Controversial The True Strongest Warrior In All of China

Strongest in China?


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Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#1
Hello all,

Continuing our Kingdom break week, today we’re going to look at who I believe could legitimately prove to be the single strongest warrior in China. And it may not be who you’re thinking it is:


And that character is of course the former Lord of Juukou, Chu General Man’U.

Ohhhhh baby, this character knocked a lot of Moubu fans on their asses when he was introduced lol. People thought Moubu was about to mid diff this guy, and yeah I’ll toot my own horn and remind everyone that I knew this guy wasn’t about to go down easily. As soon as I saw “he’s even larger than Moubu” followed by this:


I knew we weren’t going to be seeing some ordinary brute in action. And indeed, although Juukou as a battle only lasted about 8 chapters, Hara went extremely hard on the Man’U hype.

Not only did Man’U not go down easily, but he of course gave us one of the most infamous moments in modern Kingdom:



As he throttled Moubu off of his horse with only one arm. Instead of killing Moubu, he chose to antagonize him and allowed him to get back on his horse:


The Qin soldiers even reacted with confusion as to why Man’U was provoking Moubu instead of just killing him. I mean can you just imagine the state of the Kingdom fandom if Man’U throttled Moubu off his horse with one arm and killed him immediately lmfao. And the scariest part?


Okay so let’s pause for a second. At this point, you may be asking yourself “what the fuck is happening?” This guy throttled Moubu with one arm, completely stopping the advance of the man who killed Kanmei, the self proclaimed “strongest in all of China”, and Man’U isn’t even doing half of what you expected him to do?

Let’s remind ourselves of the hype placed upon Man’U.


Man’U is the former Supreme Commander and Great General of the now destroyed state of Beki.

Beki could only survive for as long as it did because of Man’U himself, who repelled Chu time and time again:


Even after Beki was absorbed by Chu, Man’U wandered around aimlessly pulverizing Chu army after Chu army:


He was said to have defeated all of the Chu Generals of the Beki-Koku era. (?)


This is perhaps a good time to remind you all that the strength of the average Chu General is far, far beyond the strength of your average General of any other state. And Man’U was said to be rolling over Chu generals left and right.

And while Man’U never personally fought with Kanmei himself:


Man’U leads the legendary Juukou army, which produced victories against the likes of “Kanmei’s ilk”. And not only did Juukou defeat “Kanmei’s ilk”, but according to Juukou’Ou, “chased them down and slaughtered them.”

Now I’m going to use the Google Definition of the word “Ilk” here:

ILK:
A type of people or things similar to those already referred to.


Now I don’t know why this particular word was used by the translators who translated Juukou, but if we were to assume this is an accurate translation, (I don’t see why not), then this literally means the Juukou gang was chasing down and slaughtering Kanmei’s peers. Which if nothing else, means the Juukou army under Man’U was defeating some incredibly strong opponents.

The other states even stopped attacking Juukou altogether because:


Mouki was shitting himself at the prospect of Qin6 GG Moubu facing these guys:


And I would like to remind you all that we received all of these enormous pieces of hype over the course of like, 10 chapters. Lol

Hara really went out of his fucking mind to hype Man’U’s strength. Sure he also hyped Sento’Un, GenU, and Juukou Ou as well, but I think we all knew who was the big recipient of the hype at Juukou.

Speaking of, let’s now dig in to Man’U vs Moubu since this is when we can actually see Man’U fight an opponent with quantifiable strength. First, two things:
1. Reminder that Man’U throttled Moubu with one arm and basically spared his life already
2. Reminder that Man’U is not fighting at the level he was expected to fight at.

Alright let’s do this.



Moubu is immediately overwhelmed by Man’U even after Moubu starts fighting seriously. Moubu gets his fair share of big blows in:


But Man’U has the immediate advantage. He is overwhelming Moubu more frequently and more severely than Moubu is overwhelming him. This continues:


With Moubu still holding his own:


But ultimately Man’U still has the upper hand.



Where again we continue to see that Man’U just has the advantage against Moubu outright.

