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I take you are religious then? You may hate me then since I believe Christian nationalism is one of the biggest poisons in America. Christianity of today is just a modified chimera of man's own biases and greed to increase their own influence under captialism.
How that happens
 
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The poison is the Infiltration of cultural marxist in the society, politics and eugenics like Bill Gates and wealthy other transhumanists.
Note: After they uses the capitalism to get rich themselves.
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Religion is perfectly fine. Shoving it people's faces, merging it with politics, and/or using it for personal gain is the problem, and it's so easy to do so.
I find it funny when people say "merging it with politics" like that person can separate this from their beliefs "oh this is my religious belief so I won't use it for politics" it is an insane statement. If your religious is against drugs you are inclined to be against bills that favors drugs to be delivered to population. And this is fine. This is not making others to follow your same religion. But I agree that a smart politician should praise for freedom to choice and not use the power of state to make others to act as they want IF they are not doing any harm to others than themselves.
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My ma suspects it's porn, but I really don't want anyone catching me browsing this godforsaken thread
This is so "I started to look at porn yesterday" vibe.
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Try only fans or sell a kidney (not necessary yours):kata:

or try living in box under a bridge... taxe free :hohoho:
Onlyfans is really something to be considered
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I agree especially how the basement gets really cold at night


But I need to get a job first
If you finished high school and didn't joined college yet just try for an online degree in IT or do some online free courses. That's the easiest way I know. Although IT seems to be kind of saturated in some places because of recently mass layoffs
 
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Well technically yes it does. But noone is advocating to talk about the Israel/Palestine conflict in the Nakama thread. Politics don't have to be so conflictual or politically charged. Talking about politic means understanding and questionning the values and behavior that are socially acceptable in society.
When I read a One Piece chapter the last thing on my mind is "what is and isn't socially acceptable".
That's just an escuse.
Not an excuse lmao. Holy you're not serious here.

If escapism was the case, there would be no conflict on this forum. And yet, people are engaging in very POLITICAL behaviors even when they don't realize it.
Arguing is political now?

The only reason we have conflict here is because someone dared to challenge another's headcanon lol. It's not that deep.
 
people (not each individual but in general) will always be religious in some way. It's human nature
I would rather say spiritual. Even me who is extremelly materialist can be very spiritual at time. But rather than finding the research for spiritual awakening in religion or faith or magic stuff, I will rather search it in science, in the unknown and in the potential of humanity for greatness.


When I read a One Piece chapter the last thing on my mind is "what is and isn't socially acceptable".
And yet, this is all that is One Piece. In more ways than most stories in fact, this is precisely why it can be compared sometimes to great forging myth or great mythological tales like The Odyssey.


Not an excuse lmao. Holy you're not serious here.
I am. The escapism is just a false excuse to avoid what is already there. Politics, even if Mods are denying it, are ALL OVER THE PLACE in this forum, they are just ignored and in the shadows. My place is to question them and therefore bring them to the light in order to better the discussion which can result in a better environment, better poster, a better forum and ultimately, a better fanbase.

Politics are the conflict of values. As such, politics always make the world better. Its the absence and the restriction of politization that creates chaos. You can check everywhere in the world. When political discussions are suppressed, the environment is hostile to people. And what can be said for the world, a country or a community, can be said for a simple fanbase or a forum as well.


Arguing is political now?
Yes. Politic is conflict. There is no politic without that principle.


The only reason we have conflict here is because someone dared to challenge another's headcanon lol. It's not that deep.
That's what you think. But in reality, there are deeper reason why there was a battle with two major characters in the story among the fans.

Those reasons are deeper than just the story or the character's journey. The reason are political. Political in the sence that each character has raised a certain number of values in each fanbase, values that went in conflict with each others.

So behind the Carrot VS Yamato war, there was a political conflict at play. The conflict of two sets of values and a battle to see which ones would prevail.

Again. Politics had all its place in this thread.
 

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Well, I give up. Can't win against fools.
First, no need for a revolution right now, at least not in the west. We just need to reform the institutions and move out liberals, conservative, libertarian and cryptofascist out of power.

We we can't do that with the help of the institution, then we can talk about revolution (Russian and chinese might wanna think about this right now for example)

Second, careful, when you start talking about your party members as your underlings.. its not a good sign for democracy.


This is dictature... let's not do that.
Removing liberals from power and fighting liberal ideas doesn't mean that we should put rightist in jail.

It means that we must fight them politically. I know that rightists think that saying that capitalism is hurtfull is already communism but let's stay calm here...


If we are talking about the freedom of owning guns or to say that trans or people of colors are the problem of society.. well yeah.. I agree with that. Those freedom shouldn't exist in the public space.

If we are talking about normal freedom of speech, and human rights then no. I do not agree.



