "Sentry" for Carrot as it is more fitting for her role, just like "marksman or Sniper" is more fitting for Usopp than Gunner.
A post doesn't need to be mentionned early in the story to be accessible. It only needs to be relevant in term of storytelling when said post is put into action and a character is showing the characteristic and thematic that can be linked with said post.
There are already giants in the grand fleet, there won't be anymore member at least not in term of captains
Indeed. Being a guardian is not Yamato's theme, its Yamato's role given by the story.. Granted, you could also called it a "sub"thematic if you really want to add the word.
The difference between a real thematic and a sub thematic is that the sub thematic is only connecting some of the dots of the character while the thematic is connecting all of them.
Yamato doesn't really have a core thematic associated to her character unlike the strawhats. While she is an interesting character with an interesting characterization, she is the result of multiple sub-thematic and not one or two big and major arching thematic:
- The notion of choice
- The notion of freedom
- The notion of responsibility
- The notion of guardianship
- The notion of inherited will
If you compare to the strawhats, its a no match.
Not necessaraly. It's first the capacity of protection. It can take a lots of faces.
If she is not able to stay at all time with the Sunny, its simple not possible.
This role is not really relevant unless you created a story completely based on the thematic of protection and the deep personnal reasons behind this wish to protect things. And you must also find a way to make the strawhats split themself to go on the adventure as keeping the strawhat with the ship at all times defeat the purpose of the story.
Therefore if Oda wanted to write Yamato as a real guardianfor the ship, as a real and meaningfull role, he would have needed to follow the step I described back in the posts above (at least in the outlining phase) and completely rewrite the story of Yamato.
Yamato might come back, but she won't be a strawhat I'm sorry.
The two closest persons to have a chance to be a strawhat right now are Bonney and Carrot.
No mate... you don't understand.
Its because I understand perfectly what Oda wrote and because I've a clear understanding on the way he writes the strawhats that I can say without a doubt what I've told you. Building a strawhat, or any as powerful character as them for that matter, can't be done simply by adding elements or strong thematic, we need to literally create the character FROM the thematic.
In storytelling when crafting a character, we build from the inside to the outside. Meaning that the story will be going the opposite way, from the outside to the inside.
In short, the best characters are build like a tornado spiriling around a core thematic/choices/vision of the world.
This is only partially the case for Yamato while this is completely the case for characters like the strawhats. There is no way around this pattern as long as Oda will stay Oda and will keep his narrative consistancy.
No. Unless you manage to make the paw paw fruit duplicate the character, there is always a split moment where the Sunny will be vulnerable and if its the purpose of the Sunny to be protected and attacked, then the ennemies will always find a way to attack if there is no one there.
Again, a guardian must be a REAL guardian, not a grasshoper.
And ?
It would only means that the next Paw paw fruit user might have a potential will to help the strawhats, that's all, it will not completely override the characterization of the character, that would go against core thematic of One Piece once again. Characters don't simply change because they eat the devil fruit, the transferance of the "will" is metaphorical not physical. People finds fruit because either its their destiny to find it or the fruit and existence itself make them find them.
The fruits are not living beings - at least not in our knowledge - they do not override the personnalities of the characters. They have histories and particularities (like LUffy smiling being of his fruit in G5) but that's all.
In other words, for a character to want to protect the Sunny at all cost, said character would need to have a DEEP PERSONNAL REASON to :
- Help the strawhats
- Specifically protect the Sunny
And to create that, you can simply make the character follow the strawhats because the character like them.. Its would be completely irrelevant, not consistant with the writing of the strawhat so far and not powerful at all.
The character would need a strong link not only to the strawhats, but to the ship itself. And a REAL characterization SPIRILING around the thematic of protection and its flaws.
Indeed. That's why I not only use the term "Sentry" for Carrot as it is more fitting for her role, just like "marksman or Sniper" is more fitting for Usopp than Gunner.
A post doesn't need to be mentionned early in the story to be accessible. It only needs to be relevant in term of storytelling when said post is put into action and a character is showing the characteristic and thematic that can be linked with said post.
There are already giants in the grand fleet, there won't be anymore member at least not in term of captains
I shouldn't have to say this, I depise authoritarian arguments.. but when you completely ignore a demonstration based on narrative data, I don't have much of a choice.. ALl I can say is "I know what I'm talking about, I'm not speaking on a whim"
I might be wrong on a lot of things, but on storytelling, its very unlikely.
