Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Them unjustly using our legal system to prosecute their political opponents.

"Woke" like you call them, don't do that. Actually its the opposite that happens. Its billionaires and republicans (and overall rich rightist) who tends to attack in justice leftists opponent but also simple citizen in order to kill in the foot any critics of their wrong doing.

It happens in the US just like it happens in Europe. In France we call those trials "procedure baillons" (translated "slag procedure) named "SLAPP" in english.

In reality, the left do not attack the right. Its usually the opposite.

Also calling "woke" liberals/democrate is really not wise...

Bogus science, not Actual.
Good Job bub.

See, that's the problem... if it was the case, you would be able to explain why, explain why social sciences are present in big science journals and why there is a scientific consensus on the subject.

So maybe you know better that all the scientific in the world ?

 

[Saturn-sama]

I agree. They have started going after everyone who stands against them in court, which is scary.

Straight evil,
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What is funny is that every body will say that, but never actually and precisely explain why hehe



Yeah mate.. Science is on my side, not yours.. sorry.

I am sure a lot explained it, but hence you have non self-fuctional brain just straight MSM and demonic far left propaganda you won‘t understand it ever, but when you may land in hell for your evil, ignorance and satanic worshipping you‘ll understand it.

In this world you are a lost cause you simply can nor you want to understand it.

Don‘t bother with a respond I got you blocked.

 

[Logiko]

I am sure a lot explained it

Sadly no. The anti-woke hate is always fuel by pure ignorance and incomprehension. That's why you always see people say "woke are bad" or in the worst case "woke wants to take our freedom" without really explaining why and really explaining how.

Its a moral panic. There is no substance to it. 90% of the time its hate/insults/fear.

you have non self-fuctional brain just straight MSM and demonic far left propaganda

Case and point.

ignorance and satanic worshipping

You read One Piece with that mind ?

In this world you are a lost cause you simply can nor you want to understand it.

If wokism is a lost cause, then the world is simply lost and there is no reasons for millions of poor people and oppressed people to expect a better tomorrow.

I'm glad to think that its not the case.

Don‘t bother with a respond I got you blocked.

"the left is censoring us"

 

[AL sama]

be a realist not a saint

 

[Logiko]

be a realist not a saint

Saints don't exist. Heroes are not selfmade. Merit do not exist.

If you want to be realist. You need to accept those three facts.

 

[Zenos7]

Words have power. Until you guyz undertands that, this conflict will remain.

Im well aware. What does this have to do with deliberately misrepresenting what people say though?
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Didn't say that.

Wasnt talking bout you there but the nutjobs on fanverse
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And if "I" understands that your constante defense of right wing rethoric is problematic

Not defending shit tho
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Science is on my side, not yours

Science still isnt on any side.
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Bogus science, not Actual.
Good Job bub.

Wdym bogus science?
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but when you may land in hell for your evil, ignorance and satanic worshipping you‘ll understand it.

Got any evidence for hell or satan?

 

[Logiko]

Im well aware. What does this have to do with deliberately misrepresenting what people say though?

In this case, I'm not missrepresenting anything. Trump incitated a coup. Period. Saying that is not a missrepresentation, its describing a fact.

And in the case of bleach, questionning about putting bleach into syringe has the SAME power of dangerosity as explaining that bleach can fix covid. So explaining that Trump is doing something dangerous is not representing his words, its showing how dangerous his words actually are.

Again, words have power.

Not defending shit tho

You don't understand why jumping on any occasion to explain me the relevance of a transphobic definition or jumping to explain why Donald Trump did not actually incite an issurection or when you denounce "woke shit" is a defense of rightist (and worse) rethoric ?

Dude... come on.You should know what a pattern is. I'm not even being that hard with you. Any real leftist would have already put you into the box of conservative sympathizers without even taking the time to reply to you.

Science still isnt on any side.

Well technically, its me who is on science's side yes.

 

[Zenos7]

this case, I'm not missrepresenting anything. Trump incitated a coup. Period. Saying that is not a missrepresentation, its describing a fact.

And in the case of bleach, questionning about putting bleach into syringe has the SAME power of dangerosity as explaining that bleach can fix covid. So explaining that Trump is doing something dangerous is not representing his words, its showing how dangerous his words actually are.

Again, words have power.

It is a misrepresntation, hence my initial response.

And my later example is the same. The media pushed this idea that trump told people to drink/inject disinfectant when he simply didnt. You dont need to lie about his statements to show he is saying retarded and dangerous stuff. Just makes you look bad in the process tbh
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You don't understand why jumping on any occasion to explain me the relevance of a transphobic definition or jumping to explain why Donald Trump did not actually incite an issurection or when you denounce "woke shit" is a defense of rightist (and worse) rethoric ?

Dude... come on.You should know what a pattern is. I'm not even being that hard with you. Any real leftist would have already put you into the box of conservative sympathizers without even taking the time to reply to you

Transphobic definition?

Actual definitions you mean lol. Sorry for not going against definitions everyone and their mother is using like you do.

Elaborate on denouncing woke shit as well.

But well, i dont expect anything but strawmen or other antilogic bs from you on this anyway. . .
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Well technically, its me who is on science's side yes

Yes. We've been over this plenty of times, dunno why you still say it the other way around all the time.

 

[Zemmi]

It is a misrepresntation, hence my initial response.

