In almost every Saga, there is a Major Conflict/War, but We could say that there are Three that Stand-Out from Rest
01. Marineford War ---> Served as Pre-TS or Paradise's Final War
02. Onigashima War ---> Served as Post-TS or New World's Final War (Before Endgame Started)
03. Final Saga War (Upcoming) ---> Serves as Final War for entire World & Story in General
However, there is something that went Unnoticed by Fans,
Throughout Majority of Pre-TS, SHs were Defeating Villains that WG are Glad They were Defeated, in other words, SHs were being Pirates but without Angering WG
Even when They Defeated Crocodile, He was considered a Traitor & WG would have Removed him from Shichibukai if They knew his Plans
But in Second-Half of Pre-TS, SHs Started picking Fights that bother WG & eventually Oda led Luffy to Marineford War
They were Wars against:
Cipher-Pol 9 ---> Led by Spandam
Thriller Bark Pirates ---> Led by Moria
Impel Down ---> Led by Magellan
Marine HQ ---> Led by Sengoku
So even though Luffy didn't Necessarily Fight or Defeat All these Four, but They were created to be Four Leaders of Pre-TS Major War.
Now if you go to Post-TS, We know that Onigashima War technically Started since Punk Hazard, and what's Interesting is that Oda used Same Formula as Pre-TS
Kaidou was obviously Sengoku of this War (Except this Time, Luffy Won The War & didn't Lose)
What about it's Moria? Villain Defeated before Kaidou
What about it's Magellan? Villain who Failed to Catch an Escaping Luffy
What about it's Spandam? Coward Villain who caused lot of Suffering
They are none other than Doflamingo, Big Mom & Orochi
And these represent Three Leaders of Factions that Luffy had to encounter before Finally Fighting Beasts Pirates
They were Donquixote Pirates, Big Mom Pirates & Orochi's Forces
The Question is, will Oda do the Same for Final Saga?
Meaning before Luffy Fights Final Villain's Faction, He must First Deal with Three Major Secondary Factions
01. Marineford War ---> Served as Pre-TS or Paradise's Final War
02. Onigashima War ---> Served as Post-TS or New World's Final War (Before Endgame Started)
03. Final Saga War (Upcoming) ---> Serves as Final War for entire World & Story in General
However, there is something that went Unnoticed by Fans,
Throughout Majority of Pre-TS, SHs were Defeating Villains that WG are Glad They were Defeated, in other words, SHs were being Pirates but without Angering WG
Even when They Defeated Crocodile, He was considered a Traitor & WG would have Removed him from Shichibukai if They knew his Plans
But in Second-Half of Pre-TS, SHs Started picking Fights that bother WG & eventually Oda led Luffy to Marineford War
They were Wars against:
Cipher-Pol 9 ---> Led by Spandam
Thriller Bark Pirates ---> Led by Moria
Impel Down ---> Led by Magellan
Marine HQ ---> Led by Sengoku
So even though Luffy didn't Necessarily Fight or Defeat All these Four, but They were created to be Four Leaders of Pre-TS Major War.
Now if you go to Post-TS, We know that Onigashima War technically Started since Punk Hazard, and what's Interesting is that Oda used Same Formula as Pre-TS
Kaidou was obviously Sengoku of this War (Except this Time, Luffy Won The War & didn't Lose)
What about it's Moria? Villain Defeated before Kaidou
What about it's Magellan? Villain who Failed to Catch an Escaping Luffy
What about it's Spandam? Coward Villain who caused lot of Suffering
They are none other than Doflamingo, Big Mom & Orochi
And these represent Three Leaders of Factions that Luffy had to encounter before Finally Fighting Beasts Pirates
They were Donquixote Pirates, Big Mom Pirates & Orochi's Forces
The Question is, will Oda do the Same for Final Saga?
Meaning before Luffy Fights Final Villain's Faction, He must First Deal with Three Major Secondary Factions
However, in this Thread i'm only gonna Talk about Doffy/Moria Parallels & how They Prepare us for Luffy vs Akainu
If you go to Thriller Bark Arc, and start counting Important Enemies in it, what will you find?
