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Second, would you be ok with a remake of Bad Boys, but instead of Will Smith and Martin Lawrence, playing the iconic Mike Lowrey and Marcus Burnett, we just change them to white boys? I don't think I would be a fan.
Actually no reason for this not to work.
 
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transgenderism is still a thing though, with differing brain activity from the actual sex for example.
It used to be considered brain damage and now it is getting normal having people to believe they are animals and plants.
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It's a multitude of factors.

1) Biden is completely senile and they try their hardest to hide them, and it makes people lose faith in Biden.

2) Every time someone big or controversial happens, like with Epstein or Hunter Biden, they always focus on or blame Trump.

3) Their obsession with Trump only begged the question as to why don't they have the same energy with other corrupt politicians, which made it obvious they were only trying to kick him out the election race.

4) Republican presidential representive Nikki Haley was revealed to be a democratic plant, as all her endorsements, financial donations and policies were from the democratic party.
I think it is amazing how similar situation Brazil is in.
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It would bomb, as it should. Make something unique.
I thought you were talking about first movie
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
It used to be considered brain damage and now it is getting normal having people to believe they are animals and plants.
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I think it is amazing how similar situation Brazil is in.
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I thought you were talking about first movie
I actually don't watch remakes of any movie for any reason. I don't watch sequels either if they can't gather most of the original cast. Also no replacing characters with different actors & god forbid they kill my favorite character, I will boycott the show till the end of time. So I'm picky.
 
I actually don't watch remakes of any movie for any reason. I don't watch sequels either if they can't gather most of the original cast. Also no replacing characters with different actors & god forbid they kill my favorite character, I will boycott the show till the end of time. So I'm picky.
I never liked Mark Ruffalo replacing Edward Norton as the Hulk, but that's just me.
 

Uncle Van

Humans Evolve. Taxes Never Do.
I actually don't watch remakes of any movie for any reason. I don't watch sequels either if they can't gather most of the original cast. Also no replacing characters with different actors & god forbid they kill my favorite character, I will boycott the show till the end of time. So I'm picky.
I also can't stand it when they introduce new protagonists and shit on the older characters to make the new ones look better.
 
I actually don't watch remakes of any movie for any reason. I don't watch sequels either if they can't gather most of the original cast. Also no replacing characters with different actors & god forbid they kill my favorite character, I will boycott the show till the end of time. So I'm picky.
It's always just fan service. They are not trying to make an artwork
 
Remember what we were saying about Dawkins @Zenos7



Here is him in pixel being openly transphobic and explaining that he had fun with Helen Joyce (openly anti-trans personnality)
The truth isnt transphobic. Get over it
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First, I want you to give me a political analysis of the first Twilight movie.
I kinda tried this approach when he made this claim about jokes. Didnt work
 
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what's political about pokemon??
What isnt?
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I don't get Dawkins' point. Even biologically there are intersexual people, who don't have a regular XX or XY chromosome.
Intersex people dont come with a third type of gamete, thats why they dont constitute as an actual sex. Some intersex conditions are still either male/female, others are neither.

And most people dont seem to consider "neither" as a third option to biological sex.
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used to be considered brain damage and now it is getting normal having people to believe they are animals and plants.
Apples and oranges
 
Intersex people dont come with a third type of gamete, thats why they dont constitute as an actual sex. Some intersex conditions are still either male/female, others are neither.

And most people dont seem to consider "neither" as a third option to biological sex.
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Apples and oranges
Lol, that literally overthrows his point. He says it's binary, when it clearly isn't.
 

Zemmi

GodMommie
I don't get Dawkins' point. Even biologically there are intersexual people, who don't have a regular XX or XY chromosome.
I could argue this by biology humans have two eyes, two legs, two arms etc but their is a very small percentage that are anomalies to that biology but it doesn't change its natural structure. I could also add other chromosomal abnormalities as well. Doesn't make them less worthy just different.

But I find debates on this kinda moot because not only can adults live what life makes the happiest they should as long as they don't force it on others. I have the same belief when it comes to religion, people shouldn't be force feed their religion to others, actually this is my belief on many things. Live your best life.
 
ALL STORIES ARE POLITICAL

Simply because ALL stories WITHOUT EXCEPTIONS deliver a vision about the world of an author and values in conflict. Therefore, a political vision.





And because a little bit of sweetness doesn't hurt anyone.. Let's take for example the example of POKEMON and my little favorite of the very last bunch of episodes from Pokemon Horizon (Spoilers). I will deconstruct this episode and then explain why it political:

Episode 40: "The treasure that washed ashore - Farewell Nyahoja?"

