Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1112 Spoilers Discussion

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Peroroncino

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which is why it doesn’t make sense for Oda to kill him off without actually using him

It would be one thing if he died in wano, because that actually raises the stakes. But him dying against Shanks has zero weight. Especially since Oda didn’t even draw Kid dying.
actually is why it makes perfect sense, oda already said the supernovas are characters he created on a whim which makes it so their role in the story was always meant to be small.
You're the one assuming oda will take time off from the last saga to just start giving kid of all people characterization
 
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which is why it doesn’t make sense for Oda to kill him off without actually using him

It would be one thing if he died in wano, because that actually raises the stakes. But him dying against Shanks has zero weight. Especially since Oda didn’t even draw Kid dying.
Kid has been used as much as his character physically can. Kid obviously can’t be used to defeat any significant character since all remaining pirate captains are way more important to Luffys journey than Kid is.

So using him to help take out an unimportant character like Big Mom then deliver ponglyphs to an actual important character to Luffys journey and show that kids brand of merciless and villainy can only get him so far
 
I don’t get why people are so invested in this idea of Oda throwing away a character that he’s been building for the past 500 chapters, as opposed to actually doing something with him that makes him interesting or likeable.

Kid dying in 1079 or being written out of the story would be bad writing.

If there was no point in Kid’s character then he shouldn’t have been created to begin with.

But all evidence tbh shows that he still has a role. Because Kid was never treated as Luffy’s serious rival, he was always treated as an ally. One of his greatest allies in fact.

1) they allied in sabaody
2) they allied in wano

They’re probably going to ally in elbaf and the final war. Kid’s character arc is about him learning to accept his weaknesses and make allies. In wano he wanted to kill Kaido and take all the credit, only for him to leave Kaido to Luffy and go after BM, which he begrudgingly used teamwork with law to beat.

The completion of this character arc is Kid accepting Luffy as pirate king and offering to help him destroy the WG.

And you can say that “destroys his character”, but it really doesn’t because that’s literally what his entire arc was building up to ever since he allied with Luffy in sabaody.

It’s literally just like how Shiki acknowledged Roger as PK and attacked marineford when he learned Roger got “captured”.
 
I don’t get why people are so invested in this idea of Oda throwing away a character that he’s been building for the past 500 chapters, as opposed to actually doing something with him that makes him interesting or likeable.

Kid dying in 1079 or being written out of the story would be bad writing.

If there was no point in Kid’s character then he shouldn’t have been created to begin with.

But all evidence tbh shows that he still has a role. Because Kid was never treated as Luffy’s serious rival, he was always treated as an ally. One of his greatest allies in fact.

1) they allied in sabaody
2) they allied in wano

They’re probably going to ally in elbaf and the final war. Kid’s character arc is about him learning to accept his weaknesses and make allies. In wano he wanted to kill Kaido and take all the credit, only for him to leave Kaido to Luffy and go after BM, which he begrudgingly used teamwork with law to beat.

The completion of this character arc is Kid accepting Luffy as pirate king and offering to help him destroy the WG.

And you can say that “destroys his character”, but it really doesn’t because that’s literally what his entire arc was building up to ever since he allied with Luffy in sabaody.

It’s literally just like how Shiki acknowledged Roger as PK and attacked marineford when he learned Roger got “captured”.
I don't think he's coming back dude.
 
I don’t get why people are so invested in this idea of Oda throwing away a character that he’s been building for the past 500 chapters, as opposed to actually doing something with him that makes him interesting or likeable.

Kid dying in 1079 or being written out of the story would be bad writing.

If there was no point in Kid’s character then he shouldn’t have been created to begin with.

But all evidence tbh shows that he still has a role. Because Kid was never treated as Luffy’s serious rival, he was always treated as an ally. One of his greatest allies in fact.

1) they allied in sabaody
2) they allied in wano

They’re probably going to ally in elbaf and the final war. Kid’s character arc is about him learning to accept his weaknesses and make allies. In wano he wanted to kill Kaido and take all the credit, only for him to leave Kaido to Luffy and go after BM, which he begrudgingly used teamwork with law to beat.

The completion of this character arc is Kid accepting Luffy as pirate king and offering to help him destroy the WG.

And you can say that “destroys his character”, but it really doesn’t because that’s literally what his entire arc was building up to ever since he allied with Luffy in sabaody.

It’s literally just like how Shiki acknowledged Roger as PK and attacked marineford when he learned Roger got “captured”.
It's mostly just that Kid sucks. Bro can just go paint pirate flags with Bellamy.

What you're suggesting is just for him to come back, be humbled again like Shiki, and finally pray to Nika. Waste of panel time.
 

