JJK 257 Spoilers

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
He's literally without hands right now and super weakened, are you an idiot?


Did he not just beat and blitz Makis ass twice in H2H when he was just a little bit better and I'm sure no idiot in this fandom exists that would say Maki isn't one of the goats in pure hands like Toji was.
Maki isn’t one of the goats in pure hands, she was/is a weapons specialist cause she can’t exorcise curses without them, she is physically gifted and is a solid H2H fighters.

only after her first awakening was she able to compete with grade 1s in H2H when she annihilated the zen’in clan the. after being fully awakened to be the new “Toji” was she able to compete with Sukuna in speed only, she was never able to even tag Sukuna in the 2on1.

todo still outclasses her in pure hands.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
lol the fact that you sukuna fans bring this up after the dude was and is still feeling the after effects from fighting Gojo… if Sukuna is depleted rn from fighting Gojo then he was even more depleted before he reverted to his old body, the guy had no CT in play nor RCT when he started fighting Trashimo…

try again.
If you want to try wanking Gojo at least be consistent, Miguel strikes harder than Gojo as per canon and guess what he did to Sukunas real body.


By the way, if you deny that Miguel punches harder than Gojo then don't bother replying
yawn.

read the actual manga, Miguel would only out power Gojo if they used pure hands with only CE reinforcement and not using their CT.

Gojos punches are embedded with Blue & CE reinforced…


if I’m wrong show me any instance where Miguel was shown to throw a punch that bodies special grades like they’re nothing:


 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
the sukuna fans really are living rent free in yo head aren't we? :suresure:
you guys always seem to run away when logic comes into play and we stop going based off of your headcannon Yoru..

Sukuna has not been at full power this whole damn time lol.

He literally compared his ce to Yuta's. That was like half of his ce. And he has taken multiple hits from Yuji's soul stifling punches, further decreasing his ce and ct effectiveness.

He only hit his first black flash AFTER all that happened.

So comparing that to a pretty fresh Gojo is pretty retarded.

But you do you :kayneshrug:
so he was compared to Yuta who’s CE is double that of Gojos to begin with… the only difference is Gojo was able to repair his CE so it seemed boundless which we saw wasn’t the case he was depleted the same way Sukuna is now and his blackflash made Sukuna go lights out while having only one arm..

Yujis punches out don’t disrupt his CT effectiveness just his CE output outside of his control over Megumis body, while simultaneously when he hit maki with the second black flash his CE output was already increasing….

pretty fresh Gojo when and where was he fresh when he was having to face Sukuna with no CE and still bodied him while being hit with Shrine, or how fresh was he when he had to face Mahoraga who was already spared and immune to purple, while also having to worry about Sukuna himself and Agito a fusion of 4 Shikigami realistically it was a fusion of about 7-8 shikigami while he had only one arm and still outclassed Sukuna in CQC….

so let me know how or when Gojo was fresh in the instances we are discussing and if you truly believe Sukuna>>>>>Gojo then for Gojo to be so weak and hit the strongest with such a debating blow is just looking bad on your part..

but you can try again if you want you already bowed out of our last discussion I won’t be surprised to see you run away again.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Feel free to respond when you think of something Yoru..
so what does that have to do with wanking Sukuna again?

it’s Yujis own potential that has nothing to do with Sukuna..

Yuta/Hakari have the same potential as Gojo I’m I wanking either/or if I like one over the other?

in which way was he better?

both fought special grades, Naobito fought a barely awakened immature curse, Naoyo fought a grown curse. both speeds are the same tbh and Naoyo was a genius/prodigy for even the Zen’in standards…

you do realize they’re two separate people with two separate attitudes and characteristics…

just cause one has the same CT doesn’t mean you wank one and not the other, even though you both don’t even understand the context or meaning of wanking..

I like itachi but I don’t care for Sasuke or Obito yet they all use the same Jutsu so I guess I like Sasuke and obito now too then, right?

yawn.

can you at least read the manga you try debating.

Shrine yes in name but utilization is specific and different per era/person meaning the CT is hereditary and has been around since before Sukuna… just like Gojo clan has Limitless/6E the Ryomen Clan has Shrine, just like the Kamo clan has blood manipulation, I guess I wank Noritoshi cause I like Choso right?

your logic is lacking…

so what does Gojos thoughts of one person have to do with me again?

realistically he wanked Yuta not Yuji, he was using Yuji overall to have a vessel for Sukuna to finally be exorcised.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Tac about to cry again when sukuna whoops yuji next chap
think fight finally coming to an end at least to heian era Sukuna, not sure if Yujis BF punches carry the same soul disruption as his base punches do so Sukuna might not be as affected if so it’s hard to see him regain any more buffs.

unless Yujis black flashes on Sukuna carried the soul lower against Mahito then I can’t see Sukuna doing anything crazy he might be separated from Megumi but not sure how that works since Megumi is Sukunas vessel and he needs the body to actually live.
 
when it’s come to H2H/CQC even when he had Mahoraga and Agito against Gojo with one arm he wasn’t even impressive then, in fact Gojo was heavily impressive by how hard he bodied all three.
its almost as if gojo was fully boosted through black flashes and sukuna wasn't using DA :blobevil:


tho i dont think a speed reader like u will understand
 
People will see one-armed Sukuna easily handle Maki of all people in CQC and replicating her unique physical feats of jumping in the air, while his heart is pierced, his CE is in the slumps and he has no RCT, and claim Sukuna sucks at CQC.

