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I would rather say spiritual. Even me who is extremelly materialist can be very spiritual at time. But rather than finding the research for spiritual awakening in religion or faith or magic stuff, I will rather search it in science, in the unknown and in the potential of humanity for greatness.
And yet, this is all that is One Piece. In more ways than most stories in fact, this is precisely why it can be compared sometimes to great forging myth or great mythological tales like The Odyssey.
I am. The escapism is just a false excuse to avoid what is already there. Politics, even if Mods are denying it, are ALL OVER THE PLACE in this forum, they are just ignored and in the shadows. My place is to question them and therefore bring them to the light in order to better the discussion which can result in a better environment, better poster, a better forum and ultimately, a better fanbase.
Politics are the conflict of values. As such, politics always make the world better. Its the absence and the restriction of politization that creates chaos. You can check everywhere in the world. When political discussions are suppressed, the environment is hostile to people. And what can be said for the world, a country or a community, can be said for a simple fanbase or a forum as well.
Yes. Politic is conflict. There is no politic without that principle.
That's what you think. But in reality, there are deeper reason why there was a battle with two major characters in the story among the fans.
Those reasons are deeper than just the story or the character's journey. The reason are political. Political in the sence that each character has raised a certain number of values in each fanbase, values that went in conflict with each others.
So behind the Carrot VS Yamato war, there was a political conflict at play. The conflict of two sets of values and a battle to see which ones would prevail.
Again. Politics had all its place in this thread.
And yet, this is all that is One Piece. In more ways than most stories in fact, this is precisely why it can be compared sometimes to great forging myth or great mythological tales like The Odyssey.
I am. The escapism is just a false excuse to avoid what is already there. Politics, even if Mods are denying it, are ALL OVER THE PLACE in this forum, they are just ignored and in the shadows. My place is to question them and therefore bring them to the light in order to better the discussion which can result in a better environment, better poster, a better forum and ultimately, a better fanbase.
Politics are the conflict of values. As such, politics always make the world better. Its the absence and the restriction of politization that creates chaos. You can check everywhere in the world. When political discussions are suppressed, the environment is hostile to people. And what can be said for the world, a country or a community, can be said for a simple fanbase or a forum as well.
Yes. Politic is conflict. There is no politic without that principle.
That's what you think. But in reality, there are deeper reason why there was a battle with two major characters in the story among the fans.
Those reasons are deeper than just the story or the character's journey. The reason are political. Political in the sence that each character has raised a certain number of values in each fanbase, values that went in conflict with each others.
So behind the Carrot VS Yamato war, there was a political conflict at play. The conflict of two sets of values and a battle to see which ones would prevail.
Again. Politics had all its place in this thread.
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There are good people among liberals, anyway noone should be put in Jail because of their political beliefs.
I'm not. Not as Europe is right now.
I'm for the CONCEPT of Europe and the possibility of a strong potential super nation that could emerge because of the common history of the people. Something that could evolve further into an even bigger common international nation that we would call humanity.
But sadly, we went a little bit too fast with our current Europe, so we might need to rethink that system a bit (for now). We are not ready as a specie for that type of supersystem just yet, we are bound to make too many mistakes and creates a really bad system.
So i'm on the same line as LFI right now. Even if I hope that someday we can create something better together in Europe.
There are good people among liberals, anyway noone should be put in Jail because of their political beliefs.
I'm not. Not as Europe is right now.
I'm for the CONCEPT of Europe and the possibility of a strong potential super nation that could emerge because of the common history of the people. Something that could evolve further into an even bigger common international nation that we would call humanity.
But sadly, we went a little bit too fast with our current Europe, so we might need to rethink that system a bit (for now). We are not ready as a specie for that type of supersystem just yet, we are bound to make too many mistakes and creates a really bad system.
So i'm on the same line as LFI right now. Even if I hope that someday we can create something better together in Europe.
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Because it is.
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.
Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.
And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.
And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.
Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.
And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.
And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
Because it is.
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.
Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.
And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.
And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.
Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.
And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.
And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
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I'm pretty sure most of LFI are against a supernation.
Because it is.
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.
Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.
And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.
And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
Like we thought. Communist. Except that communist actually kill alphabet and people from other race.
You already killed freedom on the paragraph above.
It looks interesting but I really doubt it would practically work. People has their own lives to take care instead of focusing too much on politics like we do.
That's exactly why it wouldn't work this society it would collapse because I see the majority naive of people voting for shit like that which looks good on paper without understanding a shit about economics and how this would ruin the country.
Minimal wage only purpose is to create unemployment. It was made right after abolition of slavery to prevent blacks from taking the jobs of whites by being less paid. What raises the salary of an employer is his productivity, his skills making him a valuable asset of the company and a rare employee to get, and the demand/offert that this employee have. If we only had known teacher in USA for example this teacher would be the richest person in the world because everyone would be in need of a teacher and then the person can higher the value of work a lot.
And what you even mean with refound the police? The people who are wiling to work as police is pretty much there already. Such a thing would just higher the chance of criminals getting inside it earlier and climbing the positions to the top easier.
Like you denied and I said earlier. You are a communist.
And yet pretty much many if not all State structures around the world can't be saved by a single hero. But enough of them to composite the powers of executive, legislative and of course judgment(not sure if this is the right word) which is the most difficult(at least in my country).
He already had a lingering "QUOTE" in that post which messed you up.
only know I understand who C4N is. 
No its not. Changing capitalism doesn't mean that we aim toward communism. It can be something else.
Communism never existed and no communism wants to kill people based on their identities or color. You are projecting.
Preveventing people from saying things that hurt others is not killing freedom of speech.
Which is a real proposal, there would be actually 20 to 25 % of people choosed at random in such assembly. This would help the diverty of opinions.
This applies to France as I was saying which is a coutnry where people actually care about the politic of their country to a strong degree. In France it would work very well. There would need to be a way to adapt it to other country but in theory it would work for anyone. If you give the choice to people to create a good system, they will take it.
Oh but it would work. And in fact, it was financially demonstrated during the compaign of the party that proposed those mesure.
And what you can see here is really not something extreme. Its actually pretty reasonnable and completely feasible. At least for France. other countries would need some adaptations but this would be basically the same.
We have labor regulations in France and the country did not fall because of that. Paying people and treating people well is a choice.
Which is completely false. Anyone with a minimum wage would make you understand that you can't live with it and anyone would need more. You are falling for capitalist traps.
No lol
In apocalyptic society yes. Not in a progressive world.
BS. ALL employees are assets as long as you give them enough credit, considerations and enough pay. Without employee, there is no compagny. Remember that.
Not even close. There are a lot of people who are skilled but are stomped by society. Put that in your head once and for all :
Meritocracy doesn't exist in our world.
It means:
- Reshape the police structurally
- Make big changes in the education of the police
- Stop putting them into stressfull situations when its not needed
- Stop telling showing them that they are above the law
- Get rid of the bad apples
Still nop. if I was, I would be much more radical.
That's the point, Single heroes don't exist. Merit is a lie.
Those must not in ANY case be considered heroes but citizen. Its the first step in creating a power system that can't be corrupted or corrupt itself.
I'm looking at things a bit farther than LFI, I'm wondering about the situation after they are able to restructure the country correctly. After many decades, maybe a century.. What happens then ? Frontiere will most likely become relics of the past and if that's the case, Europe or somethings else will become a supernation.
As someone with employees, I can promise you they aren't all assets. They cost more money with their carelessness than they provide productivity.
This man who rents a shop from us. He closed his business last week because his employees racked up so many driving infractions he can't get big truck insurance.
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This man who rents a shop from us. He closed his business last week because his employees racked up so many driving infractions he can't get big truck insurance.