01. Moria --- Main Villain of Thriller Bark Conflict
02. Zombie Oars --- Huge Henchman standing between Allied Forces & Main Villain
03. Absalom --- Main Villain's Right-Hand Man who is Chasing Someone (In this case it was Nami)
04. Zombie Lola --- Absalom's Henchman who Fights him & gets Defeated right before Nami (Chased Character) delivers Finishing Blow
05. Perona --- Hax Villain with Power to Defeat Anyone in Allied Forces
06. Zombie Kumashi --- Physically Strong Henchman who always accompanies Perona
07. Hogback --- Evil Scientist working for Moria
08. Zombie Cindry --- Female Henchman that always Protects Hogback
09. Zombie Tararan --- Henchman tasked with Capturing Thousand Sunny
10. Zombie Ryuma --- Main Swordsman on Villain's Side, Part of a Grudge Sub-Plot
11. Zombie Jigoro & Inuppe --- Two Henchmen Tasked with Protecting Hogback (But not from Start)
So Overall you could say that Thriller Bark Arc was about Dealing with Moria + Absalom + Perona + Hogback who were referred to as "Mysterious Four"
And to do so, you must get through Zombie Oars (Protecting Moria) + Zombie Kumashi (Protecting Perona) + Zombies Cindry, Jigoro & Inuppe (Protecting Hogback)
While Witnessing Two Sub-Plots revolving around Saving Damsel In Distress from Absalom + Getting Revenge on Zombie Ryuma
And also Zombie Tararan who was Stopping Thousand Sunny from Escaping
If you go to Thriller Bark Arc, and start counting Important Enemies in it, what will you find?
01. Moria --- Main Villain of Thriller Bark Conflict
02. Zombie Oars --- Huge Henchman standing between Allied Forces & Main Villain
03. Absalom --- Main Villain's Right-Hand Man who is Chasing Someone (In this case it was Nami)
04. Zombie Lola --- Absalom's Henchman who Fights him & gets Defeated right before Nami (Chased Character) delivers Finishing Blow
05. Perona --- Hax Villain with Power to Defeat Anyone in Allied Forces
06. Zombie Kumashi --- Physically Strong Henchman who always accompanies Perona
07. Hogback --- Evil Scientist working for Moria
08. Zombie Cindry --- Female Henchman that always Protects Hogback
09. Zombie Tararan --- Henchman tasked with Capturing Thousand Sunny
10. Zombie Ryuma --- Main Swordsman on Villain's Side, Part of a Grudge Sub-Plot
11. Zombie Jigoro & Inuppe --- Two Henchmen Tasked with Protecting Hogback (But not from Start)
So Overall you could say that Thriller Bark Arc was about Dealing with Moria + Absalom + Perona + Hogback who were referred to as "Mysterious Four"
And to do so, you must get through Zombie Oars (Protecting Moria) + Zombie Kumashi (Protecting Perona) + Zombies Cindry, Jigoro & Inuppe (Protecting Hogback)
While Witnessing Two Sub-Plots revolving around Saving Damsel In Distress from Absalom + Getting Revenge on Zombie Ryuma
And also Zombie Tararan who was Stopping Thousand Sunny from Escaping
What if tell you that "Exact" Scenario was Repeated in Dressrosa Saga, you simply have to notice which is which compared to Moria's Forces
Let's Start,
First We got Mysterious Four who are Main Villain + Right-Hand Man tasked with Chasing Someone + Girl with Overpowered Hax + Evil Scientist
Do We have such Characters? Absolutely Yes
They are Doflamingo + Vergo (Chasing Law) + Sugar + Caesar
These were Four that needed to be Defeated to Stop Doffy's Empire
Now, if Dressrosa does indeed Mirror Thriller Bark, then We should be able to find All Eleven mentioned above:
01. Doflamingo --- Main Villain of Dressrosa (Just like Moria)
02. Pica --- Huge Henchman standing between Allied Forces & Main Villain (Just like Zombie Oars)
03. Vergo --- Main Villain's Right-Hand Man who was chasing Law (Just like Absalom & Nami)
04. Smoker --- Vergo's Henchman who Fights him & gets Defeated right before Law delivers Finishing Blow (Just like Zombie Lola & Nami)
05. Sugar --- Hax Villain with Power to Defeat Anyone (Just like Perona)
06. Trebol --- Physically Strong Henchman who Protects/Accompanies Sugar (Just like Kumashi)
07. Caesar --- Evil Scientist working for Doflamingo (Just like Hogback)
