Powers & Abilities Maybe this is a hot take but Zoro has better CoO than Sanji. If anyone can post Sanji CoO feats that are better than Zoros I’ll concede.

[DonWick]

Sanji can see farther into the future than Luffy can, can't he?

So, Sanji likely has the most advanced clairvoyance on the crew. He did change the future that Katakuri was going to make. Though, I can't say for sure if it was because he had a vision right now.

It's all a little unclear.

I think Sanji is the closest one to having the same type of clairvoyance that Shanks did when he basically killed Kidd...

He also told Luffy to dodge when Saturn was about to blitz them a second later. That could be something. But then again Nami did the same thing when he tried to rush Robins.

Again pretty unclear lol...

Sanji can’t see the future. Sanji dodged one Jellybean and Luffy dodge hundreds of attacks from Katakuri while dodging his siblings silent attacks before he has Future Sight. It was to the point that Katakuri was irritated because he couldn’t hit Luffy.

So with that information how can you say Sanji dodging one attack makes his CoO better than Luffy’s?

 

[OliveShark]

Sanji can’t see the future. Sanji dodged one Jellybean and Luffy dodge hundreds of attacks from Katakuri while dodging his siblings silent attacks before he has Future Sight. It was to the point that Katakuri was irritated because he couldn’t hit Luffy.

So with that information how can you say Sanji dodging one attack makes his CoO better than Luffy’s?

I recall Luffy saying himself that he's not quite on the level of Sanji's Color of Observation during Wano.

Am I the only one who remembers that or am I not remembering that right?

I'll go look through the chapters to see where he said it. It's a real pain to do that, though lol

 

[DonWick]

I recall Luffy saying himself that he's not quite on the level of Sanji's Color of Observation during Wano.

Am I the only one who remembers that or am I not remembering that right?

I'll go look through the chapters to see where he said it. It's a real pain to do that, though lol

You don’t have to I know exactly what you’re talking about. However, it was a gag moment because he heard women being hurt, which led him into a trap. Luffy didn’t sense the women crying because that’s Sanji’s gag.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

You don’t have to I know exactly what you’re talking about. However, it was a gag moment because he heard women being hurt, which led him into a trap. Luffy didn’t sense the women crying because that’s Sanji’s gag.

And when Sanji did the exact same thing to save chopper after showcasing this?

 

[Oliver]

At minimum they are the same, sanli has never shown a single impressive observation feat it's all been the most basic stuff. But Zoro has far more impressive opponents so he's winning until proven otherwise.

As someone said lanji fans thought that specialising in observation means his observation is special... they were wrong.

 

[DonWick]

And when Sanji did the exact same thing to save chopper after showcasing this?

I don’t even know what your talking about.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

I don’t even know what your talking about.

Literally immediately after this when Sanji was able to do the exact same thing he showed with the women when he saved chopper from Queen and pero?

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

I'd say his observation is equal to Sanji's or slightly above. But his Armament and CoC are so far above Sanji's it's ridiculous.

 

[DonWick]

Literally immediately after this when Sanji was able to do the exact same thing he showed with the women when he saved chopper from Queen and pero?

In that moment did Luffy make that claim?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

In that moment did Luffy make that claim?

The fact that Sanji duplicated the feat that made Luffy make this claim when it didn’t involve women is enough

 

[RoronoaZorro]

Commenting randomly so Sanji related thread is in the first page.

 

[Reborn]

Sanji has good CoO

But I don't think he will have haki as good as Zoro and luffy.

This whole thing that "sanji will specialise in CoO" stayed with the fans since we learnt that people often master one type of haki... but that was ages ago.


It's clear that haki is central point when it comes to Zoro and luffy and path of science is central to Sanji.


Sanji will have good basic haki but not at the same level as that of zoro and luffy

 

[DonWick]

The fact that Sanji duplicated the feat that made Luffy make this claim when it didn’t involve women is enough

Send me the chapter number is it the same thing? Same distance? Any variance invalidates this. Also still cap either way because Luffy has ACoO and Sanji doesn’t.

