Questions & Mysteries What will change once it's revealed that Kizaru fed Luffy?

#4
It's highly likely it was Van Augur or Caribou.
None of them can move fast enough for marines to not see and to look as if Luffy just disappeared.

1. Van auger has to teleport and then touch Luffy, which marines would see
2. Van auger also has to know about food machine, which is basically impossible because he's first time in Egghead
3. Caribou same as Auger, marines would see Luffy sinking to the mud, but in Caribou's instance he's also not fast enough to outrun and look as if disappeared.

Anyway, this discussion is "what if". It's not about who did it.
 
#6
None of them can move fast enough for marines to not see and to look as if Luffy just disappeared.

1. Van auger has to teleport and then touch Luffy, which marines would see
2. Van auger also has to know about food machine, which is basically impossible because he's first time in Egghead
3. Caribou same as Auger, marines would see Luffy sinking to the mud, but in Caribou's instance he's also not fast enough to outrun and look as if disappeared.

Anyway, this discussion is "what if". It's not about who did it.
He would just have to teleport the food. And I don't see why he wouldn't know about the food machine, he was probably sneaking around while everyone was fighting.
And Kizaru is much less likely, he leaves light trails when he transforms, there's no way the Marines wouldn't see him.
 
#7
He would just have to teleport the food
1. once again, same problem, people would see him there with the food
2. Luffy was later on taken and rescued from marines

And I don't see why he wouldn't know about the food machine, he was probably sneaking around while everyone was fighting.
uh huh, they were pressing buttons and finding out that machines has infinite food instead of accomplishing their mission?

And Kizaru is much less likely, he leaves light trails when he transforms
this is straight up lie
Kizaru can literally stand in the middle of the group and they won't notice him until he starts talking
 
#8
1. once again, same problem, people would see him there with the food
2. Luffy was later on taken and rescued from marines
They would see him in the middle of a fucking war?
uh huh, they were pressing buttons and finding out that machines has infinite food instead of accomplishing their mission?
What else were they doing? Literally all they did besides that was touch Saturn to copy his appearance. That seemed to be their entire mission.
this is straight up lie
Kizaru can literally stand in the middle of the group and they won't notice him until he starts talking
Okay. Cool. He still has to leave behind a trail of light to get there and back.
 
#9
I see what you're doing, by talking about it as though it's a fact you are convincing yourself of some bullshit about Kizaru not getting trashed in one hit.

I get it man I do the same thing every time I start losing at poker.
 
#11
They would see him in the middle of a fucking war?
Marines were literally looking at Luffy while running at him
....yes, they would see Vauger appearing and grabbing Luffy
What else were they doing? Literally all they did besides that was touch Saturn to copy his appearance. That seemed to be their entire mission.
So they were playing with food machine the whole time despite it not being part of the mission?
Okay. Cool. He still has to leave behind a trail of light to get there and back.
No he doesn't... I literally posted the panel that showed no one saw Kizaru get there until he started talking
There was no light
 
#14
Marines were literally looking at Luffy while running at him
....yes, they would see Vauger appearing and grabbing Luffy

So they were playing with food machine the whole time despite it not being part of the mission?

No he doesn't... I literally posted the panel that showed no one saw Kizaru get there until he started talking
There was no light
So they wouldn't see him literally fucking standing at the food machine racking up food to give to Luffy?
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#17
If luffy is not aware then

It will mean kiz wasn't serious in both rounds...was just putting up the facade to fight him



If luffy is aware then

In second round even luffy didn't fight seriously.


But the issue is if Luffy was aware then he is blunt with this and doesnt hit those who provide him with food.


So, either luffy isn't aware or kiz didn't provide him with food
 
#18
You acted like I was wrong when I said the Marines wouldn't see Van Augur getting food at the machine but now you're saying Kizaru was at the machine and nobody noticed?
Dude, what part of you don't get that Auger will be perfectly visible once he teleports to Luffy?

To marines, Luffy disappeared in front of them.
If it was Auger, they would see his ass.
 
#19
Dude, what part of you don't get that Auger will be perfectly visible once he teleports to Luffy?

To marines, Luffy disappeared in front of them.
If it was Auger, they would see his ass.
All he needed to do is teleport the food to Luffy. I don't know why you think Luffy can't just go incredibly fast so the marines can't catch him. We see this happen with Sanji, King, Kuro, etc.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
#20
All he needed to do is teleport the food to Luffy. I don't know why you think Luffy can't just go incredibly fast so the marines can't catch him. We see this happen with Sanji, King, Kuro, etc.
I have few issues with this take.

1) Augur has no stakes involved in helping luffy. Second, Augur doesn't know luffy needs food to recover.

2) Augur can teleport so even if he will stop to deliver food or move luffy then in that instant he will become visible to others but manga says someone sneaked or someone really fast provided the food because no one knew from where food came from .

3) Luffy was out of energy so he was struggling to even move so we can safely assume that luffy got help. It always been the case - either luffy carried food in his pockets or got from someone

4) from plot perspective, kiz makes most sense.



Only issue with kiz helping luffy is that he end up killing VP in the following chapters.


So, if kiz really helped luffy then there is only one explanation - everything we have seen on egghead was an act played by Kiz and VP. Yes, real VP died but he might not for real with so many VPs roaming around.
 
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