08. Monet --- Female Henchman tasked with Protecting Caesar (Just like Cindry)
09. Giolla --- Henchman tasked with Capturing Thousand Sunny (Just like Tararan)
10. Diamante --- Main Swordsman on Villains Side, Part of a Grudge Sub-Plot (Just like Zombie Ryuma)
11. Baby 5 & Buffalo --- Duo sent to Retrieve & Protect Caesar (Just like Jigoro & Inuppe)
So as you can see, We have the exact same Players between Dressrosa & Thriller Bark Villains
And that's not all, how They were dealt with is also Repeated in some case (Not all)
Both Doffy & Moria were Defeated by Luffy
Both Pica & Zombie Oars received Three-Thousands Worlds from Zoro to prepare them for Finishing Blow
Both Vergo & Absalom were Chasing Someone (Law/Nami) + Had a Duel with Sanji + Fought their Henchman (Smoker/Zombie Lola) + Got One-Shot by Character They Chased
Both Sugar & Perona were Countered by Usopp (He was Smarter, not Stronger)
Both Giolla & Tararan were Defeated by Brook
Both Monet & Cindry Died with a Smile (Shortly before Death)
Both Diamante & Zombie Ryuma fought against Character with Grudge against them, before a Superior Swordsman Arrived to Defeat them (Rebecca/Kyros & Brook/Zoro)
Let's Start,
First We got Mysterious Four who are Main Villain + Right-Hand Man tasked with Chasing Someone + Girl with Overpowered Hax + Evil Scientist
Do We have such Characters? Absolutely Yes
They are Doflamingo + Vergo (Chasing Law) + Sugar + Caesar
These were Four that needed to be Defeated to Stop Doffy's Empire
Now, if Dressrosa does indeed Mirror Thriller Bark, then We should be able to find All Eleven mentioned above:
01. Doflamingo --- Main Villain of Dressrosa (Just like Moria)
02. Pica --- Huge Henchman standing between Allied Forces & Main Villain (Just like Zombie Oars)
03. Vergo --- Main Villain's Right-Hand Man who was chasing Law (Just like Absalom & Nami)
04. Smoker --- Vergo's Henchman who Fights him & gets Defeated right before Law delivers Finishing Blow (Just like Zombie Lola & Nami)
05. Sugar --- Hax Villain with Power to Defeat Anyone (Just like Perona)
06. Trebol --- Physically Strong Henchman who Protects/Accompanies Sugar (Just like Kumashi)
07. Caesar --- Evil Scientist working for Doflamingo (Just like Hogback)
08. Monet --- Female Henchman tasked with Protecting Caesar (Just like Cindry)
09. Giolla --- Henchman tasked with Capturing Thousand Sunny (Just like Tararan)
10. Diamante --- Main Swordsman on Villains Side, Part of a Grudge Sub-Plot (Just like Zombie Ryuma)
11. Baby 5 & Buffalo --- Duo sent to Retrieve & Protect Caesar (Just like Jigoro & Inuppe)
So as you can see, We have the exact same Players between Dressrosa & Thriller Bark Villains
And that's not all, how They were dealt with is also Repeated in some case (Not all)
Both Doffy & Moria were Defeated by Luffy
Both Pica & Zombie Oars received Three-Thousands Worlds from Zoro to prepare them for Finishing Blow
Both Vergo & Absalom were Chasing Someone (Law/Nami) + Had a Duel with Sanji + Fought their Henchman (Smoker/Zombie Lola) + Got One-Shot by Character They Chased
Both Sugar & Perona were Countered by Usopp (He was Smarter, not Stronger)
Both Giolla & Tararan were Defeated by Brook
Both Monet & Cindry Died with a Smile (Shortly before Death)
Both Diamante & Zombie Ryuma fought against Character with Grudge against them, before a Superior Swordsman Arrived to Defeat them (Rebecca/Kyros & Brook/Zoro)
I know you're Inpatient by now & asking what does Akainu got to do with this? Well, it's Simple
Marines are given Exact Same Players as Doffy's & Moria's Sides
Indicating that Same Scenario gonna be Repeated before End War Starts
So let's say that SHs are gonna be in Marine HQ just like Thriller Bark & Dressrosa
Meaning Luffy gonna Face Akainu, just like He Faced Doffy & Moria
For this to be Proven Right, We must find Repeating Players
Does Marines have a Scientist working for them? Yes it's Vegapunk
Is He Evil? Not entirely but He ended up creating Evil Version of himself & that's York
So York is basically Caesar of Akainu's War
Does Akainu have a Right-Hand Man who is Targeting Someone?
