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So the editor just made that up? It is possible Oda had more than one plan before settling on the final script.
Editor doesn't get to decide what's too early and what is not. Oda scrapped the Crystal Voyage script Because it wasn't too exciting for the young audience, not because it was too early.
And Oda planned for Zoro to visit Ryuma's grave, and Zoro never visited Ryuma's grave. Oda also said he wanted to have Luffy beat Kaido without a big punch, and look where we are.
Editor doesn't get to decide what's too early and what is not. Oda scrapped the Crystal Voyage script Because it wasn't too exciting for the young audience, not because it was too early.
And Oda planned for Zoro to visit Ryuma's grave, and Zoro never visited Ryuma's grave. Oda also said he wanted to have Luffy beat Kaido without a big punch, and look where we are.
When did this project get off the ground?
It was right when the comic reached the tenth anniversary so more than two years ago. But I was way too busy with the comic during the tenth year and really didn’t do much for the films. So after I somehow made it through the tenth anniversary the movie was still on my plate and it was a rush job to finish the plot which at first I called, “The Crystal Ship’s Log”. Then when I finally thought it was settled, there was something that didn’t sit well with me about it… Just at the stage when the entire plot had been lined up I said, “Um, actually, I’d like to nix this.”, and so it came down to, “Well, there’s no way we’re ever going to make our scheduled release in March.”
-Speaking of that, when it was still in “The Crystal Ship’s Log” stage, what did you plan it to be about?
The very first thing I thought was, “I’ve gotta be able to do something here that only I can do.” In other words, since I’m the author, what could I use that prerogative to create? I mean, that was the entire purpose of my involvement. I came to the conclusion that since the only person allowed to mess with the very core of the characters is me, I thought about doing something related to the origin of Luffy; going way back, a story that happened around just before Luffy began training with Ace. It was devoted to Luffy’s memories during that period, about a certain special animal he met around that time and it all came around to link up with modern Luffy…a real emotional story with a big chunk devoted to memories.
But as I was in the middle of writing it I started to worry, “Is this kind of cushy story the kind of thing I would really want to see?” I don’t believe I’ve ever written something purely for the purpose of making a ‘good story’. If that’s something that happens in the comic the overall story has to be longer and then I don’t mind a ‘good story’ in there among other things as a dash of spice, however, for something as short as a movie, if I just made a ‘good story’ it all came down to where I could fit in the kinds of things boys really want to see: action and strong characters.
-After all it’s a given that your primary audience is boys.
And so I thought, “I should make a movie filled with the kind of stuff they actually want to see and when it’s over, they’ll be left with lots of memorable scenes.” Things that boys will remember are ‘cool scenes’. I had just churned out this touching story but no matter how ‘good’ a story it was, the only people that would probably enjoy it were adults. And that’s not my role. I draw comics for boys. I realized in the middle of it all, “I might’ve misunderstood what everyone was expecting.” It wasn’t the kind of thing I wanted to write anyway, so even if there was a call for something emotional, I didn’t have to please everyone asking for that. Starting from scratch I fixed the theme on ‘excitement’ and from the planning to the setting, changed it all just like that.
-So the dignity you carry as a boy’s comic author Oda-san, is it safe to say that was something you’d already set in stone from when you started One Piece?
Yeah I think so. Because I mean, I approached it thinking that since I’m drawing for a boys’ comic magazine, then it’s my job to make sure they enjoy what they’re reading. When you actually do become a professional you’ll start getting fan letters and other things and you’ll soon find that the overwhelming majority of them are from girls. Boys just aren’t the type to pick up a pen*. (laughs) They don’t have things like stationary or stamps and they don’t think about going through the ‘grueling task’ of writing someone just to say, “That was cool.” Boys are a life form that enjoy something but won’t bother to tell you that they actually do.
So I learned that girls will flood you with their opinions and when I took at step back and looked at the world of manga, I realized that there are a lot of people out there that made me think, “This [author] is really just going along with the girls’ opinions.” And ultimately, if you’re considering those opinions as the ‘needs of the customer’ when you write the story, you’re just left with a girl’s manga. (laughs) It’s like, if you do that, you’re only writing to entertain girls, and that’s just wrong.
