Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

[V2DiabLoO]

That didn't kill Bonney.

That holds off a gorosei right now.

Getting in vs. getting out...

 

[Albino 👑]

Also, it was explicitly said in the manga that Yonko is in balance with Admiral and Warlord, which shows that Yonko is stronger.
In the manga, it was implied that Big Mom could become a Fleet Admiral
In the manga, an admiral is under a yonko
And.......

Yonko being stronger doesn’t mean the gap is gigantic

All that hype just to get oneshot twice in the same arc

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Got oneshot twice in the same arc

Hasn’t been knocked out once

Agree. But I’m not sure he can do it. Lets see.

Aokiji did it (v Akainu, then he wavered against Garp who called him out on it).

Zoros ambition and true nature was sensed by the likes of Mihawk and Kaido. Even King and Marco who had been around Kaido and WB sensed it and knew (more clear with King). But Zoro nearly threw it away because he went against his nature.

Ace did throw away his potential. He didnt think he deserved to live, who knows what he could have done with better sense of self worth (not to be confused with self confidence).

Luffy nearly threw away his ambitions due to depression. Jinbei, Hancock and Rayleigh woke him up.

Moriah threw it away.

Crocodile threw it away before regaining it.

Buggy threw it away before regaining it.

Arlong and Doflamingo kind of kept it but settled for less than maximum.

Kidd if alive…?

As Luffy says - the Pirate King is the most free man on the seas. I guess he means lives the way he loves, in accordance to ones true nature. And that is why WB really was the second PK, he loved his life where as BM and Kaido still tried to Building armys to reach their goals.

Imo Vegapunks speech is going to be what pushes kizaru all out

@Albino 👑 the only Zoro and Sanji match ups i ser are
- Shiryu and Laffitte
- Nasujuro and Marcus
- Mihawk and ????

I don't know who is Sanji final opponent, he's not built like Luffy and Zoro

If we’re including major arcs where Sanji gets a fight too
Imo

1. Mihawk and beckman
2. Shiryu and laffitte
3. Nusjuro and mars and/or hawk and shark
4. Orange and another zodiac

So basically 2 more against pirates and 2 more against the wg

 

[mmd]

Soooo Kiz ain't going all out?

Kiz vs zori?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@Albino 👑 the only Zoro and Sanji match ups i ser are
- Shiryu and Laffitte
- Nasujuro and Marcus
- Mihawk and ????

I don't know who is Sanji final opponent, he's not built like Luffy and Zoro

Maybe Sanjis moment in the final war would be destroying pluton or Uranus? Callback to Sanji messing up the ark maxim

 

[GUI VI]

Yonko being stronger doesn’t mean the gap is gigantic

Hasn’t been knocked out once

Imo Vegapunks speech is going to be what pushes kizaru all out

If we’re including major arcs where Sanji gets a fight too
Imo

1. Mihawk and beckman
2. Shiryu and laffitte
3. Nusjuro and mars and/or hawk and shark
4. Orange and another zodiac

So basically 2 more against pirates and 2 more against the wg

Why would Sanji fight Beckman?

 

[Dragon777]

That holds off a gorosei right now.

Getting in vs. getting out...

That Is quite sad for the Gorosei in question in fact.

Even Bonney aside, Luffy too went in and out even before Kizaru.

 

[Herrera95]

Based on.
But vastly more powerful than Lizaru 1 HP attacks.
Even Radical Beam is stronger than Kizaru 1 HP lasere

Cap

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Why would Sanji fight Beckman?

Mihawk joining shanks copium

 

[V2DiabLoO]

Kiz vs. Zori?

i think this chapter remove's any Kizaru vs option given he was asking to let alone

 

[GUI VI]

Maybe Sanjis moment in the final war would be destroying pluton or Uranus? Callback to Sanji messing up the ark maxim

Mr. Prince returning to destroy an Ancient weapon? Seems cool

 

[Herrera95]

i dont know about "strongest," but my fav just scored a grand slam with multiple goroses, so i think it has to do for now

Yet needed 3 hits to supposedly KO Lucci (not confirmed) when mine one shotted

 

[Paperchampion23]

I understand your thoughs and i'll say my thoughs.

I won't deny, i'm dissapointed let me explain:
- Character wise: He exceeded expectations. Oda did a good job showing the guy who had a "I don't give a fuck about anything" vibe also had feelings and friends.

- Power wise: that's the problem. Kizaru is one of the most hyped characters in OP since 2010. Pika Pika No No is one of the coolest and strongest fruits of the series. The OP fandom has always waited to see the true extent of Kizaru's potential.
And then in Egghead:
- Kizaru fights with Luffy, a horrible fight in my opinion
- Kizaru doesn't fight seriously, the same Laser beams/Light sword attacks and didn't show anything new, besides the clones.
- Self-nerfed the entire arc

Self-nerfed Kizaru makes sense for character development, but hurts Kiz's potential.

The arc isn't over yet but if Kizaru doesn't show his full potential, it will be disappointing.

This is exactly why it annoys me when people accuse me of "agenda" or being an "admiral sucker" just because I WANT him to continue to fight Luffy lol. Like look at my PFP XD

When I want Kizaru to do well its because Ive been invested in payoff all One Piece characters that have been set up for good things, and thats the closest avenue we get to it.

So regardless of what people say, I do expect him to do something immensely important by the arcs end, but my hope is that before that end, he gets to show his potential.

Ive been advocating that the AR holds back the Gorosei, while Kizaru gets to have his moment with Luffy or the endgame of the arc, so personally I need to see where that goes now that its awake.

 

[V2DiabLoO]

That is quite sad for the Gorosei in question, in fact.

Even Bonney aside, Luffy too went in and out even before Kizaru.

or getting in is just that hard...


"even before Kizaru"? What do you mean with that?

 

[Herrera95]

Same way Sanji negged Kaku with bubble

Nope. Kaku was already defeated and being healed. There was no fight. But you can claim similar as Stussy used kairoseki against Lucci.

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And still not Kizaru's power lmao

His merit.

 

[Albino 👑]

Why would Sanji fight Beckman?

Because I think shanks and buggy will team up for some reason or another

 

[Herrera95]

Ironic considering the fact that Kizaru got oneshot twice in the same arc

You don't even know what one shot means. Being hit is not being one shot.

 

[Hunter]

Kizaru is conflicted

 

[Tejas]

That didn't killed Bonney.

Because of Vegapunk soft corner for Bonney

Hasn’t been knocked out once

Nor did any of AdmiraL's opponents through out the series

Cap

Facts

 

[Dragon777]

or getting in is just that hard...


"even before Kizaru"? What do you mean with that?

That the real fight started After.

 

[GUI VI]

This is exactly why it annoys me when people accuse me of "agenda" or being an "admiral sucker" just because I WANT him to continue to fight Luffy lol. Like look at my PFP XD

When I want Kizaru to do well its because Ive been invested in payoff all One Piece characters that have been set up for good things, and thats the closest avenue we get to it.

So regardless of what people say, I do expect him to do something immensely important by the arcs end, but my hope is that before that end, he gets to show his potential.

Ive been advocating that the AR holds back the Gorosei, while Kizaru gets to have his moment with Luffy or the endgame of the arc, so personally I need to see where that goes now that its awake.

Not gonna deny it, Kizaru Awakened would be peak.