And while Chasing this Someone, He ends up Defeating his own Best Henchman?
Yes, it's Kizaru who was chasing Vegapunk & ended up Defeating Sentomaru
So Kizaru & Sentomaru are Vergo & Smoker of Akainu's War
Does Akainu have a Powerful Henchman who can get Super Huge & will not allow anyone to get near Akainu?
Yes, it's clearly Ryokugyu who is gonna be this Arc's Pica
Does Akainu have a Special Ranked Female Henchman who is said to have Overpowered Hax?
And this Female is accompanied by a Very Physically Strong Henchman wherever She goes?
Yes, it's definitely Tsuru & Sengoku who are gonna be this Arc's Sugar/Trebol
Does Akainu have a Female Henchman accompanied by Childish Duo who He can entrust to Protect Evil Scientist?
Yes, this clearly refers to Hina & Jango/Fullbody who are gonna be this Arc's Version of Monet & Baby5/Buffalo
Finally, does Akainu have a Henchman We can safely Call "Strongest Swordsman In Marines" whom Oda being teasing his Past Actions?
Yes, it definitely Fujitora who is gonna be Diamante & Zombie Ryuma of this Arc
Marines are given Exact Same Players as Doffy's & Moria's Sides
Indicating that Same Scenario gonna be Repeated before End War Starts
So let's say that SHs are gonna be in Marine HQ just like Thriller Bark & Dressrosa
Meaning Luffy gonna Face Akainu, just like He Faced Doffy & Moria
For this to be Proven Right, We must find Repeating Players
Does Marines have a Scientist working for them? Yes it's Vegapunk
Is He Evil? Not entirely but He ended up creating Evil Version of himself & that's York
So York is basically Caesar of Akainu's War
Does Akainu have a Right-Hand Man who is Targeting Someone?
And while Chasing this Someone, He ends up Defeating his own Best Henchman?
Yes, it's Kizaru who was chasing Vegapunk & ended up Defeating Sentomaru
So Kizaru & Sentomaru are Vergo & Smoker of Akainu's War
Does Akainu have a Powerful Henchman who can get Super Huge & will not allow anyone to get near Akainu?
Yes, it's clearly Ryokugyu who is gonna be this Arc's Pica
Does Akainu have a Special Ranked Female Henchman who is said to have Overpowered Hax?
And this Female is accompanied by a Very Physically Strong Henchman wherever She goes?
Yes, it's definitely Tsuru & Sengoku who are gonna be this Arc's Sugar/Trebol
Does Akainu have a Female Henchman accompanied by Childish Duo who He can entrust to Protect Evil Scientist?
Yes, this clearly refers to Hina & Jango/Fullbody who are gonna be this Arc's Version of Monet & Baby5/Buffalo
Finally, does Akainu have a Henchman We can safely Call "Strongest Swordsman In Marines" whom Oda being teasing his Past Actions?
