Shoumou vs Chou Ga Ryu

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#23
Gyou'Un doesn't get low diffed by Ouki. Mid diff at least, even high diff isn't that unreasonable. Still doesn't discredit my point.

Rinbukun can be given a good fight by Rokuomi (who is below Shoumou, don't even argue against it), and yet even Tou needed to take some time to slay the former.

This series doesn't suffer from typical shonen power creep syndrome. You are highly overestimating the differences in strength between these characters.
Shoumou is not close to Rinbukun in strength, from where does this Shoumou overestimation come from? He was just a strong warrior general, nothing more, all these other guys were talking about have GG adjacent hype, including Rinbukun.

Rinbukun is a Chu general, making him relative to guys like Sento Un and GenU.

Gyou’Un fought the Qin 6 in the past and was adjacent to the Heavenly Kings who themselves are GG tier.

Shoumou is just a warrior general with no hype exceeding that level, why on earth are you hyping him up to the level of these other guys?
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#27
I thought I've seen it all with the whole Fire Dragon/Earl Shi fiasco. I was wrong.
Y’all are trolling and don’t have any arguments lol. Rinbukun killed “well over” a hundred Baiyue commanders. Dude wasn’t weak at all. Actually by stats he was equal to Rinko and Zenou, as ludicrous as everything about that statement is lol.

Rinbukun pushed Tou harder than Rinko could push Rinbukun, I’ll tell you that much lol. Rinbukun might just legit one shot Rinko.
 
#29
Y’all are trolling and don’t have any arguments lol. Rinbukun killed “well over” a hundred Baiyue commanders. Dude wasn’t weak at all. Actually by stats he was equal to Rinko and Zenou, as ludicrous as everything about that statement is
What is even the problem with Rinko at 93? What is the issue you have?

Shin regularly fights opponents he has no business going up against. Shin fought Gaimou half a decade ago. Do you think he can now low diff Renpa then by your logic?

Shin is only a year after his Rinko feat and he is clashing blows with Houken. His rival was fighting Tou to a standstill.

Rinbukun “1-shots” Rinko, even though the former would get his ass slayed by a post-Rinko Shin? lol.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#31
What is even the problem with Rinko at 93? What is the issue you have?
By stats he is equal to or above a bunch of characters who stomp him.

By stats, he is stronger than Shouheikun and Akou and equal to Zenou. Not in a million years does Rinko push these guys to high diff.

Do you think he can now low diff Renpa then by your logic?
Nah but he can definitely go either way with Renpa now. With Rinko, Shin would mid diff him at worst.

Shin is only a year after his Rinko feat and he is clashing blows with Houken.
Lol, no.

Shin repelled a single blow from one armed Houken. Not a huge deal, because Houken has real feats IE slaying Duke Hyou and Gekishin and pushing Ouki to extreme diff, plus Houken ragdolled and “killed” a much stronger Shin later on.

Rinbukun “1-shots” Rinko, even though the former would get his ass slayed by a post-Rinko Shin? lol.
Yeah there’s no way in hell post Rinko Shin beats Rinbukun lol. Rinbukun is about relative to Batei who easily scrubified a much, much stronger Shin.

Sentou'un and the other Juuko guys literally killed Rinbukun tier dudes frequently
Alright that’s fair. Lol
 
#32
By stats he is equal to or above a bunch of characters who stomp him.

By stats, he is stronger than Shouheikun and Akou and equal to Zenou. Not in a million years does Rinko push these guys to high diff.
Ah, so you're completely fine with Akou and SHK at 91 then? Good to know.

Nah but he can definitely go either way with Renpa now. With Rinko, Shin would mid diff him at worst.
You should be more consistent in your line of thinking then. Also lol at you moving the goalpost from 1-shot by Rinbukun to mid diffed by Shin.

Yeah there’s no way in hell post Rinko Shin beats Rinbukun lol. Rinbukun is about relative to Batei who easily scrubified a much, much stronger Shin.
You may as well say Keisha ~ Shin martially if you think the first few clashes of the fight tell the whole story.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#33
Ah, so you're completely fine with Akou and SHK at 91 then? Good to know.
? I never said that.

You should be more consistent in your line of thinking then.
What exactly is inconsistent about what I said?

You may as well say Keisha ~ Shin martially if you think the first few clashes of the fight tell the whole story.
Shin killed Keisha, that’s the difference. Shin not only didn’t kill Batei but it didn’t even look like Batei was taking him seriously.
 
#34
? I never said that.
You're literally making the argument that Rinko shouldn't be higher than the stat that was given by Akou and SHK. What else would you be implying?

Shin killed Keisha, that’s the difference. Shin not only didn’t kill Batei but it didn’t even look like Batei was taking him seriously.
Did he need to get killed within the first 30 seconds of the fight before it got interrupted, which you conveniently left out?

Shin would have needed high diff against Batei, yet still would have killed him even several years ago. That's just the nature of how Shin's power works.
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#35
You're literally making the argument that Rinko shouldn't be higher than the stat that was given by Akou and SHK. What else would you be implying?
Maybe I’m implying Akou or Shouheikun should be above 93? Maybe I’m implying Hara’s entire stat system is drugged and is entirely worthless? I never said I was okay with Shouheikun and Akou at 91.

Did he need to get killed within the first 30 seconds of the fight before it got interrupted, which you conveniently left out?
I’ve read this like 10 times and I don’t understand what you’re asking here.

Shin would have needed high diff against Batei, yet still would have killed him even several years ago. That's just the nature of how Shin's power works.
I mean, that’s some nice headcanon but there’s no reason to believe Shin would have beaten Batei.
 
#36
Maybe I’m implying Akou or Shouheikun should be above 93? Maybe I’m implying Hara’s entire stat system is drugged and is entirely worthless? I never said I was okay with Shouheikun and Akou at 91.
Why tf does it matter what Hara gave Akou and SHK? Why are they relevant?

93 is not incosistent whatsoever with his portrayel against Shin and Ouhon. That's the thing that matters.

I’ve read this like 10 times and I don’t understand what you’re asking here.
The fight was too short to make any sort of conclusion on the victor. All it proves was that Batei wasn't a joke.

But we do know that Shin has won against opponents stronger than himself, and fought Gaimou 1-2 years ago.

I mean, that’s some nice headcanon but there’s no reason to believe Shin would have beaten Batei.
Shin having a fluctuating level of power is headcanon?
 

Elder Lee Hung

Conqueror of the Stars
#37
Why tf does it matter what Hara gave Akou and SHK? Why are they relevant?
Both of these guys would destroy Rinko with ease, he belongs nowhere near them in terms of stats and especially not above them.

93 is not incosistent whatsoever with his portrayel against Shin and Ouhon. That's the thing that matters.
If Rinko is a 93 then Akou should be like a 98, and Shouheikun would be like, 120. This is why Hara’s whole stat system is fucked, Akou and Shouheikun are tiers superior to Rinko.

The fight was too short to make any sort of conclusion on the victor. All it proves was that Batei wasn't a joke.
Batei looked like he was treating Shin like a mosquito.

Shin having a fluctuating level of power is headcanon?
Fluctuating level of power =/= “could have killed Batei” lol
 
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