And my later example is the same. The media pushed this idea that trump told people to drink/inject disinfectant when he simply didnt. You dont need to lie about his statements to show he is saying retarded and dangerous stuff. Just makes you look bad in the process tbh

People push say things out of context all the time or even blatantly lie and people who want the narrative to be true run with it instead of search for the full context as watching the speech or a video in its entirety. It's easy to hold onto your point of view if you never question it or interact outside the line of thinking.

 

[AL sama]

telling a realist how to be a realist lol

 

[Zenos7]

People push say things out of context all the time or even blatantly lie and people who want the narrative to be true run with it instead of search for the full context as watching the speech or a video in its entirety. It's easy to hold onto your point of view if you never question it or interact outside the line of thinking.

Ye and its just intellectually ridiculous and lazy to respond to people calling out your lies with lame ass shit like "oh so you support/defend trump you right winger blabla". No im fucking not.

 

[Logiko]

It is a misrepresntation, hence my initial response.

No.. Its not. That's the reality mate.

The media pushed this idea that trump told people to drink/inject disinfectant when he simply didnt.

Dude, when I say "words have power" I mean that you don't need to say "take the capitol" or "drink bleach" to actually tell those things implicitly to your followers. Any influencers and good politician KNOWS that. Come on !

So yes, both things where said, not in words but heavily implied. One intentionnaly the other not so much. That's the reality. And when you jump on the first occasion to say "no" when the entire left and even democrate who are rightist agree to denounce those... well you take a side.

telling a realist how to be a realist lol

Looking at the way you are (trying) to trash me, let me question this assertion...

Transphobic definition?

Actual definitions you mean lol. Sorry for not going against definitions everyone and their mother is using like you do.

Elaborate on denouncing woke shit as well.

But well, i dont expect anything but strawmen or other antilogic bs from you on this anyway. . .

I won't have this argument again. And what you are saying is just proving me that you didn't understand anything. So its useless and like I said, any leftist would understand why you are not on our side.

Yes. We've been over this plenty of times, dunno why you still say it the other way around all the time.

Abuse of language. Yes in this case, I'm on the side of science. Which is the opposite of 95 % of the poster here.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

telling a realist how to be a realist lol

You're a pessimist not a realist
Also who is this new alt??

 

[Saturn-sama]

Im well aware. What does this have to do with deliberately misrepresenting what people say though?
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Wasnt talking bout you there but the nutjobs on fanverse
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Not defending shit tho
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Science still isnt on any side.
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Wdym bogus science?
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Got any evidence for hell or satan?

Yes far left woke progressive politicians, journalists, activists, rich elites and unpeople like logiko. it‘s clear they are a breed of satan.

 

[Logiko]

Yes far left woke progressive politicians, journalists, activists, rich elites and unpeople like logiko. it‘s clear they are a breed of satan.

Damn.. The guy likes to see the world burn

 

[Zemmi]

Yes far left woke progressive politicians, journalists, activists, rich elites and unpeople like logiko. it‘s clear they are a breed of satan.

I wouldn't call them Satan. I think they are misguided into thinking they are doing good without realizing how much harm they are doing. Many of the normal people believe the lies of the movement leaders which know very well they are up to know good and the regular people believe close to a utopia can exist.

 

[Zenos7]

Dude, when I say "words have power" I mean that you don't need to say "take the capitol" or "drink bleach" to actually tell those things implicitly to your followers. Any influencers and good politician KNOWS that. Come on !

So yes, both things where said, not in words but heavily implied. One intentionnaly the other not so much. That's the reality. And when you jump on the first occasion to say "no" when the entire left and even democrate who are rightist agree to denounce those... well you take a side.

trump says the mofos should be peaceful.
you: he implicitly said they should do an insurrection

trump says doctors should research using disinfectant/uv to combat covid
you: he implicity said people should drink bleach


yeah no bro, you are deliberately misrepresenting what is said with massive reach. and me calling you out has nothing to do with me being right wing (im not) or conservative (im not) or supporting/defending trump (im not) or being against left wingers (im not). not all left wingers join in on the gross misrepresentation to get political brownie points either (*wave*)

i wonder if you can ever stop being this much of a disingenuous shithead
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I won't have this argument again. And what you are saying is just proving me that you didn't understand anything. So its useless and like I said, any leftist would understand why you are not on our side.

not surprised at all that you cant substantiate your bs.

disagreeing with your nonsense =/= not understanding anything. i understand very well, you are just full of shit most of the time.
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Which is the opposite of 95 % of the poster here.

you cherry pick the convenient science to your political views just like bob, herrera, ravagerblade. though granted they are much worse than you are
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Yes far left woke progressive politicians, journalists, activists, rich elites and unpeople like logiko. it‘s clear they are a breed of satan.

so basically : here is a bunch of people i dont like, therefore satan.

this is retarded and not at all evidence in any way shape or form.
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I wouldn't call them Satan. I think they are misguided into thinking they are doing good without realizing how much harm they are doing. Many of the normal people believe the lies of the movement leaders which know very well they are up to know good and the regular people believe close to a utopia can exist.

some are def just conmen, who dont care about the harm they are doing. and obviously you'll find such peeps on all sides (inb4 antilogiko says this is only true for right wingers because reasons (massive bias))

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

Oh god the chapter is out what are you all doing here in this stupid thread?!

 

[Zemmi]

Oh god the chapter is out what are you all doing here in this stupid thread?!

I haven't read one piece in years, before OJ even closed.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

I haven't read one piece in years, before OJ even closed.

Then go and play mafia. This thread is a waste of time