Speculations Does Oda consider Murakumogiri (WB’s weapon) to be a sword?

[Shiroyru]

I certainly wouldn’t describe it as one, but all that really matters here is if Oda thinks it is.

I ask this because Oda straight up referred to Kamazo’s scythes as swords, and scythes are more dissimilar to swords than bisentos are

 

[MUUGEN]

yes, he is considered a swordsman along with big mom.

 

[Shiroyru]

yes, he is considered a swordsman along with big mom.

So how can WB be WSM, and Mihawk be WSS?

Either WB > Mihawk, so WB should have both titles

Or Mihawk > WB, so Mihawk should have both titles

Or WSS title really is just about sword skill instead of power level

 

[kekaro]

I certainly wouldn’t describe it as one, but all that really matters here is if Oda thinks it is.

I ask this because Oda straight up referred to Kamazo’s scythes as swords, and scythes are more dissimilar to swords than bisentos are

A Naginata is a Japanese Samurai blade weapon which is a polearm, not a sword.

It was called Naginata in an SBS and it wasn't corrected by oda so its not a sword

 

[Shiroyru]

A Naginata is a Japanese Samurai blade weapon which is a polearm, not a sword.

It was called Naginata in an SBS and it wasn't corrected by oda so its not a sword

I know that, but the issue is that Oda himself has had characters call a scythe a sword, even though a scythe obviously isn’t a sword

 

[kekaro]

I know that, but the issue is that ODs himself has had characters call a scythe a sword, even though a scythe obviously isn’t a sword

Ok but I gave you an instance where oda referred to as a naginata without correcting it so its a done case IMO unless new info comes out

 

[Shiroyru]

Ok but I gave you an instance where oda referred to as a naginata without correcting it so its a done case IMO unless new info comes out

I mean, I don’t see what’s stopping Oda from thinking a naginata is a type of sword

 

[kekaro]

I mean, I don’t see what’s stopping Oda from thinking a naginata is a type of sword

....cause a naginata is a polearm by definition

 

[Shiroyru]

....cause a naginata is a polearm by definition

So is a scythe. The issue here is that Oda doesn’t seem to have a good grasp on the difference between a bladed polearm and a sword

 

[kekaro]

So is a scythe. The issue here is that Oda doesn’t seem to have a good grasp on the difference between a bladed polearm and a sword

Right and your argument is they are something else and oda referred them as something else.
So as long as Oda doesn't refer to it as a sword it isn't imo.

 

[LolonoisZolo]

It's a blade not a sword.

 

[MUUGEN]

So how can WB be WSM, and Mihawk be WSS?

Either WB > Mihawk, so WB should have both titles

Or Mihawk > WB, so Mihawk should have both titles

Or WSS title really is just about sword skill instead of power level

cause mihawk is only a swordsman & WB was on the pinnacle that rivaled Roger.

WSM is the Person overall

WSS is the Persons skill level with a Sword

so mihawk could be a better swordsman than WB but hes not stronger than him.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Yes it’s one of the 12 supreme blades that tashigi wants to collect cause she loves swords so much.

 

[vikas]

Not sword

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

According to Road to Laugh Tale (Vol. 2), meitos can actually be polearms, claws, axes or even blunt weapons, like Kaido's club or Kanjuro's brush (yeah, they're meitos, but have no grade). Katakuri's Mogura ("Mole" in the page below), for example, is a ranked meito, but with a still unknown grade. Killer's Punishers are there too.

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Considering that, I don't think that Whitebeard can be regarded as a swordsman. If you do consider him a swordsman because he had a meito, then you should consider Kaido and Katakuri swordsmen too.

 

[kekaro]

According to Road to Laugh Tale (Vol. 2), meitos can actually be polearms, claws, axes or even blunt weapons, like Kaido's club or Kanjuro's brush (yeah, they're meitos, but have no grade). Katakuri's Mogura ("Mole" in the page below), for example, is a ranked meito, but with a still unknown grade. Killer's Punishers are there too.

Spoiler

Considering that, I don't think that Whitebeard can be regarded as a swordsman. If you do consider him a swordsman because he had a meito, then you should consider Kaido and Katakuri swordsmen too.

Kaidos weapon being one really shows oda pulled this shit from him his ass and doesn't care that shit has not even a blade

 

[Johnny B. Decent]

The reason why weapons like Naginata and Yari are lumped in with swords like Katana, is because the blade-making process for all of them are identical.

 

[Warine]

No it's a blade just like katakuri's trident

 

[Salah WG]

Not every Blade is a Sword
Meito include Blades, not just Swords

 

[Borasey79]

The issue is moot from the beginning.
No matter what WB uses, he isn't a swordsman.
Anybody can pick up a sword and start swinging it around: Luffy himself did it in Wano, albeit without unsheathing it.
What makes you a swordsman in OP is why you're using the sword, and how. It's identifying yourself with the blade. It's not about the weapon, but about technique and style. Mr. 1 had no weapon, yet he was a swordsman. Zombie-Ryuma was dead, yet still he displayed crafty swordsmanship because his spirit as a swordsman carried through from the afterlife.
WB was a brawler.
BM has a sword homie and throws haki punches now and again, but she is a DF user through and through.