Powers & Abilities Maybe this is a hot take but Zoro has better CoO than Sanji. If anyone can post Sanji CoO feats that are better than Zoros I’ll concede.

Does Zoro have better CoO than Sanji?

  • Yes

    Votes: 49 45.8%
  • No

    Votes: 58 54.2%

  • Total voters
    107
#21
So a feat comparable to Fishman Island Luffy, Zoro and Sanji sensing Caribou in the palace at a distance.

It's a good feat, Sanji has CoO and he can both sense things from afar (these instances) and predict enemy attacks (jelly bean).

Both are still basic CoO instances that, while they aren't bad at all, aren't winning the comparison on this thread. Not only has shown Zoro the same, he has shown better with the waking up scene.
Luffy Zoro and Sanji sensing Caribou isn’t at all comparable because that was one voice. Onigashima is an absolute mass of them. It’s like Mars says he can’t find the right voice. Meanwhile Sanji was able to find chopper, save him from Queen and everyone from the raining arrows simultaneously despite being no where’s near isn’t comparable to sensing caribou.
 
#23
Basic CoO doesn't dodge future sight
Yes, yes it does.

I know you're not interested in a honest exchange and this is all agenda but I'll break it down anyway.

- What exactly does it mean to attack with Future Sight?
Using future sight, Katakuri he can predict Sanji's actions and where his head will be. A Future Sight user can adjust his attack to hit the target no matter how he tries to dodge, since he knows his intentions and everything. As long as his speed, reaction speed, and stamina can keep up.

- This is true for melee attacks, but what about ranged attacks, like throwing a jelly bean?
Katakuri predicts where Sanji's head will be 5 seconds from now, so he throws a jelly bean there. Once the jelly bean leaves his fingers, the attack is out of his control and Katakuri can no longer adapt the attack to Sanji's position.

- What is CoO?
Every user of CoO can predict their opponents moves and aim. Every user sees somewhat into the future, the only difference with FS is that they see little into it, and some of them are only capable of reading intentions of seeing auras.
However, we had:
  • Satori on Skypiea, using CoO, knew Luffy was about to stretch his body before he knew about his ability and commented on it.
  • Enel, who didn't have FS, could dodge anything that came from Luffy as long as the attack wasn't random.
  • Rayleigh showcased basic CoO as a tool to predict the opponents moves.
  • Luffy, right after learning basic CoO, showcased it by effortlessly dodging the Pacifistas' lasers with minium movement.
  • etc, etc, etc
- So what happens if the victim of a ranged FS attack, like Sanji in this case, has basic CoO?
Once the jellybean has left Katakuri's hand, the attack is set, Katakuri's FS stops mattering. On the other hand, the victim, Sanji in this case, can still use CoO to predict the attack just like Luffy with the Pacifistas' lasers. Knowning where the attack will land, Sanji moves his head lightly out of the way... and dodges. Katakuri can't do anything about it.


Basic CoO.
 
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#24
Zoro focus is directly linked with his Sword cutting ability.
And better the focus , better CoO you will have.
Given he's a swordsman , He is great reaction time + also have great CoO.
That's why two Swordsman , Mihawk and Shanks , might be peak of CoO. Shanks Developing FS killer and Mihawk being known as Clairvoyant.
 
#25
not a hot take at all lol
zoro fights and blitzes speedsters


What makes that a CoO feat as oppose to Zoro being woken up by noise?
You can’t be serious your coping? He woke up and drew his sword immediately.
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That is basic COO feat

Something that Old Sick WB pulled on Ace daily
WB is a Yonko that is a compliment
 
#30
There may be a distinction to be made about the types of senses they use. Someone else mentioned that in earlier comments.

It depends on how you define Observation Haki then.

Which sense could they be using?

clairvoyance (clear seeing)
clairaudience (clear hearing)
clairsentience (clear feeling)
claircognizance (clear knowing)
clairalience (clear smelling)
clairgustance (clear tasting)

It's challenging to determine which one they are using and how proficient they are at it.

When they use different types, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
 
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#31
There may be a distinction to be made about the types of senses they use. Someone else mentioned that in earlier comments.

It depends on how you define Observation Haki then.

Which sense could they be using?

clairvoyance (clear seeing)
clairaudience (clear hearing)
clairsentience (clear feeling)
claircognizance (clear knowing)
clairalience (clear smelling)
clairgustance (clear tasting)

It's challenging to determine which one they are using and how proficient they are at it.

When they use different types, it's like comparing apples to oranges.
I’ll say this if it isn’t relevant in a fight then it’s useless for powerscaling. So being able to sense a woman’s tears from miles away doesn’t mean anything.
 
#36
#39
Sanji can see farther into the future than Luffy can, can't he?

So, Sanji likely has the most advanced clairvoyance on the crew. He did change the future that Katakuri was going to make. Though, I can't say for sure if it was because he had a vision right now.

It's all a little unclear.

I think Sanji is the closest one to having the same type of clairvoyance that Shanks did when he basically killed Kidd...

He also told Luffy to dodge when Saturn was about to blitz them a second later. That could be something. But then again Nami did the same thing when he tried to rush Robins.

Again pretty unclear lol...
 
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