This is not impossible. but I would find it odd. I think the strenght of the giant crew of the fleet is its small number specifically.
Oh ? Maybe, I completely forgot that.
I won't exclude the possibility of new giant joining the fleet then.
Good question. I've explained that in that post:
The things you must retain, the real "lesson" I wanted to give here about storytelling.. is that when a writer create a story, they create it with a specific "style". This "style" is what makes the writer shine in comparison to other artists. The style in storytelling is not only the way they write words, it uncompass a LOT of parameters:
- How you structure your story
- How you create emotions
- How you create your protagonist
- The personnals theme you are used in your story
- The way you creates secondary characters
- The way you make your protagonist shine through the plot
- The way you arrange your plot from the introduction to the climax
- The way you structure B-C plot lines and the way you make them interact with the main plotline
- The way you milk the thematic of the story in its every aspect (characters/situations/environments/plot etc.)
- How you write dialogues
- How you create rythm through panellin (for mangakas)
- How do you explain your magic/fighting/power systems through the narration
ETC.
There are a thousands of parameters to create a specific style. And Oda's style is extremelly pronounced. Meaning that Oda's style is so powerful that it can even be seen and shine through other styles (when for example the manga was adapted in Live action).
One Piece forged me. Quiete literally. So I've tried pretty much all my life to understand why Oda impacts me so much. During that process, I've come to understand through trial and error and the analysis of the case of Carrot and the comparison with my actual knowledge about storytelling, this specific style that Oda is using and why its so different than the style of Tolkien, Rowling or much closer.. Horikoshi (for ex.).
I do not understand everything, there are a lot of things that I still need to figure out about his style, but I'm seeing through the core principles.
So..
Like I said in the QUOTED post, one of the particularity of this amazing style is the obsession of Oda with patterns. And this is logical, the usage of pattern technically restrict the range of what it is possible to create... but all artist know that constrain is the mother of creativity. So it is possible that Oda is using willingly basic pattern as a way to create basic archetypes of characters that he will later develop.
For example, Law.
This character fits one big pattern boxe: The cynic rival.
This is a type of character that will be helping the strawhats not because of the strawhats but because of their own desires and motivations which will give them most of the time a really edgy characterization. Those characters are:
- Law
- Smoker
- Kidd
- Crocodile in Impel Down
- Lucci in Egg Head
Pretty basic archetype of character. But Oda is using that archetype to expend their story and characterization in order to make them into unforgettable character. To so much extense that they can also have an entire character journey like Law.
This is just an exemple (and I forgot a few categories in my quoted post) but this can be said for most of the characters (strawhats included).
Notice how characters in One Piece are very HARD to forget. THe reason is that specific usage of strong character archetype. When mixed with a strong character traits, characters who are sometimes one dimensionnal are shining through the story.
(it very possible that Oda is creating pattern inconsciously, this is a possibility)
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How do I know this ? Simply because I've put work to understand the story deeply and not just analysing it like most youtuber are doing.
I can be wrong on the future of the story (and gladly so, because it wouldn't be fun anymore if I wasn't) but when I say something very specific about the narration like the fact that Oda is using the thematics of wonder and vision in the quasi entierity of chapter 888 to enhance Carrot's characterization and her place at her post, I'm not inventing anything:
- I'm first asking myself the question of the purpose of this chapter in the narration of whole cake
- I understand that this chapter is focused on Carrot
- I link the common experience of the readers with the words of the characters seeing character and notice that its all about mysticism, magic and wonder.
- I relate this information with already preexisting data showing that Carrot is mainly constructed around the search of wonder. Mainly because of her interaction with the crew and her SECOND introduction
- I understand that with the transformation its this time not Carrot who sees the world but the world who sees Carrot
- I therefore come to the hypothesis that the Sulong transformation was firstly thought for Carrot.
- I verify the narrative construction of Carrot and the Sulong transformation to see if this hypothesis has a good ground:
- First I notice that the Sulong transformation is forshadowed multiple times during Zou therefore concluding because of my experience with Oda's writing, that he already had a good idea of what this transformation might be
- Second I notice that Carrot was not introduced once, but two times. Firstly showing her look out and cold blooded skills (the skill and personnality she depicted during the Sulong) and secondly to show the bright wonder seeking side of her personnality.