-And yet boys, who you see as most vital, won’t let you know what they think.
That’s right. And since that’s the case, I knew what I had to do was go back to my own memories, set my sights on the kinds of things I would enjoy if I was still a kid. It’s not like boys leave me without anything though; if your parents send you a Christmas Card* you’d send something back right? (laughs) So when they do send letters they’re exactly the kind of responses you’d expect from boys like, “I like the fights.”, or, “I like this attack.”, and as I read through them I think, “Ah, I thought they’d like that.”. The boys’ reactions are what I take very seriously, but I get a kick out of what the girls have to say too. You can almost hear their high-pitched screams of excitement through the letter. But if I let those opinions sway me then it’s more than just losing my place in a boy’s comic magazine, there’d be no value in my existence as a boy’s comic author.
It was right when the comic reached the tenth anniversary so more than two years ago. But I was way too busy with the comic during the tenth year and really didn’t do much for the films. So after I somehow made it through the tenth anniversary the movie was still on my plate and it was a rush job to finish the plot which at first I called, “The Crystal Ship’s Log”. Then when I finally thought it was settled, there was something that didn’t sit well with me about it… Just at the stage when the entire plot had been lined up I said, “Um, actually, I’d like to nix this.”, and so it came down to, “Well, there’s no way we’re ever going to make our scheduled release in March.”
-Speaking of that, when it was still in “The Crystal Ship’s Log” stage, what did you plan it to be about?
The very first thing I thought was, “I’ve gotta be able to do something here that only I can do.” In other words, since I’m the author, what could I use that prerogative to create? I mean, that was the entire purpose of my involvement. I came to the conclusion that since the only person allowed to mess with the very core of the characters is me, I thought about doing something related to the origin of Luffy; going way back, a story that happened around just before Luffy began training with Ace. It was devoted to Luffy’s memories during that period, about a certain special animal he met around that time and it all came around to link up with modern Luffy…a real emotional story with a big chunk devoted to memories.
But as I was in the middle of writing it I started to worry, “Is this kind of cushy story the kind of thing I would really want to see?” I don’t believe I’ve ever written something purely for the purpose of making a ‘good story’. If that’s something that happens in the comic the overall story has to be longer and then I don’t mind a ‘good story’ in there among other things as a dash of spice, however, for something as short as a movie, if I just made a ‘good story’ it all came down to where I could fit in the kinds of things boys really want to see: action and strong characters.
-After all it’s a given that your primary audience is boys.
And so I thought, “I should make a movie filled with the kind of stuff they actually want to see and when it’s over, they’ll be left with lots of memorable scenes.” Things that boys will remember are ‘cool scenes’. I had just churned out this touching story but no matter how ‘good’ a story it was, the only people that would probably enjoy it were adults. And that’s not my role. I draw comics for boys. I realized in the middle of it all, “I might’ve misunderstood what everyone was expecting.” It wasn’t the kind of thing I wanted to write anyway, so even if there was a call for something emotional, I didn’t have to please everyone asking for that. Starting from scratch I fixed the theme on ‘excitement’ and from the planning to the setting, changed it all just like that.
-So the dignity you carry as a boy’s comic author Oda-san, is it safe to say that was something you’d already set in stone from when you started One Piece?
Yeah I think so. Because I mean, I approached it thinking that since I’m drawing for a boys’ comic magazine, then it’s my job to make sure they enjoy what they’re reading. When you actually do become a professional you’ll start getting fan letters and other things and you’ll soon find that the overwhelming majority of them are from girls. Boys just aren’t the type to pick up a pen*. (laughs) They don’t have things like stationary or stamps and they don’t think about going through the ‘grueling task’ of writing someone just to say, “That was cool.” Boys are a life form that enjoy something but won’t bother to tell you that they actually do.