Now ultimately Moubu does get his “revenge” on Man’U:


But this is how their fight ends:



And again, this is with Man’U not performing as is expected of him:


Which was reiterated again at the end of the battle:


This is why I say, anyone who is definitively convinced that Moubu is the strongest in China really needs to go reread Juukou because that arc was pure unadulterated Man’U and Sento Un hype.

“But Lee Ba Shou”, you are saying, “don’t you believe Shibashou > Man’U?” And while yes I am currently balls deep into Lord Sheeb’s hype:


It is seriously hard for me to picture him getting the same level of hype as Man’U. Unless Hara reveals that Shibashou was bodying Xiongnu Warlords in the past, I’m not sure if Shibashou can match Man’U’s insane hype.


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Pot Goblin

Conejo Blanco
#2
Hello all,

Continuing our Kingdom break week, today we’re going to look at who I believe could legitimately prove to be the single strongest warrior in China. And it may not be who you’re thinking it is:


And that character is of course the former Lord of Juukou, Chu General Man’U.

Ohhhhh baby, this character knocked a lot of Moubu fans on their asses when he was introduced lol. People thought Moubu was about to mid diff this guy, and yeah I’ll toot my own horn and remind everyone that I knew this guy wasn’t about to go down easily. As soon as I saw “he’s even larger than Moubu” followed by this:


I knew we weren’t going to be seeing some ordinary brute in action. And indeed, although Juukou as a battle only lasted about 8 chapters, Hara went extremely hard on the Man’U hype.

Not only did Man’U not go down easily, but he of course gave us one of the most infamous moments in modern Kingdom:



As he throttled Moubu off of his horse with only one arm. Instead of killing Moubu, he chose to antagonize him and allowed him to get back on his horse:


The Qin soldiers even reacted with confusion as to why Man’U was provoking Moubu instead of just killing him. I mean can you just imagine the state of the Kingdom fandom if Man’U throttled Moubu off his horse with one arm and killed him immediately lmfao. And the scariest part?


Okay so let’s pause for a second. At this point, you may be asking yourself “what the fuck is happening?” This guy throttled Moubu with one arm, completely stopping the advance of the man who killed Kanmei, the self proclaimed “strongest in all of China”, and Man’U isn’t even doing half of what you expected him to do?

Let’s remind ourselves of the hype placed upon Man’U.


Man’U is the former Supreme Commander and Great General of the now destroyed state of Beki.

Beki could only survive for as long as it did because of Man’U himself, who repelled Chu time and time again:


Even after Beki was absorbed by Chu, Man’U wandered around aimlessly pulverizing Chu army after Chu army:


He was said to have defeated all of the Chu Generals of the Beki-Koku era. (?)


This is perhaps a good time to remind you all that the strength of the average Chu General is far, far beyond the strength of your average General of any other state. And Man’U was said to be rolling over Chu generals left and right.

And while Man’U never personally fought with Kanmei himself:


Man’U leads the legendary Juukou army, which produced victories against the likes of “Kanmei’s ilk”. And not only did Juukou defeat “Kanmei’s ilk”, but according to Juukou’Ou, “chased them down and slaughtered them.”

Now I’m going to use the Google Definition of the word “Ilk” here:

ILK:
A type of people or things similar to those already referred to.


Now I don’t know why this particular word was used by the translators who translated Juukou, but if we were to assume this is an accurate translation, (I don’t see why not), then this literally means the Juukou gang was chasing down and slaughtering Kanmei’s peers. Which if nothing else, means the Juukou army under Man’U was defeating some incredibly strong opponents.

The other states even stopped attacking Juukou altogether because:


Mouki was shitting himself at the prospect of Qin6 GG Moubu facing these guys:


And I would like to remind you all that we received all of these enormous pieces of hype over the course of like, 10 chapters. Lol

Hara really went out of his fucking mind to hype Man’U’s strength. Sure he also hyped Sento’Un, GenU, and Juukou Ou as well, but I think we all knew who was the big recipient of the hype at Juukou.