Not necessaraly, progress can come during the transition. But structures of power will need to be dealt with to go beyond, yes.



No. Not necessaraly. It could indeed go wrong.. like any change of power.. or it could go right if people follow a real progressist and antiliberal mindset: In france there is a party that is trying to create a new way of thinking the institutions, we call it the "sixth republic". It stands on the basis that the executive power (the president and the ministers) have too much power and that we need a better representation of the people and more power to the people.

Its not perfect, but its already better than every other propositions. In France, it would look like that:

1- You elect a president that will call a specific type of assembly "the constituante" composed by elected people and people chosen at random
2- "The constituante" will right a new constitution with new added foundamental rights. (right for abortion for example). it will be a process of back and forth between this assembly and the work of the people.
3- The president holds a referedum to make the population approve or disprove of the text. If its approved, we move to the next step, if its not, the "constituante" rewrite the text. And it goes on until the population approves of the text and create the contitution of the 6th republic. Every modification of said constitution will be held with a referundum.
3Bis - In fact, every group of citizen who manage to get a significant number of signature will be able to invocate the holding of a new referundum to delete a law, revocate a treaty or add something in the constitution.

The structure of power would therefore be created and regulated by this new constitution. So you can expect a new type of political structure, much more representative and close to the needs of the people with actions like:

- A minimum wage of 1400€
- A maximum wage authorized in the business (the maximum wage must not grow over 20 times the minimum wage in the same business)
- Financial help (around 1060€) for young people that are alone to pay for their studies and housing
- The green rule with an ecological planification (Listing of ressources we take from the earth), it consist in not taking more in nature that what nature can create.
- Taxation of big inheritances
- Refound the Police
- A progressive taxation based on the income of the population
Etc.

So you can expect a more representative type of power structure that we have now and therefore something far more equal, equitable and close to the needs of the people. If every country start to do that.. we might see the end of capitalism and neo liberalism.

That's for part one. For part two we might even see the world drift into new form of system.. Maybe something communist ? An anarchy perhaps ? Something new ? We don't know... but as long as people don't believe in the myth of single heroes saving the world.. we should be safe from despote taking over the power and creating apocalyptic societies.


Yup... I think we should be very careful about this type of content. It can quickly escalate into cultism.
How can you be pro-european and support LFI? They are sovereignists and for some nationalists.
 
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Removing liberals from power and fighting liberal ideas doesn't mean that we should put rightist in jail.

It means that we must fight them politically. I know that rightists think that saying that capitalism is hurtfull is already communism but let's stay calm here...


If we are talking about the freedom of owning guns or to say that trans or people of colors are the problem of society.. well yeah.. I agree with that. Those freedom shouldn't exist in the public space.

If we are talking about normal freedom of speech, and human rights then no. I do not agree.



Not necessaraly, progress can come during the transition. But structures of power will need to be dealt with to go beyond, yes.
+1
There are good people among liberals, anyway noone should be put in Jail because of their political beliefs.


How can you be pro-european and support LFI?
I'm not. Not as Europe is right now.
I'm for the CONCEPT of Europe and the possibility of a strong potential super nation that could emerge because of the common history of the people. Something that could evolve further into an even bigger common international nation that we would call humanity.

But sadly, we went a little bit too fast with our current Europe, so we might need to rethink that system a bit (for now). We are not ready as a specie for that type of supersystem just yet, we are bound to make too many mistakes and creates a really bad system.

So i'm on the same line as LFI right now. Even if I hope that someday we can create something better together in Europe.
 
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I know that rightists think that saying that capitalism is hurtfull is already communism but let's stay calm here...
Because it is.

If we are talking about the freedom of owning guns or to say that trans or people of colors are the problem of society.. well yeah.. I agree with that. Those freedom shouldn't exist in the public space.
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.

If we are talking about normal freedom of speech, and human rights then no. I do not agree.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.

people chosen at random
:ohreally:

The structure of power would therefore be created and regulated by this new constitution. So you can expect a new type of political structure, much more representative and close to the needs of the people with actions like:
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.

- A minimum wage of 1400€
- A maximum wage authorized in the business (the maximum wage must not grow over 20 times the minimum wage in the same business)
- Financial help (around 1060€) for young people that are alone to pay for their studies and housing
- The green rule with an ecological planification (Listing of ressources we take from the earth), it consist in not taking more in nature that what nature can create.
- Taxation of big inheritances
- Refound the Police
- A progressive taxation based on the income of the population
Etc.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.

Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.

And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.

That's for part one. For part two we might even see the world drift into new form of system.. Maybe something communist ? An anarchy perhaps ? Something new ? We don't know... but as long as people don't believe in the myth of single heroes saving the world.. we should be safe from despote taking over the power and creating apocalyptic societies.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.

And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
 
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