Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1109 Spoilers Discussion
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That is why i don't view you as genuine admiral fan just zori hater
Even if the admiral agenda gets destroyed, I will hate on Zoro.
If Zoro has 1 million haters, I’m one of them.
If Zoro has 1,000 haters, I’m one of them.
If Zoro has 50 haters, I’m one of them.
If Zoro has 1 hater, it’s me.
If Zoro has no haters, it means I’m dead.
Man, you still in denial about the Worosei after these spoilers? Let me fix that real quick for you:
Saturn>Luffy>=Zoro>Lucci>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kizaru>Jimbei>Sanji
Saturn thus far keeps directly shrugging off named Gear 5 attacks and asking for more. This idea that Saturn is not very much stronger than Kizaru or that Luffy is comfortably stronger than the guy he has yet to actually harm is nonsensical.
Its fucking over. Saturn is not even in the ballpark of Kizaru after these spoilers. If Kizaru was forced to actually fight Saturn with his AP which we now KNOW is below Luffy who fails to actually harm Saturn in any meanful way currently? He aint pushing "Laturn" past mid diff lets be real here okay? One drop of that posion touches Kizaru and its over.
There are levels to this shit!
Saturn>Luffy>=Zoro>Lucci>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kizaru>Jimbei>Sanji
Saturn thus far keeps directly shrugging off named Gear 5 attacks and asking for more. This idea that Saturn is not very much stronger than Kizaru or that Luffy is comfortably stronger than the guy he has yet to actually harm is nonsensical.
Its fucking over. Saturn is not even in the ballpark of Kizaru after these spoilers. If Kizaru was forced to actually fight Saturn with his AP which we now KNOW is below Luffy who fails to actually harm Saturn in any meanful way currently? He aint pushing "Laturn" past mid diff lets be real here okay? One drop of that posion touches Kizaru and its over.
There are levels to this shit!
Yeah , that's the bait i wanted them to take @HA001 @MarineHQ @nik87 @SakazOuki @HeroesNZ @Aknolagon @Geo @CbShadow
Now , 1st round Luffy used Gear 5th against Kizaru and there was barely a difference between them until Luffy used his punch and both went down .
according to @comrade , Luffy wasn't serious at all while he has to be to protect vegapunk from dying but he said that based on the feats that got shown currently by having Luffy in Gear 5th dealing with 2 Top Tiers and making fool outta them .
So you say Luffy who used his Peak Gear 5th wasn't serious while he clashed equally against Kizaru and while we got this ?
This is with named attacks being used , but they don't keep the same energy with Zoro or what @HA001 said :
Zoro had a similar situation where he used Santoryu and clashed with Lucci , but we said he isn't serious instead fellas posted the huff and puff to say it isn't a low diff or whatever the fuck they claim and denied Zoro being no serious ; but when it's luffy he isn't serious.
So it's either both are holding back since the start or drop the seriousness cope
Now , 1st round Luffy used Gear 5th against Kizaru and there was barely a difference between them until Luffy used his punch and both went down .
according to @comrade , Luffy wasn't serious at all while he has to be to protect vegapunk from dying but he said that based on the feats that got shown currently by having Luffy in Gear 5th dealing with 2 Top Tiers and making fool outta them .
So you say Luffy who used his Peak Gear 5th wasn't serious while he clashed equally against Kizaru and while we got this ?
This is with named attacks being used , but they don't keep the same energy with Zoro or what @HA001 said :
Zoro had a similar situation where he used Santoryu and clashed with Lucci , but we said he isn't serious instead fellas posted the huff and puff to say it isn't a low diff or whatever the fuck they claim and denied Zoro being no serious ; but when it's luffy he isn't serious.
So it's either both are holding back since the start or drop the seriousness cope
@Elder Lee Hung
Lol i dont want to either but one argument you can make is that the Gorosei are here to
A) Stop VPs message from spreading
B) Obtain the mother flame for Imu
Which just plainly suggests that they will be distracted with other issues, let alone the possibility of the AR showing up causing a nuisance.
If thats the case, then maybe Kizaru is still fought while they get what they want out of all of this. Kizaru being alone as the sole Admiral here kind of solidifies that he will take the brunt of this failure in the least, since this scene with Akainu rings true from Gorosei on this topic
Call it cope or whatever, but I refuse to believe Oda doesnt at least give Kizaru at least a good exit from the story, regardless of how reluctant he's been to letting him actually fight Luffy on a similar level.
Just how I feel about this for now.
Lol i dont want to either but one argument you can make is that the Gorosei are here to
A) Stop VPs message from spreading
B) Obtain the mother flame for Imu
Which just plainly suggests that they will be distracted with other issues, let alone the possibility of the AR showing up causing a nuisance.
If thats the case, then maybe Kizaru is still fought while they get what they want out of all of this. Kizaru being alone as the sole Admiral here kind of solidifies that he will take the brunt of this failure in the least, since this scene with Akainu rings true from Gorosei on this topic
Call it cope or whatever, but I refuse to believe Oda doesnt at least give Kizaru at least a good exit from the story, regardless of how reluctant he's been to letting him actually fight Luffy on a similar level.
Just how I feel about this for now.
This has not happened with Kizaru, Kizaru has been portrayed in a sympathetic/tragic light so far. For Nika to beat his ass and remove him from the manga after the sympathy fest Oda has written for Kizaru, would make Nika look like even more of a shit character than he already appears lol.
And especially now that all 5 Gorosei are here, this arc is 100% an escape scenario lol. There is zero way Luffy is actually meant to defeat the entire fucking world government here lol. That would just be absurd.
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