- Third I notice how Oda depicted Carrot in Zou. She was the first mink to appear (for the story of Zou) and since then she stayed a compagnon for the entierity of the trip. Oda going so far to create a specific ruling bird status that would allow the characters to go willingly toward the king of the day and king of the night.
- Fourth, I notice that the role of Carrot in whole cake iscircling around her role between the crew and the lookout post and the notion that anyone who waits has their turn eventually
- Those four informations are leading me to conclude that Oda already had in mind in the beginning of Zou the fact that Carrot would be a character that would accompagny the strawhats and shine in Whole Cake through the Sulong transformation.
- In fact I'm going farther to say that Carrot was constructed to depict the Sulong from the beginning or that the Sulong was constructed to make Carrot shine.
- In both case I conclude that the characterization of Carrot and the thematic of Wonder are central to understand chapter 888
- I notice that the place of Carrot in this chapter is the look out post and that the lookout post is THE place of the transformation
- I create the hypothesis that the post of Carrot might be also linked thematically to the transformation
- I notice all the allusion to the lookout post during this chapter
- I notice the fact that most character are seeing Carrot through binocular just like Carrot is using them to see the world
- I remember that this post was first taken by Pedro
- I remember that the moment of the death Pedro was for Carrot the moment she remembered his words about the strawhats and herself.
- I conclude that during whole cake, there was a implicite passing of the torch between Pedro and Carrot in term of character. This is reaffirmated by the fact that Carrot in chapter 888 is explaining that she is acting like Pedro would in her situation.
- I also conclude that this passing of torch is also showed through the post of look out as the revelation for Carrot's future comes on this post also.
- With those information I can therefore safely say that the transformation of Carrot is also linked to her post, which is something that can be also explain symbolically by the fact that the lookout post is literally a representation of Carrot's character. Its passive and full of wonder for the surrounding during the day and completely cold, active and majestuous in front of the moon and danger.
- Notice that I concluded all of this without even thinking about Carrot as a strawhat yet.
- In conclusion, I can say that the look out post, being a post using the notion of "seeing" is central in chapter 888 just as much as Carrot and her transformation.
This is an simple example where I can say "I know" because I have ALL the elements to know. I'm not inventing those elements I deduce them from the narration and my own experience. Weither those elements are put pursposefully or not by Oda in the story, they are still creating all those patterns and thematics. They are therefore important to understand why some parts of the story are the way they are.
--- Now...
Considering HOW i would do it. I simply need to extrapolate what I learned from Oda and his patterns and do this:
I noticed that I made quite a few mistake in the first writing of this specific quote so I understand why it wasn't well understood.
I hope you understand now why it is important to have a character with a REAL thematic instead of a character with a simple addition of multiple sub thematics.
I might be wrong on a lot of things, but on storytelling, its very unlikely.
This is not impossible. but I would find it odd. I think the strenght of the giant crew of the fleet is its small number specifically.
Oh ? Maybe, I completely forgot that.
I won't exclude the possibility of new giant joining the fleet then.
Good question. I've explained that in that post:
The things you must retain, the real "lesson" I wanted to give here about storytelling.. is that when a writer create a story, they create it with a specific "style". This "style" is what makes the writer shine in comparison to other artists. The style in storytelling is not only the way they write words, it uncompass a LOT of parameters:
- How you structure your story
- How you create emotions
- How you create your protagonist
- The personnals theme you are used in your story
- The way you creates secondary characters
- The way you make your protagonist shine through the plot
- The way you arrange your plot from the introduction to the climax
- The way you structure B-C plot lines and the way you make them interact with the main plotline
- The way you milk the thematic of the story in its every aspect (characters/situations/environments/plot etc.)
- How you write dialogues
- How you create rythm through panellin (for mangakas)
- How do you explain your magic/fighting/power systems through the narration
ETC.
There are a thousands of parameters to create a specific style. And Oda's style is extremelly pronounced. Meaning that Oda's style is so powerful that it can even be seen and shine through other styles (when for example the manga was adapted in Live action).
One Piece forged me. Quiete literally. So I've tried pretty much all my life to understand why Oda impacts me so much. During that process, I've come to understand through trial and error and the analysis of the case of Carrot and the comparison with my actual knowledge about storytelling, this specific style that Oda is using and why its so different than the style of Tolkien, Rowling or much closer.. Horikoshi (for ex.).
