Zemmi

GodMommie
People only use trophies to show off
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Pride is a negative habit
I like showing off my accomplishments and others should be proud of theirs as well. But, trophies aren't the only reward system. Rewards come in pay raises, extra perks. Even credit cards and the like offer reward insensitives. It can be stretched even farther, to earning good grades and getting offers others do not for that. It's a system that helps push people to achieve more or in credit cards spend more lol.

I used trophies as symbolism to umbrella all rewards.
 
That's actually racist and communism.
Yeah... Giving a compliment to a worker... Straight communism lol

I know some people here who might actually think that unironically.


Here is a prime example of someone who knows nothing they talk about.
Sure...


There is a reason our good employees stay. Some of them have worked for my father for over thirty years. This line of thinking of yours is delusional when you are not involved in the system.
Me thinking that no human being is inherently bad at working is delusional ? Hm.. sure ..


Companies want the best productivity
Wanting productivity is fine as long as it stays ethical for the workers.

That is why those of value get paid more
while the others stay in a turnover cycle without any forward projection in their careers.
"Those of value" Are you reading what you are typing here ?

That meritocratic cynicism...

What a despicable vision of workers. I'm actually low key disgusted here. Not even kidding (and it takes a lot for me to be disgusted on this forum)
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Yeah... Giving a compliment to a worker... Straight communism lol

I know some people here who might actually think that unironically.



Sure...



Me thinking that no human being is inherently bad at working is delusional ? Hm.. sure ..



Wanting productivity is fine as long as it stays ethical for the workers.




"Those of value" Are you reading what you are typing here ?

That meritocratic cynicism...

What a despicable vision of workers. I'm actually low key disgusted here. Not even kidding (and it takes a lot for me to be disgusted on this forum)
Sometimes reality is harsh and can disgust people. I'm cool with that.
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We have one employee who works hard and is productive. But I value him zero and wish we would fire him because he is a child rapist.

People do have value to me and some do not.
 
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Herrera95

No its not. Changing capitalism doesn't mean that we aim toward communism. It can be something else.
The far from Capitalism the closer to communism even if you aim to stay between. There is nothing besides that.

Communism never existed and no communism wants to kill people based on their identities or color. You are projecting.
Soviet Union.

Preveventing people from saying things that hurt others is not killing freedom of speech.
You are hurting me with your ideas. Stop talking.

Which is a real proposal, there would be actually 20 to 25 % of people choosed at random in such assembly. This would help the diverty of opinions.
My problem with it is how random it actually would be.

This applies to France as I was saying which is a coutnry where people actually care about the politic of their country to a strong degree. In France it would work very well. There would need to be a way to adapt it to other country but in theory it would work for anyone. If you give the choice to people to create a good system, they will take it.
Well I don't know French people so can't tell. I've also heard that Chinese are also very political.

Oh but it would work. And in fact, it was financially demonstrated during the compaign of the party that proposed those mesure.

And what you can see here is really not something extreme. Its actually pretty reasonnable and completely feasible. At least for France. other countries would need some adaptations but this would be basically the same.

We have labor regulations in France and the country did not fall because of that. Paying people and treating people well is a choice.
This doesn't work even inside the house with your own family. Imagine in a country.

Which is completely false. Anyone with a minimum wage would make you understand that you can't live with it and anyone would need more. You are falling for capitalist traps.
Like I said minimum wage is meant to create unemployment. I forgot to add that also illegal or informal work too. Not everyone even completes high school. Even less college. Some people can't produce enough to be paid minimum wage therefore you won't get hired. This is specially prejudicial to Youngs trying to join the market and get their first job since you can see that most ads of hiring requires experience.

And dude for God Sakes France has similar level as Brazil in unemployment. That's very high. You really want to destroy the country and see people miserable in poverty. All you care is about the few ones that will remain with the increased minimum wage while a lot more join the unemployment.

Here in Brazil we had the political promise of nursery area to be raid their minimum wage. There are 2 "famous" nurses that made a video saying thanks to Bolsonaro for passing the bill but then saying they would vote for Lula because the two things were unrelated. And the end Lula got elected and removed the raise of their minimum wage. They got mad, protested but ended up without it which is a good thing but not before the employees got fired previously because they knew they wouldn't be able to afford the new wage. So like I said people got unemployment because of it.

In the United States, the late 19th-century ideas for favoring a minimum wage also coincided with the eugenics movement. As a consequence, some economists at the time, including Royal Meeker and Henry Rogers Seager, argued for the adoption of a minimum wage not only to support the worker, but to support their desired semi- and skilled laborers while forcing the undesired workers (including the idle, immigrants, women, racial minorities, and the disabled) out of the labor market. The result, over the longer term, would be to limit the nondesired workers' ability to earn money and have families, and thereby, remove them from the economists' ideal society.[20]

In apocalyptic society yes. Not in a progressive world.
Wtf? Then what will do the raise if production remains the same? You really knows nothing about economics.

BS. ALL employees are assets as long as you give them enough credit, considerations and enough pay. Without employee, there is no compagny. Remember that.
What is bullshit? I'm not denting that. I'm saying that an employee that is more skilled is more valuable asset than others. And if there is a need to cut someone out than the less profitable will go.

