Break Week How can you enjoy Kaido in Wano arc?

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Oden is a superhuman with fast healing power ...

but

Kaido's free shot on Oden ... KO him

Akainu's free shot on a heart attack Whitebeard didn't even slow him down


and this is a Kaido from 20 years ago

how strong was Akainu 20 years ago? I tell you ... vice admiral level ... aka ... shit level
Kaido from 20 years ago was in his prime and couldn’t even KO a guy who Roger swatted like a fly lol. Meanwhile Aokiji crippled the most durable man in the world while still wiping the sleep from his eyes.
 
Kaido's role in this entire arc is pretty easy. He's the big bad bully that acts as Orochi's bodyguard, defending all of Orochis crimes to the Kozuki family and country of Wano.

I don't know why it has to do anything with Power scaling when you point out the fact that Orochi was the active villain of the past 75 chapters.

Kurozumi Orochi is the best written character of this arc, Oda has done a great job with him.

- Orochi is cunning, despicable, smart, manipulative.
- Orochi has
  • History with Wano
  • A personal agenda against the Kozuki
  • Fucked up Ebisu town
  • Made a new deal with CP0
  • Snuck in a spy in Oden's ranks, leading to his downfall
  • Stolen funds of Oden to actually bring Kaido to Wano
I Could go on and list all the things that makes Orochi an active, interesting villain of this arc.

Kaido is strong and he's in Wano....that's about it. He's rarely given the chance to speak, make us understand how he thinks, what his motives are etc.

Oda, so far, has done an absolute terrible job with Kaido this arc and i fear that with Yamato it just gets worse.

It's a proven fact that during the Oden FB, Oda created contradictions with Kaido's character on several occasions.
Oden literally did not create any contradictions with his character. People just taught he was a brute without even seeing him and that he was stupid or something. He took into account Oden forces he could gather and made a plan which gives him the advantage. He is trying to have a big war and become PK. We also haven't gotten context yet until we get his flashback.
 
Kaido from 20 years ago was in his prime and couldn’t even KO a guy who Roger swatted like a fly lol. Meanwhile Aokiji crippled the most durable man in the world while still wiping the sleep from his eyes.
Roger didn't even damange him as well
and Kaido fought a stronger version of that man as manga told us

and Kaido from 20 years ago have better AP than current day Akainu

and Kaido form 20 years ago with no hybrid and with no awaking ... lol ... tell to yourself that he was prime Kaido :cheers:
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
Roger didn't even damange him as well
and Kaido fought a stronger version of that man as manga told us

and Kaido from 20 years ago have better AP than current day Akainu

and Kaido form 20 years ago with no hybrid and with no awaking ... lol ... tell to yourself that he was prime Kaido :cheers:
Oden wet himself after seeing Roger’s strength but was about to hand prime Kaido’s head to him on a platter lol. Don’t compare Kaido and Oden’s tree level 1v1 to Punk Hazard. A serious admiral would solo 2 Yonko as Akainu and Kizaru have already confirmed.
 
near dead ... at best ...

but being clean ... and DISAPPOINTED ? never

even now Kaido's feats surpassed anything we saw from any one but Roger and Prime Beard
Akainu took Quake punches and was still going.
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Oden wet himself after seeing Roger’s strength but was about to hand prime Kaido’s head to him on a platter lol. Don’t compare Kaido and Oden’s tree level 1v1 to Punk Hazard. A serious admiral would solo 2 Yonko as Akainu and Kizaru have already confirmed.
That wasn't prime Kaido
 
we are talking about power level

and Kaido durability is a feat rest of people in one piece can dream about it
and his AP is among greatest ever ... more than Akainu as far as we saw ...

Kaido one shot Luffy
Akainu can't one shot Jinbie

Kaido free shot one shot Oden
Akainu free shot won't even slow whitebeard down

all of this are prove Kaido is above all admiral in terms of offensive and defensive powers
I never even mentioned Akainu, did u start dissing him knowing that he's my favourite, expecting to trigger me with that?

Well we don't really need to continue this "debate" here, if you can really call it one since we've just thrown around assumptions of what characters might be able to do in a hypothetical scenario without any context.

I guess it's impossible to talk about a character's personality without sinking into a power debate....sigh


and his AP is among greatest ever ... more than Akainu as far as we saw ...

Kaido one shot Luffy
Akainu can't one shot Jinbie

Kaido free shot one shot Oden
Akainu free shot won't even slow whitebeard down

all of this are prove Kaido is above all admiral in terms of offensive and defensive powers
I agree with everything you've said.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
p.s

I used Akainu Vs Major ... I would make the argument shorter ... i don't want to attack him unless I HAVE TO

sorry :)
Let’s be clear, You used Akainu against me because you have nothing else to defend the sunken Yonko ship, so you tried to take my favorite to the bottom of the ocean along with yours lol.

What you did not suspect is that I don’t care that much lol. Just had to prove the few nonsense you were spewing wrong. That shit’ll pass on Naruto forums but not here
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Kaido is just a middlepoint between Doflamingo and EOS Blackbeard, who Oda took the time to properly flesh out since Alabasta.

There is nothing to this character... He is irrelevant in the grand scheme of things, apart from his strength. That is why Oda is reforming "Rox", to add relevance to Wano.



Although the "everyone is related to everyone" plot point is getting kinda tedious.
 
The major issue i had with Kaido in the Oden FB and why i think that his actions/ideals directly contradict the other:

- Kaidou/Orochi sneak a spy in Oden's ranks. That spy supplies Kaido with important data about Oden's future actions, naturally giving Kaido an strategical advantage over his enemy.

No matter how u see it, using a spy to prepare in advance to a coming battle is an underhanded method.

- So Kaido rallies up 1000 of his men and has a fight against 9 Individuals. During that fight a subordinate of Kaido uses an underhanded method because of which the fight ends prematurely because Kaido in-or unintentionally used that gab to his advantage to land a cheap shot.

If at that point Kaido just said fuck it, it's Oden's fault for getting distracted, there would absolutely no issue, just like with Blackbeard.

The problem starts when Kaido kills Higurashi, punishes her for using a dirty tactic out of which he took his profit as well which was the win over Oden.

This signals us that Kaido cares about the perception of his own honour before his enemies, but here he's contradicting himself.

If you really feel sorry for ending that fight prematurely than make it fair and give Oden the chance to run it back with u.

Now that would be an acceptable and fair answer. Kaido can't just kill Higurashi, label her as a cheater and he himself faces no consequences for gaining an advantage through that opening that the hag created with her cheap trick.

The contradiction mainly starts the moment Kaido wants to be perceived as honourable in a fight.

And i didn't even mention the 5 years where Oden had to hold himself back to save the lives of the people in Wano.
 
Katakuri had tons of contradictions. So did Kaido. That's what happens when you get 3 hours of sleep a day and spend 90% of your time drawing random background characters....
Oda is doing this all the time. He's limiting an important characters screen-time to the last half of an arc, and when we are there, he tries to tie all the strings together, resulting in major Inconsistencies.

Orochi and Doflamingo are prime examples that he can do it great, if he wants too.

Orochi was the main focus for the entire Wano arc, how much characterization can Oda give Kaidou now that the battle is about to start? No idea
 
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