In this episode, Liko is having a battle with her Nyahoja (who is a bit stronger than the usual Nyahoja) against Roy and his Hogator.



But in the meantime, her Terapagos starts to walk into the battle out of nowhere. Nyahoja attacks Hogator, who dodges, and Liko jumps to protect Terapagos from the attack of her Nyahoja.




Liko falls and hurt her wrist, which shocks Nyahoja.



Liko is okay and reassure her with a smile, but her Nyahoja is feeling very down by this and she quits the ship to head toward a cat house she noticed earlier in the episode with a surprised face (we don't know what this house is)



Liko who is looking for her pokemon, follows her lead toward the house that ends up being a care center for cat pokemon before they are given to trainers. The caretaker explains that Liko's Nyahoja was actually raised here and that she never forgets a face.



She explains that Liko's Nyahoja was actually quite unique. That she had troubled fitting in with the rest of the pokemon.



The caretaker also explain that some pokemons come back here because they do not get along well with their trainer and that pokemon and trainer therefore sometimes have to stop being partners, which shocks Liko.



Liko jumps into the garden to look for Nyahoja that she found on the roof. The Nyahoja notice her wrist bandage and flees her. Liko doesn't understands, she follows her into the house and the garden but Nyahoja just doesn't listen. Liko tries to grab her to try to understand what is happening but Nyahoja ends up scratching Liko's hand.



Not knowing what to do. Liko comes back to the house where the Caretaker explains her taht her and Nyahoja are actually quite alike. She explains that Nyahoja used to spend her time on the roof bored and not wanting to play with others (most likely because she had trouble fitting in, just like Liko who is extremely cerebral)



But one day.. when the Pokemon were playing on the roof, one of the Nyahoja fell after an missed attack..



And.. Liko's Nyahoja saved the pokemon because of her strong power



Which.. helped her integrate the group. With the help of her strong power, she could help harvest fruit for her new friend and protect them..



At least that's what she thought.. Because one day, a Pokemon a Wanaider trapped the group into its grip. Nyahoja thought that she could use her power to help her friends...



.. but ended up hurting all of them because of the strenght of her power.



Which obviously shook all the Nyahoja included Liko's which started to be fear by the little group



Nyahoja depressed, went back on the roof... And Liko remembers that at first Nyahoja had trouble using Leafage, but she ended up being able to give a strong attack once she trusted Liko.



Liko understands that Nyahoja must be afraid that she abandons her like her old friends did at the time and that's why she came to the house. The care taker explains that is why it was such a relief to see her face in the rotom phone "that" day of the pokemon selection. Because Nyahoja couldn't stop glazing at Liko's face.



So Liko goes back to the garden and grabs Nyahoja once again.. but this time, Liko is not scared to be scratched, because she has something to say to her ...





"You scratched me when we first met, too"
"So many things started on that day.. My heart's been pounding ever since."
"Being kidnapped... Jumping from roofs, running around.. going to unfamiliar towns.. So many things that felt new and scary.."
"But because I had you with me, I was always smiling in the end. No matter how scary or how tought it might be..."



And thus, Liko and Nyahoja reunites..



Love love love.. yes... Thing is.. Liko's pokemon are quite a bunch.. and when we ask them to stay on the ship, they follow you and ends up kidnapped.. And so, Nyahoja is facing the same situation once again...



But this time she her friend's guidance with her.



And thus Nyahoja overcome the fear and use Leafage once again.. wait.. no. not leafage. Magical Leaf, a new move !



She manages to save her friend.

And at the end of the episode.. she face again Hogator and uses her new move, which makes them win the fight.



The end.

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My point is that there are no little stories and that all stories are political, even when you don't realize it.

In this little and simple (but great story) multiple messages are delivered by the authors and multiple values are put in conflict:

- We need to help our friends overcome their own personnal conflict with love and not violence.
- We need to overcomes our fear of the unknown to grow
- We must not fear to help people in distress because of our power
- We must not exclude ourself from the world because of our mistakes
- We must accept the pain of others, even when it hurts
Etc.

With values in conflict such as:

- Fear / Courage
- Despair / Optimism
- Exclusion / Inclusion
- Sadness / Acceptance
- Abandon / Friendship
etc.

Both represented simultaniously by Nyahoja and Liko.


You might think that those are simple values and messages, but they are not. Yes in Pokemon, that is made for kids, those values are more liberals and a bit soften.. but they are not less impactfull or important.

All those message about the way to act in society and values are some of the brick needed for the foundations of a good society.

So, even when stories are simple (meaning simple, not bad) short and made for kids.. they will ALWAYS have those messages about the way to act in the world and values getting along..