Not even close. There are a lot of people who are skilled but are stomped by society. Put that in your head once and for all :

Meritocracy doesn't exist in our world.
Meritocracy does exists. It is not simple as just being skilled. I used just for example to be understood. Your skills has to be useful and today world (better start learning how to improve your work with AI you hater) and you need to learn how to sell yourself as a worker.

It is an insane statement to say that meritocracy doesn't work. If you don't work hard and study you won't be able to even get a job even less a good one.

It means:
- Reshape the police structurally
- Make big changes in the education of the police
- Stop putting them into stressfull situations when its not needed
- Stop telling showing them that they are above the law
- Get rid of the bad apples
What is the reshape in its structure that police needs?

What is the big change in education of the police that it needs?

What kind of stressful situations that are not needed?

Who says they are above the law?

Who are the bad apples?

That's the point, Single heroes don't exist. Merit is a lie.
There are single heroes. I've saw many times at instagram reels the little boy who saved his sister from a dog attack (I believe it was a pitbull) he is a hero. But to change a whole society it can't be a one man job even if he is a dictator.

Merit does exist. One thing has nothing to do with the other. You are just denying reality like you do when claiming your gender nonsense.

Those must not in ANY case be considered heroes but citizen. Its the first step in creating a power system that can't be corrupted or corrupt itself.
Governament employees (I see politicians as employees) that fights corruption and to make the world better must be considered heroes. Bolsonaro is a hero. Trump is a hero. Lula and Biden are criminals that shouldn't be I'm power. While also the whole corrupted system that allowed them to get their. The media or in Brazil case the judgement system.
 
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Herrera95

There are good employees, but there is an equal amount of bad employees. So we compete with other companies to get the good ones and let the bad ones go.
He is right. They are assets but they can fuck you up because of those woke rights they believe workers should have. Then business go bankruptcy but the said employee got his part before that while all the others who did nothing wrong suffer from unemployment. So that employee is basically a criminal. No wonder why criminals like the left so much. Lula had the majority of votes in prison. And by a lot. They cheered for him there. Lula and his ex Justice minister had free pass to enter a Favela dominated by a criminal faction during elections.

Here in Brazil we have a bad costumer code that allows people who have nothing better to do to stay at justice department suing a lot of companies everyday. They lost most cases but it costs them nothing but sometimes they won.

And talking about work. We have justice of work here, and there is a consensus that the employee is always the weak link and must be favored in their decisions. So even if the company is inside the law they find a way to benefit the employee.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Right the value of a human being depends on how much they work for a company🤡
There are different values. Which I pointed out with an example of one of our employees. People have different values.

I have zero value as a mechanic.
Zero value as truck driver.
My value lies in accounting, bookkeeping, and preparing bids.

I would be stupid to find value for myself in fields, I have none.
 
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Herrera95

Here is a prime example of someone who knows nothing they talk about. There is a reason our good employees stay. Some of them have worked for my father for over thirty years. This line of thinking of yours is delusional when you are not involved in the system.

Companies want the best productivity, so they get more value. That is why those of value get paid more, promotions and are kept around longer, while the others stay in a turnover cycle without any forward projection in their careers.
Nah. Reduce their wage by half and daily compliment their work then tell Logiko how your business improved.
 
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Herrera95

We have one employee who works hard and is productive. But I value him zero and wish we would fire him because he is a child rapist.

People do have value to me and some do not.
What his history? He paid his years in prison, got free and started work for you?

Well I know it is hard but the guy needs to get inside the society again...
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The sicko even told people it wasn't his fault because his daughter seduced him to do it.
The fuck. Alabama? And even with those poor excuses. He is probably the ones who justify rape because the woman was dressed as a slut in his terms.
 
I'm still trying to find out why he was let out of prison. My dad only hired him because one of our valued employees begged him to.

The sicko even told people it wasn't his fault because his daughter seduced him to do it.
Pretty likely the guy still has CP on his devices. Try to catch him red handed or set him up so he goes back to prison. I thought inmates in American prisons are known to send these creatures back to meet their creator?
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There are different values. Which I pointed out with an example of one of our employees. People have different values.

I have zero value as a mechanic.
Zero value as truck driver.
My value lies in accounting, bookkeeping, and preparing bids.

I would be stupid to find value for myself in fields, I have none.
i wouldnt use the word value here
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
Pretty likely the guy still has CP on his devices. Try to catch him red handed or set him up so he goes back to prison. I thought inmates in American prisons are known to send these creatures back to meet their creator?
I think our laws are too relaxed tbh. There aren't death penalty sentences (that'd never be carried out anyways) unless it involves murder with some pretty gruesome facts.

We even let murderers out after 10 years or so.

Daryl Brookes got several get-out-of-jail-free cards before he drove through the parade and killed several people. Even though he had shown he was a danger to society.
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I guess the blessing hidden in the shit, is he works with all males and not in a public capacity.
 
I think our laws are too relaxed tbh. There aren't death penalty sentences (that'd never be carried out anyways) unless it involves murder with some pretty gruesome facts.

We even let murderers out after 10 years or so.

Daryl Brookes got several get-out-of-jail-free cards before he drove through the parade and killed several people. Even though he had shown he was a danger to society.
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I guess the blessing hidden in the shit, is he works with all males and not in a public capacity.
But lengthy sentences for drug consumption 🤡
 
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