Yuji is doing impressively against that same Sukuna, but that's Yuji's W, not an L on Sukuna.
 
People will see one-armed Sukuna easily handle Maki of all people in CQC and replicating her unique physical feats of jumping in the air, while his heart is pierced, his CE is in the slumps and he has no RCT, and claim Sukuna sucks at CQC.

Yuji is doing impressively against that same Sukuna, but that's Yuji's W, not an L on Sukuna.
Fraudji gets help from choso,laure,and ino
He s cooked anyways

@EmperorKinyagi @zenox
Sukuna saya "my other half still exists" does that mean if he kills fraudji he gets his full potential :shocked:
 
People will see one-armed Sukuna easily handle Maki of all people in CQC and replicating her unique physical feats of jumping in the air, while his heart is pierced, his CE is in the slumps and he has no RCT, and claim Sukuna sucks at CQC.

Yuji is doing impressively against that same Sukuna, but that's Yuji's W, not an L on Sukuna.
hating just to hate
pathetic clowns
and then they say they are his fans lol
Fraudji gets help from choso,laure,and ino
He s cooked anyways

@EmperorKinyagi @zenox
Sukuna saya "my other half still exists" does that mean if he kills fraudji he gets his full potential :shocked:
since when tf did u become a yuji hater
Werent u his fan
 

Apollo

The Sol King
You're lost.

Megukunas body by all feats that exist is the least durable body of Sukuna, that shit nearly got cooked to oblivion by a far weaker Jacob's ladder attempt from Angel, got destroyed by Kashimo meanwhile the real body of Sukuna tanked a maximum Jacob's ladder and beat Kashimos powers who couldn't destroy his body.



If you want to try wanking Gojo at least be consistent, Miguel strikes harder than Gojo as per canon and guess what he did to Sukunas real body.


By the way, if you deny that Miguel punches harder than Gojo then don't bother replying.
Megukuna's output was falling due to Megumi and he had only eaten 15 fingers by then

He literally states he can only use 10% of his power.

And as you can see, despite being so weakened this Megukuna quickly healed from Jacob's ladder.

Not sure why you're using Megukuna at his absolute weakest (1.5 Fingers worth) as the standard. I believe there is no evidence to suggest that Megukuna's body is the weakest.

If you want to try wanking Gojo at least be consistent, Miguel strikes harder than Gojo as per canon and guess what he did to Sukunas real body.


By the way, if you deny that Miguel punches harder than Gojo then don't bother replying.


Miguel might punch harder with CE reinforcement ONLY, Gojo's punches are powered up by his CT Blue. Re-read chapter 231 to refresh your memory on how Blue reinforces his punches.
 

Apollo

The Sol King
the sukuna fans really are living rent free in yo head aren't we? :suresure:


Sukuna has not been at full power this whole damn time lol.

He literally compared his ce to Yuta's. That was like half of his ce. And he has taken multiple hits from Yuji's soul stifling punches, further decreasing his ce and ct effectiveness.

He only hit his first black flash AFTER all that happened.

So comparing that to a pretty fresh Gojo is pretty retarded.

But you do you :kayneshrug:

see above :kata:
Gojo wasn't pretty fresh though. He had brain damage, his output was decreasing and when Sukuna was hit with Black flash he was 3 spins out of 4 into adapting to Blue.


Your boy should ask his nephew for tips on how to become a proper Black Flash merchant :kata:
 
Yuji always had one finger so Sukuna is only at 19 fingers. Gojo is weaker than 19 finger Sukuna :ihaha:

I saw it from a user called Bergelmir from fanverse this was the post
So you know that line in this chapter where Sukuna tells Uraume that Yuji was born as a player and had Sukuna's finger sealed in him? I had dismissed that as two separate statements. That Yuji was born as a player, and later, had a finger in him - referring to the fingers he ate starting with chapter 1.

Well, that sort of doesn't jive with the following statement that they were necessary steps to strengthen Yuji as a vessel, since he's already a strong vessel by chapter 1. And it doesn't jive with the final missing finger being eaten by Yuta(or Rika).

I saw some posts on 5ch that seem to have cleared it up. Basically. We thought Sukuna was at 20 fingers power - 19 fingers plus the head of his og corpse. But remember that image of Uraume presenting the final fingers and Sukuna eating them? Only three fingers were in that image. Everyone assumed one finger was either off screen or already eaten. 5ch is saying Uraume only ever had three fingers there. So Yuji eats 15 fingers over the series, Uraume gives three fingers to Sukuna, and the final finger has been sealed inside Yuji since he was a baby. So when Uraume and Sukuna are talking about where the final finger is, they already know one finger is in Yuji and they're factoring it into their finger count.

Sukuna specifically said it was sealed away in Yuji, not merged into Yuji. So its sealed, which prevented it from awakening and incarnating, and merging with the other fingers in Yuji. THAT's why Yuji is such a buff boi. Not a heavenly binding or whatever. Its mad science shit Kenjaku did using one of the fingers, just like people were theorizing
 
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