Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1111 Spoilers Discussion

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Bogard

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Oda keeps hyping the strength of the Gorosei haki

- Jinbei who sensed Shanks' haki is impressed by Mars' haki
- Zoro and Lucci commenting on the strength of Gorosei's haki
- Walcury's haki affecting all people in the island including Luffy

And they also appear to be mythical zoans with awakening and apparently immortality

So while for plot reasons, they aren't annihilating the alliance right now, I think it's pretty clear they are meant to be top tiers(also the fact they are more focused on stopping Vegapunk's message)

And when you think that they are portrayed as subservients to Imu like the Priests were to Enel in Skypiea, then it should tell you that the power-creep will be insane lol. Likely even the "top tier" range that we used to call until now will be different by EOS
 
He was stalling Zoro for a hot minute with no special hax to do so, remember there was even a panel of Zoro using his PU from the King fight. Then he endured a brutal attack from Zoro which may have even been laced with advCoC.

He broke Sentomaru's defensive barrier.
Don't you think we can consider Lucci to be at least Admiral level?
Same people who claimed both he is YC1 and people underestimate Lucci; by that logic putting him in YC1 range is understatement, so let's put him a tier above?
 
Warcury’s war literally shredded Nika’s body into a thousand different pieces lmfao
What are you talking about? Dropping his eyeballs out at every occasion is literally part of Luffy's form. Blud thinks it's a feat to blast away Luffy's slippers, lol.
Dorry and Broggy outright had to protect Nika from Topman.
Yeah, Dorry and Broggy outright slapping the Gorosei (admirals superiors) back.
 
Why are people saying Lucci couldn't move? Didn't he turn around to face Jimbei/Zoro and even guard against Jimbei's attack?

I think it's obvious Zoro had the fight in the bag but Lucci seemed to be moving albeit probably not well.
Yeah Zoro and luccis fight could’ve continued (likely one more attack would’ve done it) but Jinbe decided there wasn’t time and just got him and Zoro out of there.
 
Lucci couldn't move because he took too much physical damage while Kizaru refuses to move because he's going through a mental breakdown. Both aren't the same thing. Think of this as something similar to what happened to Luffy during MF after Ace's death on a smaller scale of course.
He's probably talking about the WSG, which, yes, stunned Kizaru for a few minutes(?), which is the WSG's objective, a blow that shackles the person's brain and makes them unable to move.
 
Shanks forced an admiral out of his DF form from dozens of miles away
Why are you lying? Nowhere was it said that Aramaki was turned back against his own will.

If Shanks could do that he wouldn't be shitting at Kid's DF and would just defuse Kid with his "wi-fi" haki
2 yonko couldn't do anything with their haki to 5 rookies on the rooftop
Warcury's roar on the other hand did nothing to Luffy. Luffy getting his slippers, eye balls and scar blasted away
it did nothing but it did effect Goofy? Do you even read what you type?
 

Gol D. Roger

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Kizaru couldn't move after being punched by WSG
It wasn't because or mental breakdown.

Except Lucci could still move after Zoro's attack
He's walking and blocking moves
Unlike Kizaru who didn't move for a while after WSG or cymbal attack

The attack stunned Wizaru's brain. It wasn't due to too much damage. The attack is meant to immobilize peeps. Also, Wizaru took a combo of CoA, CoC, and G5 while Lucci didn't get CoC, which makes a huge difference. Not to mention WSG is by far the strongest G5 we've seen sans BG.
 
Elbaf attacks are CoC based
Only the ones with CoC can fully master them

Oda keeps hyping the strength of the Gorosei haki

- Jinbei who sensed Shanks' haki is impressed by Mars' haki
- Zoro and Lucci commenting on the strength of Gorosei's haki
- Walcury's haki affecting all people in the island including Luffy

And they also appear to be mythical zoans with awakening and apparently immortality

So while for plot reasons, they aren't annihilating the alliance right now, I think it's pretty clear they are meant to be top tiers(also the fact they are more focused on stopping Vegapunk's message)

And when you think that they are portrayed as subservients to Imu like the Priests were to Enel in Skypiea, then it should tell you that the power-creep will be insane lol. Likely even the "top tier" range that we used to call until now will be different by EOS
It is bound to happen

EoS Luffy, eos Teach and Imu will be able to 1v2 Yonko or 1v3 Admirals and still win
 
Oda keeps hyping the strength of the Gorosei haki

- Jinbei who sensed Shanks' haki is impressed by Mars' haki
- Zoro and Lucci commenting on the strength of Gorosei's haki
- Walcury's haki affecting all people in the island including Luffy

And they also appear to be mythical zoans with awakening and apparently immortality

So while for plot reasons, they aren't annihilating the alliance right now, I think it's pretty clear they are meant to be top tiers(also the fact they are more focused on stopping Vegapunk's message)

And when you think that they are portrayed as subservients to Imu like the Priests were to Enel in Skypiea, then it should tell you that the power-creep will be insane lol. Likely even the "top tier" range that we used to call until now will be different by EOS
You can add to your list that Zoro ignored Shanks' haki.
 
Sand can drain GB's dollar store wood style. :kayneshrug:
Lol. GB is literally earth. He can suck water from the ground as we've seen

Besides, Croco hasn't shown any good haki. GB on the otherhand sucked king dry. And tanked an acoc attack. Has regen.

And to be admiral level, you have to have fucking great haki lol. Probably acoa minimum.


Croco is fucked if he goes up against any admirals.

He's gonna be a sanjino victim lmao.
 

Lee Ba Shou

Conqueror of the Stars
What are you talking about? Dropping his eyeballs out at every occasion is literally part of Luffy's form.
When he’s afraid, not when he gets WiFi diffed by a mere CoC flex lmfao. Nika needed to be protected just from Warcury’s CoC lmfao

Yeah, Dorry and Broggy outright slapping the Gorosei (admirals superiors) back.
Case in point as to why a Gorosei could never beat an Admiral lmfao. Any Admiral would easily solo all 5 of the guys who neg Yonko’s individually

Mathematically it’s impossible for one Admiral to lose to 4 Yonko if Gorosei can WiFi diff the strongest one lmfao
 
Warcury’s warcry literally shredded Nika’s body into a thousand different pieces lmfao

Dorry and Broggy outright had to protect Nika from Topman.

It’s over bro, just accept it. Admirals > Gorosei > Yonko is obvious, only retards deny it lol.

You would literally need to have a brain injury to believe Saturn would need a weaker bodyguard than himself lol:
Saturn needing a bodyguard is like Mike Tyson or Jon Jones needing a bodyguard.:kayneshrug:
 
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