General & Others What would happen without Jinbe?

Crying “plot” isn’t an actual excuse or reason
Bellamy stalled luffy and Black Maria sanji saying it doesn’t count or mean anything because “plot” is dumb because there’s actual in story and character reasons regardless.

Kiku’s arm and sanji’s insult is what pushed zoro to pushed zoro to fully lock in and where necessary in both scenarios. So I’m a way yes they did push zoro to be stronger than he previously was
TF? Of course it matters.
Luffy is capable of stomping Bellamy within a min, didn't do so because plot demanded Luffy be stalled for the Doffy/Law plotline to happen.

No, Zoro wasn't "pushed to be stronger".
He was always that strong. He was pushed to become more serious.
 
"Quick work" is the part that you added. Zoro defeating Mars is less asinine than Mars killing Zoro. They are both baseless which is kinda the point. Keep up
Yeah quick work may be an overstatement for someone who fought Lucci for 20 chapters. Bur you said he'd send Mars to his domain, whatever that means (the enviroment?)
How in hell is Zoro more likely to win if no-one, not even an emperor, was able to put a scratch on them so far? That's quite silly.
 
Yeah quick work may be an overstatement for someone who fought Lucci for 20 chapters.
You said it not me, you are literally arguing against your own imagination.

How in hell is Zoro more likely to win if no-one, not even an emperor, was able to put a scratch on them so far? That's quite silly.
How is Mars more likely to kill Zoro, when no one, not even two emperors combined could kill him?

Bur you said he'd send Mars to his domain, whatever that means (the enviroment?)
  • Domain - an area of territory owned or controlled by a particular ruler.
  • King of Hell
In other words send Mars to hell.











You are still missing the point. Go reply to the other guy
 
You said it not me, you are literally arguing against your own imagination.


How is Mars more likely to kill Zoro, when no one, not even two emperors combined could kill him?


  • Domain - an area of territory owned or controlled by a particular ruler.
  • King of Hell
In other words send Mars to hell.











You are still missing the point. Go reply to the other guy
Oh yeah! Two emperor couldn't kill Zoro! It's not like they did one attack and he was sent to 1 HP by barely deflecting it a little. Anyone arguing that Kaido+BM=Zoro should be banned on sight.
LoLo cannot even damage Mars as for now.
 
Oh yeah! Two emperor couldn't kill Zoro! It's not like they did one attack and he was sent to 1 HP by barely deflecting it a little. Anyone arguing that Kaido+BM=Zoro should be banned on sight.
LoLo cannot even damage Mars as for now.
1 HP is still alive.
Mars wouldn't have killed Zoro, anyone claiming otherwise needs to start again at chapter 1
 
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The debate is over, zoro himself admitted lucci wasn't finished.
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1 HP is still alive.
Mars wouldn't have killed Zoro, anyone claiming otherwise needs to start again at chapter 1
It has already been portrayed, several times, that zoro can't tango with top tiers.

Gorosei are awakened mythical zoans haki monster conqueror users beasts, he has absolute ZERO chance against them.

Keep in mind that zoro needed ACoC to extreme diff non conqueror non advanced haki non awakened ancient gimmick reliant one trick pony
 
It has already been portrayed, several times, that zoro can't tango with top tiers.

Gorosei are awakened mythical zoans haki monster conqueror users beasts, he has absolute ZERO chance against them.

Keep in mind that zoro needed ACoC to extreme diff non conqueror non advanced haki non awakened ancient gimmick reliant one trick pony
Luffy needed Nika to do significantly less damage to that one trick pony with 3 times as many attacks.

When was it portrayed? List 2 examples
 
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Crying “plot” isn’t an actual excuse or reason
Bellamy stalled luffy and Black Maria sanji saying it doesn’t count or mean anything because “plot” is dumb because there’s actual in story and character reasons regardless.

Kiku’s arm and sanji’s insult is what pushed zoro to pushed zoro to fully lock in and where necessary in both scenarios. So I’m a way yes they did push zoro to be stronger than he previously was
He was pushed to become more serious
Not stronger
 
So you say.
Less than 5 characters attacked the gorosei on panel anyway and none of them used anything close to Zoro's max ap nor as strange as Asura.
Besides:

Why do they have scars?
It is not "so I say", many characters could kill Zoro. Kuma, Aokiji, Kizaru, Smoker etc.

Luffy clearly says that no matter what you do, they will recover. That's the man who defeated Kaido. AP is pointless.
We don't know when or how they were scarred, perhaps even before getting their powers.
 
Luffy clearly says that no matter what you do, they will recover. That's the man who defeated Kaido. AP is pointless.
It's based on what he tried. He isn't all knowing

We don't know when or how they were scarred, perhaps even before getting their powers.
But it's a possibility none the less. We just know what doesn't work on them which is a bunch of fodder attacks from Bonney and Kuma, rubble, laser system and some ok attacks from Nika. King was also undamagable until he wasn't.

It is not "so I say", many characters could kill Zoro. Kuma, Aokiji, Kizaru, Smoker etc.
Yet they didn't
 
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