We have one employee who works hard and is productive. But I value him zero and wish we would fire him because he is a child rapist.

People do have value to me and some do not.
Its pretty fucked up that he did that
But I don't see how him being unemployed and on the streets would make society safer.

If ex convicts don't have at least some opportunity to create a life for themselves, then they have no incentive not to re-offend. You can say this person should have never been released, maybe you are right, but he was judged in a court, punished, and has now been released.

The best society can do with these people is keep an eye on them and don't let them get into situations where they can abuse others.
 
Want to know a secret? Those were mostly done by democrat policies. Specifically Biden's crime law.
Biden invented the war on drugs?:wonderland:
Its pretty fucked up that he did that
But I don't see how him being unemployed and on the streets would make society safer.

If ex convicts don't have at least some opportunity to create a life for themselves, then they have no incentive not to re-offend.
Sickos will reoffend one way or another it's not like they live at their workplace and work 24/7
 

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Its pretty fucked up that he did that
But I don't see how him being unemployed and on the streets would make society safer.

If ex convicts don't have at least some opportunity to create a life for themselves, then they have no incentive not to re-offend. You can say this person should have never been released, maybe you are right, but he was judged in a court, punished, and has now been released.

The best society can do with these people is keep an eye on them and don't let them get into situations where they can abuse others.
Don't misunderstand I believe in second chances for the majority of offenders. I believe we should make it easier for them so they don't re-offend. But I can't find that for anyone who harms a child or, certain crimes against women. I am of the belief those particular horrendous crimes should never be in society again.
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Biden invented the war on drugs?:wonderland:

Sickos will reoffend one way or another it's not like they live at their workplace and work 24/7
I'm talking about the 1994 crime bill that increased unreasonable sentences for a multitude of crimes.
 
I am of the belief those particular horrendous crimes should never be in society again.
They kind of already aren't

Don't know where you live but at least in the united states, these people are on a public registry where everyone knows who they are. They aren't allowed to live or go in certain areas. If they don't answer their mail and re-confirm their address with the local authorities once every few months they could be charged with a felony.

And that's on top of whatever prison sentence they serve, which is usually quite severe.
 

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They kind of already aren't

Don't know where you live but at least in the united states, these people are on a public registry where everyone knows who they are. They aren't allowed to live or go in certain areas. If they don't answer their mail and re-confirm their address with the local authorities once every few months they could be charged with a felony.

And that's on top of whatever prison sentence they serve, which is usually quite severe.
I'm from the States too. Then you have to admit it really doesn't stop them from going places or doing other crimes. It's like a restraining order, just a piece of paper.
 
They aren't allowed to live or go in certain areas. If they don't answer their mail and re-confirm their address with the local authorities once every few months they could be charged with a felony.
So what, do you think a Pedo cares about breaking the law?? 🤡 They can be charged with as many felonies as the judge wants it doesn't undo what these sickos have done to their victims
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I'm from the States too. Then you have to admit it really doesn't stop them from going places or doing other crimes. It's like a restraining order, just a piece of paper.
I never understood why restraining orders are a thing.
 
Sickos will reoffend one way or another it's not like they live at their workplace and work 24/7
Actually if you look up the re-offense rates by crimes, I believe sex offenders have the second lowest re-offense rates, with only murderers being above them.

If I were to guess, this is probably due to the length of the prison sentences given to these offenders. A thief can get slapped with a small sentence, come back out, and steal again. But if you do a 10 or 20 year rape charge, and are then released as a registered sex offender, where basically nobody wants to associate with you. There is both not an incentive to reoffend, nor is there really a means to reoffend.

Furthermore, if you've done a heavy sentence and are an old man, statistically you are less likely to engage in crime than a younger person.

So what, do you think a Pedo cares about breaking the law??
Some probably don't. But I'm sure a good amount of them don't want to go back to prison.
 
Actually if you look up the re-offense rates by crimes, I believe sex offenders have the lowest re-offense rates, with only murderers being above them.

If I were to guess, this is probably due to the length of the prison sentences given to these offenders. A thief can get slapped with a small sentence, come back out, and steal again. But if you do a 10 or 20 year rape charge, and are then released as a registered sex offender, where basically nobody wants to associate with you. There is both not an incentive to reoffend, nor is there really a means to reoffend.
This ain't the question we should be asking tho, no? A person that already raped a child or committed a murder he no place in society (or in the world altogether)
 
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We even let murderers out after 10 years or so.
Brazil we allow people to fulfill 2/3 of their sentence in "freedom". We allow all prisoners to got out for holidays, like father day, Christmas and stuff.

Here when one is caught he has to see a judge inside 24h that will grant him freedom because our prisons are overfilled.
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Its pretty fucked up that he did that
But I don't see how him being unemployed and on the streets would make society safer.

If ex convicts don't have at least some opportunity to create a life for themselves, then they have no incentive not to re-offend. You can say this person should have never been released, maybe you are right, but he was judged in a court, punished, and has now been released.

The best society can do with these people is keep an eye on them and don't let them get into situations where they can abuse others.
I don't understand exactly how and why I have to study on that but here in Brazil is against the law to put prisoners to work. But I remember seeing on TV a prison that did that and when the workers got out they remained as employees of that said company.

There are criminals and criminals. And in this case pedo, rape and incest(not sure if it is a crime there) it is one of the worsts. Even more with the guy admitting himself we can't even play the ignorance card like maybe it was false accused or shit.
 

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Three-year recidivism Rate of Sexual assaults. I'm gonna assume this includes those against minors since it doesn't say and doesn't have a separate section for it. This is from cga.ct.gov

42% rearrested, 23% reconvicted and 16% reprisoned.

Way higher numbers than acceptable. Which no number is acceptable in my opinion.
 
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I am of the belief those particular horrendous crimes should never be in society again.
Life sentence... There are some ideas for chemical castration in cases of rape for example. My only issue with those is that sometimes justice is unfair and punishes innocents. Specially talking about rape that is such a difficult crime to prove.
 

Zemmi

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Life sentence... There are some ideas for chemical castration in cases of rape for example. My only issue with those is that sometimes justice is unfair and punishes innocents. Specially talking about rape that is such a difficult crime to prove.
I know many women who falsely accused men of things which is why I never jumped on the idea of believing all women.
 
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