Zemmi

GodMommie
They kind of already aren't

Don't know where you live but at least in the united states, these people are on a public registry where everyone knows who they are. They aren't allowed to live or go in certain areas. If they don't answer their mail and re-confirm their address with the local authorities once every few months they could be charged with a felony.

And that's on top of whatever prison sentence they serve, which is usually quite severe.
I'm from the States too. Then you have to admit it really doesn't stop them from going places or doing other crimes. It's like a restraining order, just a piece of paper.
 
They aren't allowed to live or go in certain areas. If they don't answer their mail and re-confirm their address with the local authorities once every few months they could be charged with a felony.
So what, do you think a Pedo cares about breaking the law?? 🤡 They can be charged with as many felonies as the judge wants it doesn't undo what these sickos have done to their victims
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I'm from the States too. Then you have to admit it really doesn't stop them from going places or doing other crimes. It's like a restraining order, just a piece of paper.
I never understood why restraining orders are a thing.
 
Sickos will reoffend one way or another it's not like they live at their workplace and work 24/7
Actually if you look up the re-offense rates by crimes, I believe sex offenders have the second lowest re-offense rates, with only murderers being above them.

If I were to guess, this is probably due to the length of the prison sentences given to these offenders. A thief can get slapped with a small sentence, come back out, and steal again. But if you do a 10 or 20 year rape charge, and are then released as a registered sex offender, where basically nobody wants to associate with you. There is both not an incentive to reoffend, nor is there really a means to reoffend.

Furthermore, if you've done a heavy sentence and are an old man, statistically you are less likely to engage in crime than a younger person.

So what, do you think a Pedo cares about breaking the law??
Some probably don't. But I'm sure a good amount of them don't want to go back to prison.
 
Actually if you look up the re-offense rates by crimes, I believe sex offenders have the lowest re-offense rates, with only murderers being above them.

If I were to guess, this is probably due to the length of the prison sentences given to these offenders. A thief can get slapped with a small sentence, come back out, and steal again. But if you do a 10 or 20 year rape charge, and are then released as a registered sex offender, where basically nobody wants to associate with you. There is both not an incentive to reoffend, nor is there really a means to reoffend.
This ain't the question we should be asking tho, no? A person that already raped a child or committed a murder he no place in society (or in the world altogether)
 
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We even let murderers out after 10 years or so.
Brazil we allow people to fulfill 2/3 of their sentence in "freedom". We allow all prisoners to got out for holidays, like father day, Christmas and stuff.

Here when one is caught he has to see a judge inside 24h that will grant him freedom because our prisons are overfilled.
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Its pretty fucked up that he did that
But I don't see how him being unemployed and on the streets would make society safer.

If ex convicts don't have at least some opportunity to create a life for themselves, then they have no incentive not to re-offend. You can say this person should have never been released, maybe you are right, but he was judged in a court, punished, and has now been released.

The best society can do with these people is keep an eye on them and don't let them get into situations where they can abuse others.
I don't understand exactly how and why I have to study on that but here in Brazil is against the law to put prisoners to work. But I remember seeing on TV a prison that did that and when the workers got out they remained as employees of that said company.

There are criminals and criminals. And in this case pedo, rape and incest(not sure if it is a crime there) it is one of the worsts. Even more with the guy admitting himself we can't even play the ignorance card like maybe it was false accused or shit.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Three-year recidivism Rate of Sexual assaults. I'm gonna assume this includes those against minors since it doesn't say and doesn't have a separate section for it. This is from cga.ct.gov

42% rearrested, 23% reconvicted and 16% reprisoned.

Way higher numbers than acceptable. Which no number is acceptable in my opinion.
 
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Herrera95

I am of the belief those particular horrendous crimes should never be in society again.
Life sentence... There are some ideas for chemical castration in cases of rape for example. My only issue with those is that sometimes justice is unfair and punishes innocents. Specially talking about rape that is such a difficult crime to prove.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Life sentence... There are some ideas for chemical castration in cases of rape for example. My only issue with those is that sometimes justice is unfair and punishes innocents. Specially talking about rape that is such a difficult crime to prove.
I know many women who falsely accused men of things which is why I never jumped on the idea of believing all women.
 
This ain't the question we should be asking tho, no? A person that already raped a child or committed a murder he no place in society (or in the world altogether)
Life is complicated.

There are multiple different degrees of murder and mitigating factors that could cause a person to be released instead of spending life in prison. I guess if you want an example of such a murder, Gypsy Rose Blanchard is probably a good example.

Regarding rape in particular(child or otherwise), I think justice should first and foremost focus on the needs of the victim. If the damage done is so great that the victim feels the abuser should be put away forever, I think that's fair. But if that's not the case and the victim forgives the abuser in some form and is okay with the abuser getting 5 or 10 years for what they did, I think that's also fair. I don't see how an outsider who has no connection to that specific case has any right to object to that.

I don't know to what degree victims really get their needs honored by the system. My best friend is a lawyer and he's worked with domestic violence victims. From what he told me, it was pretty hard to get his client justice because her abuser's lawyer was playing really dirty.
 
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That's the side effect of no death sentences
Better than sending to death an innocent person.

And I believe that as long people are alive they can change and make the difference even if they don't go out. They have wisdom they can pass to next generation and to people that will go out. Or even to the guards they are in touch everyday.
 
I guess if you want an example of such a murder, Gypsy Rose Blanchard is probably a good example.
That's barely a murder
I don't know to what degree victims really get their needs honored by the system.
Not at all basically. Short prison sentences and the absence of a serious death penalty option are nothing but torture for the victims, their families and every other citizens who doesn't want to become a victim of crime.
 
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