I do not understand everything, there are a lot of things that I still need to figure out about his style, but I'm seeing through the core principles.
So..
Like I said in the QUOTED post, one of the particularity of this amazing style is the obsession of Oda with patterns. And this is logical, the usage of pattern technically restrict the range of what it is possible to create... but all artist know that constrain is the mother of creativity. So it is possible that Oda is using willingly basic pattern as a way to create basic archetypes of characters that he will later develop.
For example, Law.
This character fits one big pattern boxe: The cynic rival.
This is a type of character that will be helping the strawhats not because of the strawhats but because of their own desires and motivations which will give them most of the time a really edgy characterization. Those characters are:
- Law
- Smoker
- Kidd
- Crocodile in Impel Down
- Lucci in Egg Head
Pretty basic archetype of character. But Oda is using that archetype to expend their story and characterization in order to make them into unforgettable character. To so much extense that they can also have an entire character journey like Law.
This is just an exemple (and I forgot a few categories in my quoted post) but this can be said for most of the characters (strawhats included).
Notice how characters in One Piece are very HARD to forget. THe reason is that specific usage of strong character archetype. When mixed with a strong character traits, characters who are sometimes one dimensionnal are shining through the story.
(it very possible that Oda is creating pattern inconsciously, this is a possibility)
-----
How do I know this ? Simply because I've put work to understand the story deeply and not just analysing it like most youtuber are doing.
I can be wrong on the future of the story (and gladly so, because it wouldn't be fun anymore if I wasn't) but when I say something very specific about the narration like the fact that Oda is using the thematics of wonder and vision in the quasi entierity of chapter 888 to enhance Carrot's characterization and her place at her post, I'm not inventing anything:
- I'm first asking myself the question of the purpose of this chapter in the narration of whole cake
- I understand that this chapter is focused on Carrot
- I link the common experience of the readers with the words of the characters seeing character and notice that its all about mysticism, magic and wonder.
- I relate this information with already preexisting data showing that Carrot is mainly constructed around the search of wonder. Mainly because of her interaction with the crew and her SECOND introduction
- I understand that with the transformation its this time not Carrot who sees the world but the world who sees Carrot
- I therefore come to the hypothesis that the Sulong transformation was firstly thought for Carrot.
- I verify the narrative construction of Carrot and the Sulong transformation to see if this hypothesis has a good ground:
- First I notice that the Sulong transformation is forshadowed multiple times during Zou therefore concluding because of my experience with Oda's writing, that he already had a good idea of what this transformation might be
- Second I notice that Carrot was not introduced once, but two times. Firstly showing her look out and cold blooded skills (the skill and personnality she depicted during the Sulong) and secondly to show the bright wonder seeking side of her personnality.
- Third I notice how Oda depicted Carrot in Zou. She was the first mink to appear (for the story of Zou) and since then she stayed a compagnon for the entierity of the trip. Oda going so far to create a specific ruling bird status that would allow the characters to go willingly toward the king of the day and king of the night.
- Fourth, I notice that the role of Carrot in whole cake iscircling around her role between the crew and the lookout post and the notion that anyone who waits has their turn eventually
- Those four informations are leading me to conclude that Oda already had in mind in the beginning of Zou the fact that Carrot would be a character that would accompagny the strawhats and shine in Whole Cake through the Sulong transformation.
- In fact I'm going farther to say that Carrot was constructed to depict the Sulong from the beginning or that the Sulong was constructed to make Carrot shine.
- In both case I conclude that the characterization of Carrot and the thematic of Wonder are central to understand chapter 888
- I notice that the place of Carrot in this chapter is the look out post and that the lookout post is THE place of the transformation
- I create the hypothesis that the post of Carrot might be also linked thematically to the transformation
- I notice all the allusion to the lookout post during this chapter
- I notice the fact that most character are seeing Carrot through binocular just like Carrot is using them to see the world
- I remember that this post was first taken by Pedro
- I remember that the moment of the death Pedro was for Carrot the moment she remembered his words about the strawhats and herself.
- I conclude that during whole cake, there was a implicite passing of the torch between Pedro and Carrot in term of character. This is reaffirmated by the fact that Carrot in chapter 888 is explaining that she is acting like Pedro would in her situation.
- I also conclude that this passing of torch is also showed through the post of look out as the revelation for Carrot's future comes on this post also.