 

[BattalGazi]

If i put some money to the side everytime when a Zoro fan slandered Sanji, i would be rich now.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Send me the chapter number is it the same thing? Same distance? Any variance invalidates this. Also still cap either way because Luffy has ACoO and Sanji doesn’t.

What’s the difference?

And so? No one would claim Katakuri has better CoO than Enel or Fujitora? Just because Luffy has Future Sight doesn’t mean it’s better. Sanjis able to do things with CoO that Luffy can’t either. Regardless both have CoO feats well beyond Zoro.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Zoro is the one who orders Sanji to go to the performance floor and help out. If it‘s a CoO feat for anyone it’s for Zoro.

Absolutely nothing to suggest it‘s one for Sanji, and whether it‘s Zoro or Sanji it’s not a combat feat.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Zoro is the one who orders Sanji to go to the performance floor and help out. If it‘s a CoO feat for anyone it’s for Zoro.

Absolutely nothing to suggest it‘s one for Sanji, and whether it‘s Zoro or Sanji it’s not a combat feat.

Cause Zoro knew King and Queen were on the floor. And dude you can literally read the chapters, Zoro says that literally multiple chapters before Sanji jumps to the performance floor. After this Sanji keeps traveling with Izo and Kawamatsu then suddenly 4 chapters later just as chopper is about to die, Sanji jumps through the wall of the third floor then flies in to kick Queen and block all the candy arrows by coincidence?

Yeah that makes zero sense.

 

[DonWick]

What’s the difference?

And so? No one would claim Katakuri has better CoO than Enel or Fujitora? Just because Luffy has Future Sight doesn’t mean it’s better. Sanjis able to do things with CoO that Luffy can’t either. Regardless both have CoO feats well beyond Zoro.

That’s cap Katakuri has better CoO than anyone without FS. His FS is constantly active to. You tell me the difference I still don’t know the moment you’re talking about. But Sanji is well below Luffy and below Zoro until proven otherwise.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Cause Zoro knew King and Queen were on the floor. And dude you can literally read the chapters, Zoro says that literally multiple chapters before Sanji jumps to the performance floor. After this Sanji keeps traveling with Izo and Kawamatsu then suddenly 4 chapters later just as chopper is about to die, Sanji jumps through the wall of the third floor then flies in to kick Queen and block all the candy arrows by coincidence?

Yeah that makes zero sense.

And how did Zoro know that? He’d left the floor ages ago, same as Sanji.

You can literally read the chapters and see that Sanji doesn’t sense anything.

Zoro orders him to go to the performance floor, Sanji heads there and he arrives just in the nick of time to stop Queen attacking Chopper. He doesn’t sense Chopper in mortal peril and run half way across an island to find him, he‘s already there.

Multiple chapters is totally irrelevant, because Zoro and Sanji do nothing in between other than head to the performance floor.

It’s drama, not CoO. In Alabasta Zoro appeared out of nowhere at the very last second to stop Mr 1’s attack from hitting Nami, that isn’t CoO either.

A few chapters earlier we see that Sanji can’t sense where the Nine Scabbards, who are in danger are, and he has to interrogate a goon to find out.

 

[DonWick]

And how did Zoro know that? He’d left the floor ages ago, same as Sanji.

You can literally read the chapters and see that Sanji doesn’t sense anything.

Zoro orders him to go to the performance floor, Sanji heads there and he arrives just in the nick of time to stop Queen attacking Chopper. He doesn’t sense Chopper in mortal peril and run half way across an island to find him, he‘s already there.

Multiple chapters is totally irrelevant, because Zoro and Sanji do nothing in between other than head to the performance floor.

It’s drama, not CoO. In Alabasta Zoro appeared out of nowhere at the very last second to stop Mr 1’s attack from hitting Nami, that isn’t CoO either.

A few chapters earlier we see that Sanji can’t sense where the Nine Scabbards, who are in danger are, and he has to interrogate a goon to find out.

This explains why I didn’t know what he was talking about, because it didn’t happen