So I learned that girls will flood you with their opinions and when I took at step back and looked at the world of manga, I realized that there are a lot of people out there that made me think, “This [author] is really just going along with the girls’ opinions.” And ultimately, if you’re considering those opinions as the ‘needs of the customer’ when you write the story, you’re just left with a girl’s manga. (laughs) It’s like, if you do that, you’re only writing to entertain girls, and that’s just wrong.
-And yet boys, who you see as most vital, won’t let you know what they think.
That’s right. And since that’s the case, I knew what I had to do was go back to my own memories, set my sights on the kinds of things I would enjoy if I was still a kid. It’s not like boys leave me without anything though; if your parents send you a Christmas Card* you’d send something back right? (laughs) So when they do send letters they’re exactly the kind of responses you’d expect from boys like, “I like the fights.”, or, “I like this attack.”, and as I read through them I think, “Ah, I thought they’d like that.”. The boys’ reactions are what I take very seriously, but I get a kick out of what the girls have to say too. You can almost hear their high-pitched screams of excitement through the letter. But if I let those opinions sway me then it’s more than just losing my place in a boy’s comic magazine, there’d be no value in my existence as a boy’s comic author.
Movie red about shanks story would literally number 1 best seller move not uta sing show.
Basically red movie could cover most of shanks plot that Oda don’t have to draw .
‘We could have shanks birth on god valley , how shanks is raised by Roger . How shanks discover his celestial dragon bloodline , and connection to gorosei . And maybe meet his dad as garling and both opposing view points clash.
Then proceed to show shanks reject celestial dragon tyranny but he can’t fight world government due it may worse way . It would great show complex character for shanks. Struggling his ideas to apply his world .
Then show how shanks become yonko,and dueling with mihawk .
‘Then final scene show shanks meeting young luffy .
But nah , uta uta dance and song .
Oda is pussy and afraid to show his secret .
Basically red movie could cover most of shanks plot that Oda don’t have to draw .
‘We could have shanks birth on god valley , how shanks is raised by Roger . How shanks discover his celestial dragon bloodline , and connection to gorosei . And maybe meet his dad as garling and both opposing view points clash.
Then proceed to show shanks reject celestial dragon tyranny but he can’t fight world government due it may worse way . It would great show complex character for shanks. Struggling his ideas to apply his world .
Then show how shanks become yonko,and dueling with mihawk .
‘Then final scene show shanks meeting young luffy .
But nah , uta uta dance and song .
Oda is pussy and afraid to show his secret .
Holy shit even Nami bros are mad about this, situation is very dire
-Zoro bros are having a mental breakdown over Gucci taking their boy to a high diff
-Others cannot even cope anymore
i have never seen anything like this before and I have been following this series weekly for a decade lol. It seems pretty much everyone is about to give up outside condom fans
I'm not care much about Zoro or Sanji looking good or not. What I'm really not enjoying this arc is the lack of threat. Saturn got only 1 W that was his demonic introduction, after that was L after L. Kizaru is better than him, but the problem is that he still didnt make any serious against luffy.
Saturn is remembering me of Hody Jones, when along the arc we knew that Hody was not even stronger than Zoro
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Saturn is remembering me of Hody Jones, when along the arc we knew that Hody was not even stronger than Zoro
Id say Elbaf at least has a decent chance for Usopp to get focus, but Im almost afraid that the crew wont get focus equally until Oda deals with Blackbeard/Shanks at this point
Nobody understands that this is why I wanted the VAs to be relevant, so they give everyone else screentime
Nobody understands that this is why I wanted the VAs to be relevant, so they give everyone else screentime
Nobody understands that this is why I wanted the VAs to be relevant, so they give everyone else screentime
Luffy is taking on two top tiers. Yes, AR will help but Luffy will remain major part of it
Then you have 3 commanders who will engage VAs and let's be honest VAs won't even last long.
Others perhaps won't even do anything even against VAs if 3 commanders are taking part in it.
Oda had all the time to draw SHs vs Saturn when stare diffed ended...Even as zoro fan I would have preferred Sanji vs kiz clash for a bit....
But nah...he just sidelined everybody.
This isn't about Luffy's fight but a yonkou crew fighting their way out.
Fighting VAs is a cheap consolation which no fandom wants at this point.