Speaking of, let’s now dig in to Man’U vs Moubu since this is when we can actually see Man’U fight an opponent with quantifiable strength. First, two things:
1. Reminder that Man’U throttled Moubu with one arm and basically spared his life already
2. Reminder that Man’U is not fighting at the level he was expected to fight at.

Alright let’s do this.



Moubu is immediately overwhelmed by Man’U even after Moubu starts fighting seriously. Moubu gets his fair share of big blows in:


But Man’U has the immediate advantage. He is overwhelming Moubu more frequently and more severely than Moubu is overwhelming him. This continues:


With Moubu still holding his own:


But ultimately Man’U still has the upper hand.



Where again we continue to see that Man’U just has the advantage against Moubu outright.

Now ultimately Moubu does get his “revenge” on Man’U:


But this is how their fight ends:



And again, this is with Man’U not performing as is expected of him:


Which was reiterated again at the end of the battle:


This is why I say, anyone who is definitively convinced that Moubu is the strongest in China really needs to go reread Juukou because that arc was pure unadulterated Man’U and Sento Un hype.

“But Lee Ba Shou”, you are saying, “don’t you believe Shibashou > Man’U?” And while yes I am currently balls deep into Lord Sheeb’s hype:


It is seriously hard for me to picture him getting the same level of hype as Man’U. Unless Hara reveals that Shibashou was bodying Xiongnu Warlords in the past, I’m not sure if Shibashou can match Man’U’s insane hype.


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I dig it, hopefully he and Moubou get that rematch
Seein them both at their limits and layin it all out would be very interesting indeed

I can see bigger things for him down the line as we've seen the talk on fellas like him before and he was able to walk the walk through his performance against Moubou

Being apart of Chu also helps as I currently see then as the final boss of the series following Wei and Zhao respectivley. With Yan and Qi ultimately joining Qins side
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#7
moubu isnt a tactician either and yet he used tactics against chu cause shk told him to same way the old man clearly expected man'us army to move a certain way
He used tactics because he was told he would need tactics in that scenario. This doesn’t apply to Man’U. Lol

For the record, ManU not even doing half what is expected of him doesn’t mean he’s fighting at 50% power lol. It just means Man’U was objectively holding back as he was beating Moubu.
 

Peroroncino

🅷🅰🅻🅰 🅼🅰🅳🆁🅸🅳
#9
He used tactics because he was told he would need tactics in that scenario. This doesn’t apply to Man’U. Lol

For the record, ManU not even doing half what is expected of him doesn’t mean he’s fighting at 50% power lol. It just means Man’U was objectively holding back as he was beating Moubu.
same way the old man told man'u to use tactics hence his complaining abut the man'u army not moving
 

Apollo

The Sol King
#18
He only tire his sleeves against Kanmei because they were already ripped. Lol

And Man’U wasn’t giving it his all either.
He tore it by flexing his muscles.

On a more serious note, Oukotsu was the highest of the former Qin 6 in terms of pure strength yet we saw Ouki destroy someone stronger than him in Houken.

Moubu might be physically stronger than Man'U but still looked inferior due to how "weight" and experience factor into fights in Kingdom.
 
#19
I still have Kyoukai Moubu as the strongest warrior right now. Man'U is definitely up there though.

Although I have two questions:

- Does Man'U have "Weight" against Moubu? I assumed that he doesn't anymore because he lost the fire in him the moment his home state got destroyed by Chu. If this Man'U was doing THIS much against Moubu (Moubu wasn't at 100% like he did against Kanmei but still) then imagine how op Man'U with "Weight" would be lol.

- Why did Kanmei not fight Man'U? I always thought these two are bounds to be rivals fighting to the death. And the comment of Kanmei during Coalition War, "It's been a while that I uses my mace against someone." I was sure that Man'U was the one fighting Kanmei in the past just for the revelation that Man'U didn't even fight Kanmei directly lol. Not sure why Hara does this. I'm guessing that Hara wants to reserve Man'U for future purposes.
 
#20
Mou Bu never got into the fight properly.

He's known to be a slow starter and mentally susceptible, and he very much was rattled by Man'U.

He was not fighting with clarity and composure, he was fighting to prove Man'U wrong.

It was clearly a set up fight.
 
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