- With those information I can therefore safely say that the transformation of Carrot is also linked to her post, which is something that can be also explain symbolically by the fact that the lookout post is literally a representation of Carrot's character. Its passive and full of wonder for the surrounding during the day and completely cold, active and majestuous in front of the moon and danger.
- Notice that I concluded all of this without even thinking about Carrot as a strawhat yet.
- In conclusion, I can say that the look out post, being a post using the notion of "seeing" is central in chapter 888 just as much as Carrot and her transformation.
This is an simple example where I can say "I know" because I have ALL the elements to know. I'm not inventing those elements I deduce them from the narration and my own experience. Weither those elements are put pursposefully or not by Oda in the story, they are still creating all those patterns and thematics. They are therefore important to understand why some parts of the story are the way they are.
--- Now...
Considering HOW i would do it. I simply need to extrapolate what I learned from Oda and his patterns and do this:
I noticed that I made quite a few mistake in the first writing of this specific quote so I understand why it wasn't well understood.
I hope you understand now why it is important to have a character with a REAL thematic instead of a character with a simple addition of multiple sub thematics.
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Guys, i gonna roleplay as yuderon:
Prediction for chapter 1109
First we see chapter 19.
The title for that chater is "devil fruit"
There we can see an image luffy open the mouth of a hippo. As you guys can see could be this related to our local hippo aka wapol and someone that was hiding in it before ?
In this chapter we can also see buggy eat his devil fruit.
Would be someone in this chapter gonna find and eat devil fruit too?
And then we check the reverse,chapter 91
The title is "darts"
In this chapter would we see aftermath of the marine escape from hachinosu?
Also there also scene of arlong attacking from under water
Would we see someone or something attacking from under the water? Marine torpedo or something?
We continue to chapter 109 with the title "Question of duty", would someone questioning his duty in this chapter? Would it be kizaru? Or maybe lucci?
Here we can see both koby and helmepo crying with title named we're so useless, would we see they blaming themself for garp aftermath?
Here we also see first appearance of karoo
Would we see what happen to karoo after vivi left?
And here also we see vivi legendary technique
Will we see sexy vivi use that skill again to trick someone?( damn i hope so).
And we also see the chapter 901 titled
"Don"t let even death stop you"
This probably be vegapunk mesage that will still air even after his death.
And we also see
We see female giant in a ship with large weapon, are yamato gonna show up? or this about woman that recently escape from wg?
In this chapter we also see
Someone cant abandon people they care about? Sound familiar?
Are luffy gonna recruit someone new? Or someone gonna proclaimed they are luffy crew?
Will someone waiting for strawhat instead in somewhere?
Together with morgan that actually support luffy to be the next PK.
Thats all from vivi4nakama agenda this week, see you later, thanks for reading.
Prediction for chapter 1109
First we see chapter 19.
The title for that chater is "devil fruit"
There we can see an image luffy open the mouth of a hippo. As you guys can see could be this related to our local hippo aka wapol and someone that was hiding in it before ?
In this chapter we can also see buggy eat his devil fruit.
Would be someone in this chapter gonna find and eat devil fruit too?
And then we check the reverse,chapter 91
The title is "darts"
In this chapter would we see aftermath of the marine escape from hachinosu?
Also there also scene of arlong attacking from under water
Would we see someone or something attacking from under the water? Marine torpedo or something?
We continue to chapter 109 with the title "Question of duty", would someone questioning his duty in this chapter? Would it be kizaru? Or maybe lucci?
Here we can see both koby and helmepo crying with title named we're so useless, would we see they blaming themself for garp aftermath?
Here we also see first appearance of karoo
Would we see what happen to karoo after vivi left?
And here also we see vivi legendary technique
Will we see sexy vivi use that skill again to trick someone?( damn i hope so).
And we also see the chapter 901 titled
"Don"t let even death stop you"
This probably be vegapunk mesage that will still air even after his death.
And we also see
We see female giant in a ship with large weapon, are yamato gonna show up? or this about woman that recently escape from wg?
In this chapter we also see
Someone cant abandon people they care about? Sound familiar?
Are luffy gonna recruit someone new? Or someone gonna proclaimed they are luffy crew?
Will someone waiting for strawhat instead in somewhere?
Together with morgan that actually support luffy to be the next PK.
