[FNZ] Role Madness One Piece: Water 7/Enies Lobby

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MangoSenpai

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She claimed to hold her shot after @MangoSenpai claimed his results (can someone check that)
That is true, I asked her what she did and she said she abstained.
This made me think LM was scum, based on the information I was privy to - under the assumption that Kiku was telling the truth - which as I said was WIFOM at best.
Also would town have a jail, a roleblock within Naomi joat, and a rolecrush....and someone who can refill those?
Yeah, this is the part I'm also confused about, but now there seems to be a possibility that scum has a commuter, which makes this even worse lmao.
Also if the vig and sk has strongman hits, what's the point of the rolecrush?
I assume the strong arm is 1x or otherwise very limited
 

MangoSenpai

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I did i fired a regular shot at LM
I think I solved the mystery here, at least the "why" but not so much as to "who";

Polar claimed defensive last day, and since scum knows that both the tracker and watcher is town they are in a predicament.
I have been calling out for defense last phase, so what happened was, scum got rid of the tracker as they gambled on Watson being unprotected.
They would also assume I was going to watch you since you're the vig, the only reasonable thing to do then would be to commute you because then you can't shoot, and I can't see who visited you.
If scum chose to redirect you I would know who it was, as even if they redirected you to me, I would be protected so it's a no-go.


Now with this in mind, LM claiming to jail me seems less likely to come from scum PoV as it would've been redundant.
 

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I think I solved the mystery here, at least the "why" but not so much as to "who";

Polar claimed defensive last day, and since scum knows that both the tracker and watcher is town they are in a predicament.
I have been calling out for defense last phase, so what happened was, scum got rid of the tracker as they gambled on Watson being unprotected.
They would also assume I was going to watch you since you're the vig, the only reasonable thing to do then would be to commute you because then you can't shoot, and I can't see who visited you.
If scum chose to redirect you I would know who it was, as even if they redirected you to me, I would be protected so it's a no-go.


Now with this in mind, LM claiming to jail me seems less likely to come from scum PoV as it would've been redundant.



I have no idea what any of this means
 

MangoSenpai

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I think I solved the mystery here, at least the "why" but not so much as to "who";

Polar claimed defensive last day, and since scum knows that both the tracker and watcher is town they are in a predicament.
I have been calling out for defense last phase, so what happened was, scum got rid of the tracker as they gambled on Watson being unprotected.
They would also assume I was going to watch you since you're the vig, the only reasonable thing to do then would be to commute you because then you can't shoot, and I can't see who visited you.
If scum chose to redirect you I would know who it was, as even if they redirected you to me, I would be protected so it's a no-go.


Now with this in mind, LM claiming to jail me seems less likely to come from scum PoV as it would've been redundant.
But again, what would've been the point to commute you if they didn't want to save LM?

If I'm to give LM the benefit of doubt, it would have to set him up, and he did claim to have jailed me before I claimed anything. But scum could've just let you do your thing then and not visit at all.
I don't think there's any reasonable way I could deduce based on the information I have available if LM is town or not.

Maybe they thought you wouldn't be shooting at LM again as he had a strong jailor claim.. I don't know..
 

MangoSenpai

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I have no idea what any of this means
To dumb it down;
Tracker sees where his target went, while watcher sees who visited his target.
Since scum knows that both of these roles are town, they will have a hard time navigating around without being noticed.

I called out to be protected, Polar had claimed protective last phase.
So they killed Watson who they knew was tracker first, because they gambled they were not protected.

Then scum made the assumption that I was most likely going to watch you, so they couldn't do anything to you.
But in order to stop your shot, and prevent me from finding out who did it; they had to commute you

commuting means to remove from the game temporarily. So you can't make any actions and no actions would find you
 
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