Peroroncino

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I don’t get why people are so invested in this idea of Oda throwing away a character that he’s been building for the past 500 chapters, as opposed to actually doing something with him that makes him interesting or likeable.

Kid dying in 1079 or being written out of the story would be bad writing.

If there was no point in Kid’s character then he shouldn’t have been created to begin with.

But all evidence tbh shows that he still has a role. Because Kid was never treated as Luffy’s serious rival, he was always treated as an ally. One of his greatest allies in fact.

1) they allied in sabaody
2) they allied in wano

They’re probably going to ally in elbaf and the final war. Kid’s character arc is about him learning to accept his weaknesses and make allies. In wano he wanted to kill Kaido and take all the credit, only for him to leave Kaido to Luffy and go after BM, which he begrudgingly used teamwork with law to beat.

The completion of this character arc is Kid accepting Luffy as pirate king and offering to help him destroy the WG.

And you can say that “destroys his character”, but it really doesn’t because that’s literally what his entire arc was building up to ever since he allied with Luffy in sabaody.

It’s literally just like how Shiki acknowledged Roger as PK and attacked marineford when he learned Roger got “captured”.
he didn't build anything, that's like saying he has been building urouge even though we all know he'll be important in one arc and then be thrown away like capone
 

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I don’t get why people are so invested in this idea of Oda throwing away a character that he’s been building for the past 500 chapters, as opposed to actually doing something with him that makes him interesting or likeable.

Kid dying in 1079 or being written out of the story would be bad writing.

If there was no point in Kid’s character then he shouldn’t have been created to begin with.

But all evidence tbh shows that he still has a role. Because Kid was never treated as Luffy’s serious rival, he was always treated as an ally. One of his greatest allies in fact.

1) they allied in sabaody
2) they allied in wano

They’re probably going to ally in elbaf and the final war. Kid’s character arc is about him learning to accept his weaknesses and make allies. In wano he wanted to kill Kaido and take all the credit, only for him to leave Kaido to Luffy and go after BM, which he begrudgingly used teamwork with law to beat.

The completion of this character arc is Kid accepting Luffy as pirate king and offering to help him destroy the WG.

And you can say that “destroys his character”, but it really doesn’t because that’s literally what his entire arc was building up to ever since he allied with Luffy in sabaody.

It’s literally just like how Shiki acknowledged Roger as PK and attacked marineford when he learned Roger got “captured”.
Fellas ain't ready for the Elbaf tournament
The Land of Giants will be rich in redemption for many
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I don’t get why people are so invested in this idea of Oda throwing away a character that he’s been building for the past 500 chapters, as opposed to actually doing something with him that makes him interesting or likeable.

Kid dying in 1079 or being written out of the story would be bad writing.

If there was no point in Kid’s character then he shouldn’t have been created to begin with.

But all evidence tbh shows that he still has a role. Because Kid was never treated as Luffy’s serious rival, he was always treated as an ally. One of his greatest allies in fact.

1) they allied in sabaody
2) they allied in wano

They’re probably going to ally in elbaf and the final war. Kid’s character arc is about him learning to accept his weaknesses and make allies. In wano he wanted to kill Kaido and take all the credit, only for him to leave Kaido to Luffy and go after BM, which he begrudgingly used teamwork with law to beat.

The completion of this character arc is Kid accepting Luffy as pirate king and offering to help him destroy the WG.

And you can say that “destroys his character”, but it really doesn’t because that’s literally what his entire arc was building up to ever since he allied with Luffy in sabaody.

It’s literally just like how Shiki acknowledged Roger as PK and attacked marineford when he learned Roger got “captured”.
You seem to think Kid needs a resolution; but that’s not what his character is for. Kid is a foil of Luffy. Kids existence is set up to prove that Luffys will alone would not have gotten him to his level.

Kid is an example of failure Luffy would’ve had if Luffy wasnt destined for greatness. Kids whole reasoning of existing is to let Oda jerk off Luffy more.
 
You seem to think Kid needs a resolution; but that’s not what his character is for. Kid is a foil of Luffy. Kids existence is set up to prove that Luffys will alone would not have gotten him to his level.

Kid is an example of failure Luffy would’ve had if Luffy wasnt destined for greatness. Kids whole reasoning of existing is to let Oda jerk off Luffy more.
Sure, that’s fine

That doesn’t mean Oda needs to trashbag a character after building him up literally one arc ago.
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and here she is getting her time to shine then fuck off
Nope

She’s going to be a major character to the end. She can become Nika, has an unknown CD father, and controls a pacifista army.
 
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