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If the damage done is so great that the victim feels the abuser should be put away forever, I think that's fair. But if that's not the case and the victim forgives the abuser in some form and is okay with the abuser getting 5 or 10 years for what they did, I think that's also fair. I don't see how an outsider who has no connection to that specific case has any right to object to that.
What the hell? You just killed justice. You can't have any of the parties judging the sentence.
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Am I the first person who disgusted Logiko to the point he stopped responding :choppawhat:

I think that is trophy-worthy. Nah, I actually don't mind him and find him amusing.
I wish I could do that

:pepemotion:
 
Three-year recidivism Rate of Sexual assaults. I'm gonna assume this includes those against minors since it doesn't say and doesn't have a separate section for it. This is from cga.ct.gov

42% rearrested, 23% reconvicted and 16% reprisoned.

Way higher numbers than acceptable. Which no number is acceptable in my opinion.
What I was talking about was from a wikipedia article I read on the topic a while back
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender

According to the OJP,[10] the recidivism rate for sex offenders has been shown to be lower than any other crime except murder in New York State. Another report from the OJP which studied the recidivism of prisoners released in 1994 in 15 states (accounting for two-thirds of all prisoners released in the United States that year) reached the same conclusion.[11]
I will note tho, OJP also says that the underreporting of sex crimes could be a reason why these rates are that low.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
I mean I don't understand what effect they have. Isn't it just a piece of paper? The offender can still do whatever he/she wants as long as they are not supervised
They are just a piece of paper. And some people might respect them, but when a person decides not to, it will be really bad because they already plan to do something horrible to break the law. That's why I think overall they are useless.

I also know, that sometimes domestic violence isn't taken seriously against women.
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What I was talking about was from a wikipedia article I read on the topic a while back
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_offender



I will note tho, OJP also says that the underreporting of sex crimes could be a reason why these rates are that low.
Yes they are very unreported much like domestic violence. They both are way more prevalent than people think.
 
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OJP also says that the underreporting of sex crimes could be a reason why these rates are that low.
I always hears that but how they find that out?

What I hear about rape is that is usually done inside home by family members like in this case we are talking and therefore it is hard for the victim to report since no one would think that of a relative and underages have less credibility. Also that if a woman try to report to a male police officer this one is more likely to ignore.

This is for Brazil.
 
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What's the point then? They get free food and lodging and the victims have to live in constant fear that the criminal may be released early or escape
The point is that from time to time we see people who got in jail even in death row for an incredible amount of time and then was proved to be innocent.
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I think parties should judge

I just think the focus should be on what the victim wants.

If the victim's needs aren't being met, then I can't see how its true justice.
No way. Because victims can ever fully forgive a criminal. We saw this a lot. But then the whole society is in dangerous.
 
What the hell? You just killed justice. You can't have any of the parties judging the sentence.
The word justice can mean anything really:saden::saden:
Yes but then you can call police and have them arrested.
You can also call the police when somebody threatens / assaults you. They arrive 20 minutes after you were already robbed, raped and/or killed:saden:
Yes they are very unreported much like domestic violence. They both are way more prevalent than people think.
They might actually be the norm in relationships:kayneshrug:
What I hear about rape is that is usually done inside home by family members
Murders are also mire likely to be committed by a family member or friend.
 
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Not saying the victim can do whatever they want.

But I think functional justice should try to balance those needs with any mitigating factors for the offender.
The punishment are made to prevent people from doing. If punishment can be lower because victim is a pussy then more people will be inclined to do it. If punishment is harsher because the victim is a psycho then things will start to get unfair.

For example here in Brazil we had people who got sentenced to 17 years of prison because they protested against elections. Meanwhile we have robbers and criminals that got way less of a sentence IF they got sentenced at all because we have several mechanism that allows then to get away or leave prison earlier. It is ridiculous.

Some time ago a guy jumped inside a school for children (below 5 years old not sure how is it called. Day care?) With an axe and killed a bunch of them. It was found that he already went to jail 4 times but didn't got arrested the time it was at law. It is ridiculous the justice system around here.
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You can also call the police when somebody threatens / assaults you. They arrive 20 minutes after you were already robbed, raped and/or killed:saden:
Still better than nothing. It helps even if by a little.
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Murders are also mire likely to be committed by a family member or friend.
Didn't knew that. But we have some disturbing cases here. A daughter that killed both parents because they didn't accepted her relationship with her boyfriend.

Also some parents that kills their child.
 
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Pretty much region thing you should be about to protect and help where you live.

For example my importance tier list would be something like Me > My family > My friends > My neighborhood > My city > My state > My country > My region (South America then America) > Western World > Planet Earth > Solar System > Milky Galaxy > My universe
 
Pretty much region thing you should be about to protect and help where you live.

For example my importance tier list would be something like Me > My family > My friends > My neighborhood > My city > My state > My country > My region (South America then America) > Western World > Planet Earth > Solar System > Milky Galaxy > My universe
Good for you.
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Am I the first person who disgusted Logiko to the point he stopped responding :choppawhat:

I think that is trophy-worthy. Nah, I actually don't mind him and find him amusing.
Because you're not biting. He purposely tries to get aggressive responses for "right wing toxicity". It's hard for him to assume a moral high ground when he replies to you and has already looked like an ass with his premature assumptions.
 
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