Controversial General Political Discussion

[Mathias]

The issue with he have tolerated this people for what too long and way too much to a point that they infiltrated our societies etc.

Dude, just move away already. My Turkish cousin needs to steal your land

 

[Herrera95]

Go on, show me the hypocrisy mate, I'm listening/reading.

Already showed many times and you refuse to admit it because you either lack basic logic or basic moral.

 

[Logiko]

When you guys complain about leftist or right wingers, you really have to specify if it's on either the social or economic scale. On the social scale for example(the individual rights and freedoms of people), far left is unreasonablly lax while far right is unreasonably strict. Extreme left is pure chaos and anarchy. Extreme right is pure authoritarianism.

Some of you repeatedly get this shit backwards.

"Extreme left is pure chaos and anarchy"

There is no chaos in the extrem left. Anarchy has nothing to do with that notion. Anarchy just means stateless and without structure of monopole or power, order is still present but it comes from the people.

Also, authoritarism is not necessaraly a signal of the far right, those who call themself centrist can actually be authoritarian (we just have to see what happened is France this month)

The far right is fascist, its a little bit different.

woke cultural marxists

Can you explain precisely what is a "woke cultural marxist" ?

Because I know some woke that are not marxist, so that far right label is a little bit strange.

two biological genders

Two biological gender is a nonsence in term of definition.

Genders are social construct, they can't be biological. Educate yourself about that mate, if you want I have an entire library about leftism HERE

Or still wearing a mask outside in 2024


https://x.com/BuckSexton/status/1782886229941403890

I guess you don't know that Covid is still a thing and can still F. you up...

I heard of more than two genders besides male, female, and transgender.

There are actually a few, but its advanced stuff.

That dog retard really said that liberal demoncrats are not cultural marxists. HAHAHA

Oh, so you are confusing liberalism and woke AND marxism ?
Until now I had to make people understand how woke (basic leftism) and liberalism was completely different, but you take it a step further and adds a far left ideology into that..

Come on... you can't be that ignorant, right ?

For the reminder:

- Liberalism = Capitalism + meritocracy + individuality over environment + idealism
- Leftism/wokism = Anti capitalist Socialism + meritocracy + environment over individuality + materialism
- Marxism = Advanced Anti capitalism + Advanced materialism + Advanced meterialism + classless society + dictature of proleteriat

While marxism and basic leftism are similar the three political movements are completely different and liberalism is literally coming in opposition with the two others...

Time to check the library mate.

Already showed many times and you refuse to admit it because you either lack basic logic or basic moral.

So you don't have anything to say ? Noted.

 

[Uncle Van]

Ain't no fucking way someone thinks the American democratic party are Marxists lmao. That is extremely counterproductive for our captialist, corporate paid politicians lol.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Ain't no fucking way someone thinks the American democratic party are Marxists lmao. That is extremely counterproductive for our captialist, corporate paid politicians lol.

Funny thing is that he called Americans "stupid" while spewing the same conspiracy theories your average conservative American does.

 

[Ravagerblade]

Ain't no fucking way someone thinks the American democratic party are Marxists lmao. That is extremely counterproductive for our captialist, corporate paid politicians lol.

They aren't either. imo

 

[Mathias]

Funny thing is that he called Americans "stupid" while spewing the same conspiracy theories your average conservative American does.

We're in Democrat president years. Those who spew anti-american rhetoric are far-right. In one year you might see them switch places with anti-Trump Europeans

 

[Toby D. Dog]

We're in Democrat president years. Those who spew anti-american rhetoric are far-right. In one year you might see them switch places with anti-Trump Europeans

Hopefully not. But it doesn't matter how this election plays out, the result will usher chaos and instability either way.

 

[Saturn-sama]

They aren't either. imo

Morally they are comprised by corporatism ideologically definitively cultural marxism

 

[Toby D. Dog]

We're in Democrat president years. Those who spew anti-american rhetoric are far-right. In one year you might see them switch places with anti-Trump Europeans

What I find mind-boggling as well is how these idiots could ever ascribe labels such as "communist" or "irrational" to a moderate social democrat like me.