Thats all from vivi4nakama agenda this week, see you later, thanks for reading.
Just dropping by to remind you all that no one from our agendas joined so far and it's all Luffy Piece till the very end!
I legit give up on +1. I finally heard all the voices saying "but SHP don't do much on panel anyways" and you know what, I agree, I was really hoping to get another cool SH, but seeing how Oda's favourite boi Zoro gets his fight off-panelled, Oda's favourite girl Nami is stuck doing nothing and is also mostly off-panelled, why do we even want a new SH for? Let's say, Bonney joins and becomes an apprentice, what kind of scene's will we get?
Her stuffing her face with pizza alongside Luffy and Sanji who cooked that pizza, ok, a brief moment of calm. But during an island arc, what will she do? Get stuck with Chopper and Usopp, b/c now we know she's a child and most likely she won't be fighting anyone? So running away, or hiding, or asking for help, we already have Usopp, Nami and Chopper trio, it's gonna get overloaded.
Okay, not Bonney, let's think about someone strong, idk, Law, because why not entertain the the idea at this point. Law is strong, and smart, basically Zoro+Sanji in one character, now what do we get? In the moment of calm he might be interested in bonding with Robin, who is very knowledgeable and might shed some light on the D. But then again, our usual island chaos arc? Running, clashing with the big bads, getting off-panelled, all in favour for Luffy to spam his Nika (and being appalled by Luffy's orders). You know what, I don't want Law anymore as s part of SHP, he's better off on his own.
So I officially switch off my only serious vote "+1" in the poll and from now on support only Meme nakama Piece, because it's at least fun while it lasts for a couple of panels.
I legit give up on +1. I finally heard all the voices saying "but SHP don't do much on panel anyways" and you know what, I agree, I was really hoping to get another cool SH, but seeing how Oda's favourite boi Zoro gets his fight off-panelled, Oda's favourite girl Nami is stuck doing nothing and is also mostly off-panelled, why do we even want a new SH for? Let's say, Bonney joins and becomes an apprentice, what kind of scene's will we get?
Her stuffing her face with pizza alongside Luffy and Sanji who cooked that pizza, ok, a brief moment of calm. But during an island arc, what will she do? Get stuck with Chopper and Usopp, b/c now we know she's a child and most likely she won't be fighting anyone? So running away, or hiding, or asking for help, we already have Usopp, Nami and Chopper trio, it's gonna get overloaded.
Okay, not Bonney, let's think about someone strong, idk, Law, because why not entertain the the idea at this point. Law is strong, and smart, basically Zoro+Sanji in one character, now what do we get? In the moment of calm he might be interested in bonding with Robin, who is very knowledgeable and might shed some light on the D. But then again, our usual island chaos arc? Running, clashing with the big bads, getting off-panelled, all in favour for Luffy to spam his Nika (and being appalled by Luffy's orders). You know what, I don't want Law anymore as s part of SHP, he's better off on his own.
So I officially switch off my only serious vote "+1" in the poll and from now on support only Meme nakama Piece, because it's at least fun while it lasts for a couple of panels.
East Blue
Zoro (M)
Nami (F)
Usopp (M)
Sanji (M)
Grand Line Paradise
Chopper (M)
Robin (F)
Franky (M)
Brook (M)
New World
Jinbei (M)
Bonney? (F)
... (M)
... (M)
The pattern is widely speculated on.
As for my personal head canon you could add that the last 4 will be
Shichibukai
Supernova
...
...
RA? WG? Marine? Royalty? I would love Smoker on the crew + 1 more.
Zoro (M)
Nami (F)
Usopp (M)
Sanji (M)
Grand Line Paradise
Chopper (M)
Robin (F)
Franky (M)
Brook (M)
New World
Jinbei (M)
Bonney? (F)
... (M)
... (M)
The pattern is widely speculated on.
As for my personal head canon you could add that the last 4 will be
Shichibukai
Supernova
...
...
RA? WG? Marine? Royalty? I would love Smoker on the crew + 1 more.
Current candidates so trash that people are still clamoring for a Yamato or Carrot comeback
To be frank, I don't really expect much from LOda anymore in regards to future candidates considering his writing these days, and even if they join they'll just end up as flanderized background filler.Smoker is cool but I doubt he would ever abandon the Marines, except for maybe joining SWORD. Oda really needs to give the guy more screentime.