And all of this make this story, like every others.. political.

Again:

EVERY STORIES ARE POLITICAL
 
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Zemmi

GodMommie
So you are agreeing with what he is saying and what he stands for here ?

Just to be sure:kayneshrug:

Because I don't think you understand the statement you just made here..


+1. Taking about binary sex to begin with is problematic on a scientific point of view.


Anarchism, no different from communism ? hm... are you sure about that mate ?



Actually, this time we do. Capitalism does exist. What you may be referencing is liberatarianism.



Why do you assume that there will be corruption in the random democratic process ? We are talking about France here, not Russia.



This has absolutely nothing to do with the subject.



Nop. People like me who are unemployed should be paid too actually. That's why we will ask the rich to accept a big taxation, so that there is an equilibrium mate :)



Actually I'm pretty sure that if you pay people more, they will most likely be happier and more happy to work for you and therefore be much more productive or help the company to be more productive. But hey... maybe you prefer to keep them in financial insecurity for more productivity... lets see what model will work the best !
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Sure mate. Keep nightmaring.. we will build a better society without you in the meantime


Bro, you don't understand, this isn't a choice, this is the law. Each worker needs to be paid the minimum wage in France when they have a salary and work fulltime. And unemployed people are also paid (or helped if you prefer) mate (for example, I am and I can't work). Its less than the minimum wage, and its not enough to live, but its already something.

Minimum wage is not an option mate. It should be a right.



I hate the poor by saying that we need to tax rich people to give more to the poor ? I feel like you don't even understand what you are saying sometimes ...




Yeah.. you have some reading comprehension problems.. I don't know how to fix that.

Again and with fewer words for you:

Meritocracy = will never exist
Meritocracy as a system = do not exist
The liberal system believing in meritocracy = do exist


I have.. that's precisely why I ask you to learn about sociology. Those are real data mate. Educate yourself.



Nop + existentialism = bunch of BS



Not communist, sorry.


See.. that's where your true color shines.... poor people for you are poor because they are "not intelligent" enough.

That's the problem with meritocracy. Its not a just belief. Its an oppressive one.


Spoilers: libertarians are the evolved form of liberals. You have the same values. You guyz are both dark type of pokemons.



Which is desinformation again. Hamas is indeed a resistant group that is antisionist and has members that did a war crime, YES. But there is no evidences suggesting that the group is aiming at the extinction of jews mate. You are referring to an outdated text that didn't made the unanimity to begin with.

Are there people who want the end of jews in Hamas ? Probably.
Is this the target of the group ? Most likely not since the group is restructed every years with new uninformed young members.
Is resistance illegitimate against Israel ? Not at all.

And you are still denying a genocide :)



Which is debatable to begin with : Sources ?

But also not necessaraly due to capitalism... and even then... how many years ago was capitalism created again ? We will need to wait how many more centuries before seeing the end of poverty Mr Ford ?

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Euh... Its gonna be complicated, I didn't see the movie.. Ask me for Star Wars if you want but Twilight... i'm not getting close to that stuff anytime soon. Sorry lol



Of course, that could be fun. More complicated since Bad Boys mainly stands because of its sexist and macho tropes but I guess we can cook something fun if we think hard enough. We could for example embrace completely the misandric aspect of the characters, push the cursor to the extrem caricatural limits (while keeping the story coherent politically and not fall into liberal BS) and do a Death Proof like movie while keeping the character touching and deeply sensitive.

Actually, that's a good idea for a movie. I would watch that. That's would be pretty cool.


Do white boyz are oppressed systematically by society ? Do we need that representation of that color swap ? You may have you answer here..



Politics means the conflict of values and a vision on how to act in society. ALL stories have that without exception (I can tell you that precisely because that is one thing I had to learn to create stories).

No one can escape the political nature of stories, not even writers. You can have non political movies, but those will not be stories, its will be experimental movies about a plant in a pot.


That's a very good question. Actually you can check all the episode of pokemon and ALL without exception will deliver a vision and values in conflict. Therefore, a political vision.

And because a little bit of sweetness doesn't hurt anyone.. Let's take for example my little favorite of the very last bunch of episode from Pokemon Horizon (Spoilers) :

Episode 40: "The treasure that washed ashore - Farewell Nyahoja?"

In this episode, Liko is having a battle with her Nyahoja (who is a bit stronger than the usual Nyahoja) against Roy and his Hogator.



But in the meantime, her Terapagos starts to walk into the battle out of nowhere. Nyahoja attacks Hogator, who dodges, and Liko jumps to protect Terapagos from the attack of her Nyahoja.