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Morally they are comprised by corporatism ideologically definitively cultural marxism

WHere's my ban Bobby? I've been waiting for months

 

[Roo]

The democrats are post modern neo Marxist pushing the woke agenda

 

[Mathias]

What I find mind-boggling as well is how these idiots could ever ascribe labels such as "communist" or "irrational" to a moderate social democrat like me.

Soc-dem political parties: *Make decades of alliances with neo-liberal policies triggered by Reagan*

MAGA: Hmmm that smells like communism

 

[Uncle Van]

Funny thing is that he called Americans "stupid" while spewing the same conspiracy theories your average conservative American does.

I'm honestly surprised he's not American given all the religious talk.

 

[Toby D. Dog]

Soc-dem political parties: *Make decades of alliances with neo-liberal policies triggered by Reagan*

MAGA: Hmmm that smells like communism

In America the social democrats are basically non exsistent

 

[Uncle Van]

I wonder what the next moral scapegoat is going to be 10 years from now. Right now is trans people. Immigrants has been a scapegoat since 1798 so they don't count.

 

[Logiko]

I wonder what the next moral scapegoat is going to be 10 years from now. Right now is trans people. Immigrants has been a scapegoat since 1798 so they don't count.

Anti-meritocrat.

I believe that it will be the next big fight of the left and since meritocracy is the myth that support the entire system behind capitalism and liberalism, you will see the biggest alliance of the right there has ever been against people who really want to challenge the concept.

That might also be the day where you see where real and fake leftist are.

 

[Red Night]

Yeah, I know. That's precisely why we need to use terms like that to create a wake up call. Because yeah bro, what is happening is horrific, and its INTENDED to be.



I was not speaking specifically about you per say it was a general "you". Sorry.

I'm mentionning that using the antisemitic card right now is REALLY not the time. Let me remind you that currently, multiple members of the opposition party in France, including the president of the biggest leftist party (this news just dropped yesterday) are being pressured by police complaints for antisemitism and terrorism apologism. So right now, the antisemitic card is being used as a tool ALL OVER THE WORLD to suppress any condamnation of the current genocide done by Israel. This is really not the best card and no, I do not want to "understand" jews or zionist that use this card to suppress the condamnation of a massacre. Those people are complicit in the invisibilization of an atrocity.

funny to see RN defending Israel now

 

[Logiko]

funny to see RN defending Israel now

Well, not really.

After all they are foundamentally racist and islamophobic and while a part of their base is still virulantly antisemitic, the heads of the party have adopted the hegemonic bourgeois narrative about the right of Israel to defend itself and therefore attacking muslim through the politic of Israel is perfect for them.

Also we must not forget that the Israelian gov is far right so their allegance is also logical on that side.

But something interesting might come and I'm very curious to see how the right (sos dem, liberals, conservative, far right) will handle that after having defended Israel's policy to the bone :

The International Criminal Court is considering issuing an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and other Israelian officials:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/29...sidering-issuing-arrest-warrant-for-netanyahu

 

[Red Night]

Well, not really.

After all they are foundamentally racist and islamophobic and while a part of their base is still virulantly antisemitic, the heads of the party have adopted the hegemonic bourgeois narrative about the right of Israel to defend itself and therefore attacking muslim through the politic of Israel is perfect for them.

Also we must not forget that the Israelian gov is far right so their allegance is also logical on that side.

But something interesting might come and I'm very curious to see how the right (sos dem, liberals, conservative, far right) will handle that after having defended Israel's policy to the bone :

The International Criminal Court is considering issuing an arrest warrant for Netanyahu and other Israelian officials:

https://www.euronews.com/2024/04/29...sidering-issuing-arrest-warrant-for-netanyahu

Well, RN is close to take the power, we'll if their pro-Israel narrative will be the same

 

[Logiko]

Well, RN is close to take the power, we'll if their pro-Israel narrative will be the same