Versus Battle Maki vs Jogo
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I believe he's significantly weaker but I think it makes sense given everything we know
Kenjaku said that being generous Jogo's sitting at 8-9 fingers in strength
In reality he's probably closer to 4-5 and you can maybe give him 6 if you push it
This tracks if you look at how well 15F Sukuna is portrayed when Gojo appears
Gojo casually oneshot Uraume (who Hakari is currently having a tough fight with right now) while 15F Sukuna was able to clash with him while protecting Kenjaku
Kenjaku hiding behind 15F Sukuna really tells us everything we need to know
Mind you, this is the same Kenjaku that Maki said they can't beat through normal means because of how strong he is
Kenjaku said that being generous Jogo's sitting at 8-9 fingers in strength
In reality he's probably closer to 4-5 and you can maybe give him 6 if you push it
This tracks if you look at how well 15F Sukuna is portrayed when Gojo appears
Gojo casually oneshot Uraume (who Hakari is currently having a tough fight with right now) while 15F Sukuna was able to clash with him while protecting Kenjaku
Kenjaku hiding behind 15F Sukuna really tells us everything we need to know
Mind you, this is the same Kenjaku that Maki said they can't beat through normal means because of how strong he is
I am seeing 0 arguments in Maki's favor that work. You guys are letting your love for Toji do the work lmao. That's not gonna fetch you good results.
Bro's doing everything but to post an argument lmao
Yuji fought Sukuna before Maki even entered the picture, and in the second round, she came back only after Yuji brought Sukuna to his knees after the first Blackflash. Then he used the second Blackflash, where it's speculated that his RCT might be restored, which it didn't, but Sukuna started handling Maki, Yuji, and Choso and ended up landing the third BF on Maki after which his output started elevating.
Bro's doing everything but to post an argument lmao
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Yuji fought Sukuna before Maki even entered the picture, and in the second round, she came back only after Yuji brought Sukuna to his knees after the first Blackflash. Then he used the second Blackflash, where it's speculated that his RCT might be restored, which it didn't, but Sukuna started handling Maki, Yuji, and Choso and ended up landing the third BF on Maki after which his output started elevating.
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@Welkin , the manga stated that Jogo was above Dagon, not that there's an overwhelming difference between them.
Because Toji defeated Dagon one-sidedly that gives us plenty of wiggle room to confidently say he could also defeat Jogo, how strong would Jogo then be compared to Dagon? 5 times as strong? 10 times? The manga never stated this directly and leaves it to us to speculate.
At this point we're just going in circles over and over.
Because Toji defeated Dagon one-sidedly that gives us plenty of wiggle room to confidently say he could also defeat Jogo, how strong would Jogo then be compared to Dagon? 5 times as strong? 10 times? The manga never stated this directly and leaves it to us to speculate.
At this point we're just going in circles over and over.
On another level implies that the gap between them is fairly large
Gege made that pretty clear with this statement
It doesn't because 2 sorcerers that fought Dagon confirmed that Jogo is far stronger than him
The manga doesn't give us exact calculations very often though
At the end of the day it's a battle manga that's still trying to tell a story
Gege isn't going to have a character say "Jogo is 4.5x stronger than Dagon" instead of making a general statement
This same logic could be applied to Toji anyway
He beat Dagon with help from Naobito
Do we have an exact number on the gap between them?
We're going in circles because you insist on using Toji vs Dagon to prove Jogo is weaker than Toji
Jogo is >> Dagon according to statements
Toji is >> Dagon based on feats
But according to you Toji is stronger than Jogo because he beat someone that's... far weaker than Jogo is?
It just doesn't add up
You don’t get it.
Even if we’re conservative and say that a Grade 4 sorcerer only has a CE output of 2, than 1F Sukuna should have a CE of 100 at the very least. So even if we’re conservative and say current Sukuna is at 3F levels of output, than his output would be 300. 300^2.5 is 1,558,846. Which would be the equivalent of a CE reinforced punch from ~15,588 finger Sukuna.
Just take your L and accept that BF raising output to the power of 2.5 is total nonsense which Gege didn’t think through and only said because he wanted to sound smart
Even if we’re conservative and say that a Grade 4 sorcerer only has a CE output of 2, than 1F Sukuna should have a CE of 100 at the very least. So even if we’re conservative and say current Sukuna is at 3F levels of output, than his output would be 300. 300^2.5 is 1,558,846. Which would be the equivalent of a CE reinforced punch from ~15,588 finger Sukuna.
Just take your L and accept that BF raising output to the power of 2.5 is total nonsense which Gege didn’t think through and only said because he wanted to sound smart