Controversial General Political Discussion

[Logiko]

Sex is determined by a combination of biological attributes, often referred to as sex characteristics. These characteristics can be broadly categorized into three areas:

• Chromosomes: In humans, sex is typically determined by two chromosomes, X and Y. Females normally have XX chromosomes, while males have XY chromosomes. However, there can be variations in chromosome makeup.
• Anatomy: This includes a person's reproductive organs (genitals) and other physical features influenced by sex hormones.
• Hormones: Sex hormones, like estrogen and testosterone, play a role in the development of sex characteristics and influence functions like reproduction.
• pen_spark

Good point. But in the usual language "sex" means "genitalia", so when I'm saying this:

"
So to the question :
"can we change reproductive organs ?" The answer is "probably, but lets wait a bit longer tho"

And to the question:
"can we change sex ?" The answer is : yes
"

.. I'm refering to sex in the usual language. But yes technically you can't change ALL sexual characteristics (like you chromosomes), at least not in the near future. Which is irrelevant to begin with in the discussion about transgender since :

Sex (male and female and intersex characteristics) =/= gender (man / woman / genderfluid / etc.)

Therefore when someone is saying "a trans women is not a women", they are not referencing to sexual attribute (female characteristics) but to the gender and identity of the women.. which they are denying.. Making the statement a transphobic one.

So to the question:
"Is saying transwomen are not women transphobic ?" The answer is a BIG yes and it should be treated as such...

Which is something the staff here is not doing..

... Which will put the staff and this forum in trouble in the future, since the One PIece Fanbase is growing toward a more progressive audience.

#HaveFunWithThat

 

[AL sama]

"the definition doesn't go with my agenda so I'm going to make a new one"

 

[Herrera95]

Perhaps, they can only tell women they have to be feminist

I thought men didn't had place of speech!!!

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If a man calls himself a feminist.. be careful. I believe that only a woman can tell a man that he is a feminist. Feminism is not a label you can give to yourself, it the about the actions you make.

 

[Logiko]

"the definition doesn't go with my agenda so I'm going to make a new one"

Actually it does help my agenda. I'm simply mentionning th usual langage which can be different. Let's be intellectually honest here, okay AL ?

 

[Zemmi]

Wondering if there is anything women can do better than men

I might become a feminist.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Wondering if there is anything women can do better than men

I might become a feminist.

Give birth. Something no man can do.

 

[Zemmi]

Give birth. Something no man can do.

Done. Twice.

 

[Zenos7]

Wondering if there is anything women can do better than men

I might become a feminist.

Nope. Didnt we have a transwoman be woman of the year before?

 

[Logiko]

Something no man can do.

Actually some men can give birth:

https://www.parents.com/pregnancy/e...gives-birth-to-healthy-baby-talks-navigating/

Wondering if there is anything women can do better than men

I might become a feminist.

Men only have their physical strenght to their advantage, nothing else (and only a few of them). Don't worry, you can best us in pretty much everything.

 

[Zenos7]

Give birth. Something no man can do.

Transphobia alert

 

[Ravagerblade]

Actually some men can give birth:

https://www.parents.com/pregnancy/e...gives-birth-to-healthy-baby-talks-navigating/



Men only have their physical strenght to their advantage, nothing else (and only a few of them). Don't worry, you can best us in pretty much everything.

Not an actual man. Therefore your post is irrelevant.

 

[Uncle Van]

Pedophiles are tying to get themselves renamed to "Minor Attracted Person", added to the alphabet, and make up their own science and facts about how pedophiles is okay. Everyone, especially those of LGBTQ+, rejects them for obvious reasons, first one being that their delusions goes against reality. Fat Acceptance claimes obesity is healthy, and brings up their own science and facts about how it has nothing to do with diabetes, poor health and early death. They get rejected without consequence because they go against reality. Feminists claim women are equal to men in phyiscal strength and bring up their own sciences and facts to prove it, only to get rejected.

What makes the normal every day trans person so special that their own newly created science and facts that go against reality must be accepted at all costs? The definition of a trans woman is a biological man who identifies as a woman. This definition was very inconvenient when it came to things like sports so they try to change the definition, now we got like 3 different versions with 10 different science based studies....

 

[Zemmi]

I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.

 

[Herrera95]

Give birth. Something no man can do.

Depends who you ask to. Some will say that men are giving birth

 

[Ravagerblade]

I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.

Sounds like you were just tomboyish, no issue there. Haha

 

[Uncle Van]

I understand gender dysphoria and what it means and I get transitioning helps people relieve it. But what is wrong with recognizing there is a difference between trans women and women? Trans women will never have the same lived experience as biological women. I will never have the same experience in life as anyone assigned male at birth and I'm pretty maleish in my behaviors. The running joke when I was kid, was I should've been born a boy. Even had an identity crisis in my teen years, where I thought I was Mike Tyson and stayed in trouble for fights. Even charged and convicted of starting a school fight, which was bs because it didn't even happen on school grounds. Even still, I will relate to other people assigned female at birth experiences.

I mean really explain where I have it wrong and if I'm missing something. Because I don't understand it.

Exactly. Women and trans women have completely different obstacles in life. You were just a tomboy lol.

 

[AL sama]

shouldn't a flat chested woman count as man if they claim lol

 

[Ravagerblade]

shouldn't a flat chested woman count as man if they claim lol

What the fuck? That's just insulting small boobs and at women.

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Woketards, excuse me... Woke people are proven to be Sad (unhappy), Depressed, anxious and Ugly.

 

[Water1415]

That logiko guy really hates his own gender

 

[MangoSenpai]

I just realized something

logko is a feminist. woke, sociologist, psychologist, historian, politician, doctor, businessman, writer, journalist, software engineer, scientist, realist, military person, police, and................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................... a weeb

he knows it all so its pointless to talk with him

I think I know who he is guys