Liko falls and hurt her wrist, which shocks Nyahoja.



Liko is okay and reassure her with a smile, but her Nyahoja is feeling very down by this and she quits the ship to head toward a cat house she noticed earlier in the episode with a surprised face (we don't know what this house is)



Liko who is looking for her pokemon, follows her lead toward the house that ends up being a care center for cat pokemon before they are given to trainers. The caretaker explains that Liko's Nyahoja was actually raised here and that she never forgets a face.



She explains that Liko's Nyahoja was actually quite unique. That she had troubled fitting in with the rest of the pokemon.



The caretaker also explain that some pokemons come back here because they do not get along well with their trainer and that pokemon and trainer therefore sometimes have to stop being partners, which shocks Liko.



Liko jumps into the garden to look for Nyahoja that she found on the roof. The Nyahoja notice her wrist bandage and flees her. Liko doesn't understands, she follows her into the house and the garden but Nyahoja just doesn't listen. Liko tries to grab her to try to understand what is happening but Nyahoja ends up scratching Liko's hand.



Not knowing what to do. Liko comes back to the house where the Caretaker explains her taht her and Nyahoja are actually quite alike. She explains that Nyahoja used to spend her time on the roof bored and not wanting to play with others (most likely because she had trouble fitting in, just like Liko who is extremely cerebral)



But one day.. when the Pokemon were playing on the roof, one of the Nyahoja fell after an missed attack..



And.. Liko's Nyahoja saved the pokemon because of her strong power



Which.. helped her integrate the group. With the help of her strong power, she could help harvest fruit for her new friend and protect them..



At least that's what she thought.. Because one day, a Pokemon a Wanaider trapped the group into its grip. Nyahoja thought that she could use her power to help her friends...



.. but ended up hurting all of them because of the strenght of her power.



Which obviously shook all the Nyahoja included Liko's which started to be fear by the little group



Nyahoja depressed, went back on the roof... And Liko remembers that at first Nyahoja had trouble using Leafage, but she ended up being able to give a strong attack once she trusted Liko.



Liko understands that Nyahoja must be afraid that she abandons her like her old friends did at the time and that's why she came to the house. The care taker explains that is why it was such a relief to see her face in the rotom phone "that" day of the pokemon selection. Because Nyahoja couldn't stop glazing at Liko's face.



So Liko goes back to the garden and grabs Nyahoja once again.. but this time, Liko is not scared to be scratched, because she has something to say to her ...





"You scratched me when we first met, too"
"So many things started on that day.. My heart's been pounding ever since."
"Being kidnapped... Jumping from roofs, running around.. going to unfamiliar towns.. So many things that felt new and scary.."
"But because I had you with me, I was always smiling in the end. No matter how scary or how tought it might be..."



And thus, Liko and Nyahoja reunites..



Love love love.. yes... Thing is.. Liko's pokemon are quite a bunch.. and when we ask them to stay on the ship, they follow you and ends up kidnapped.. And so, Nyahoja is facing the same situation once again...



But this time she her friend's guidance with her.



And thus Nyahoja overcome the fear and use Leafage once again.. wait.. no. not leafage. Magical Leaf, a new move !



She manages to save her friend.

And at the end of the episode.. she face again Hogator and uses her new move, which makes them win the fight.



The end.

-------------------

My point is that there are no little stories and that all stories are political, even when you don't realize it.

In this little and simple (but great story) multiple messages are delivered by the authors and multiple values are put in conflict:

- We need to help our friends overcome their own personnal conflict with love and not violence.
- We need to overcomes our fear of the unknown to grow
- We must not fear to help people in distress because of our power
- We must not exclude ourself from the world because of our mistakes
- We must accept the pain of others, even when it hurts
Etc.

With values in conflict such as:

- Fear / Courage
- Despair / Optimism
- Exclusion / Inclusion
- Sadness / Acceptance
- Abandon / Friendship
etc.

Both represented simultaniously by Nyahoja and Liko.


You might think that those are simple values and messages, but they are not. Yes in Pokemon, that is made for kids, those values are more liberals and a bit soften.. but they are not less impactfull or important.

All those message about the way to act in society and values are some of the brick needed for the foundations of good society.

So, even when stories are simple (and not bad) short and made for kids.. they will ALWAYS have those messages about the way to act in the world and values getting along..

And all of this make this story, like every others.. political.

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So.. now.. imagine when we are talking about One Piece @TheAncientCenturion
Macho stereotypes are the best ones. I'm part of a book club you should see some of the stuff those women want to read. Lol.
 
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