Yes, it definitely Fujitora who is gonna be Diamante & Zombie Ryuma of this Arc
So Overall, the Fact that Oda Re-Created Same Key Players as Thriller Bark & Dressrosa, indicates that Luffy is indeed gonna Declare War on Akainu
And They must Deal with ---> Kizaru + Fujitora/Ryokugyu + Tsuru/Sengoku + York/Hina + Whoever gonna be Sent to Capture Thousand Sunny
Basically Equivalent of ---> Vergo + Diamante/Pica + Sugar/Trebol + Caesar/Monet + Giolla
Ofc there are gonna be many other Henchmen, but Oda is gonna be Free in how He uses them
For Example, Doffy's other Henchmen were given to SHs Grand Fleet + Bigger Roles for some SHs
How will each Marine Henchman be Defeated? Well,
1. Akainu will be Defeated by Luffy who will Probably try to Kill Everyone (Just like Birdcage & Sunlight)
2. Kizaru will be Defeated by Character He is Chasing, meaning either Vegapunk or Bonney, but it will be after He was already Super Exhausted (He might Fight Super Angry Sanji)
4. Tsuru will be taken down by Usopp who will Discover her Weakness (She is obviously out of his League, He will simply find out what She Fears)
5. Hina might End Up Dying at Hands of York
6. York will Survive eventually
7. Whoever gonna be Sent to Capture Thousand Sunny will be Defeated by Brook
And Finally, Fujitora is gonna be revealed to be Source of Grudge of Rebel Group who are Opposing Marines
He will End Up Defeating/Overpowering a Swordsman who Hates Him before a Superior Swordsman steps up to Finish The Duel
It's clear who i'm talking about here, Fujitora is whom both Crocodile & Mihawk Hate, just like Rebecca & Kyros Hated Diamante
Both Fights were Identical, as Brook/Rebecca couldn't Defeat a Non-Serious Ryuma/Diamante, and then Zoro/Kyros to Finish The Duel
While Brook/Rebecca were Spectating with Franky/Robin
So Overall, these are Main Fights of War against Marines:
Akainu vs Luffy
Ryokugyu vs Zoro
Fujitora vs Mihawk (After Crocodile's Defeat)
Kizaru vs Sanji (This Arc, similar to Vergo Fight)
Tsuru vs Usopp
Sengoku vs ??? (Probably Sabo who will also Participate a Little in Akainu Fight, just like Law in Dressrosa)
Hina vs ???
??? vs Brook
It should also be Noted that there is gonna be a Character Present in Marine HQ War who is Stronger than Akainu but He only Spectates The War
Basically, playing Role of Kuma & Fujitora in Thriller Bark/Dressrosa
And They must Deal with ---> Kizaru + Fujitora/Ryokugyu + Tsuru/Sengoku + York/Hina + Whoever gonna be Sent to Capture Thousand Sunny
Basically Equivalent of ---> Vergo + Diamante/Pica + Sugar/Trebol + Caesar/Monet + Giolla
Ofc there are gonna be many other Henchmen, but Oda is gonna be Free in how He uses them
For Example, Doffy's other Henchmen were given to SHs Grand Fleet + Bigger Roles for some SHs
How will each Marine Henchman be Defeated? Well,
1. Akainu will be Defeated by Luffy who will Probably try to Kill Everyone (Just like Birdcage & Sunlight)
2. Kizaru will be Defeated by Character He is Chasing, meaning either Vegapunk or Bonney, but it will be after He was already Super Exhausted (He might Fight Super Angry Sanji)
- There is High Chance Kizaru is going to Die (Revenge for Vega) as both Absalom & Vergo ended up Dying
4. Tsuru will be taken down by Usopp who will Discover her Weakness (She is obviously out of his League, He will simply find out what She Fears)
5. Hina might End Up Dying at Hands of York
6. York will Survive eventually
7. Whoever gonna be Sent to Capture Thousand Sunny will be Defeated by Brook
And Finally, Fujitora is gonna be revealed to be Source of Grudge of Rebel Group who are Opposing Marines
He will End Up Defeating/Overpowering a Swordsman who Hates Him before a Superior Swordsman steps up to Finish The Duel
It's clear who i'm talking about here, Fujitora is whom both Crocodile & Mihawk Hate, just like Rebecca & Kyros Hated Diamante
Both Fights were Identical, as Brook/Rebecca couldn't Defeat a Non-Serious Ryuma/Diamante, and then Zoro/Kyros to Finish The Duel
While Brook/Rebecca were Spectating with Franky/Robin
So Overall, these are Main Fights of War against Marines:
Akainu vs Luffy
Ryokugyu vs Zoro
Fujitora vs Mihawk (After Crocodile's Defeat)
Kizaru vs Sanji (This Arc, similar to Vergo Fight)
Tsuru vs Usopp
Sengoku vs ??? (Probably Sabo who will also Participate a Little in Akainu Fight, just like Law in Dressrosa)
Hina vs ???
??? vs Brook
It should also be Noted that there is gonna be a Character Present in Marine HQ War who is Stronger than Akainu but He only Spectates The War
Basically, playing Role of Kuma & Fujitora in Thriller Bark/Dressrosa
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