Speculations Black Blades Need to Be Durable For a Strange Reason

[OliveShark]

Black Blades Need to be Durable for a Strange Reason
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Perhaps Black Blades turn black in order to withstand Conqueror's coating at heightened levels. I saw a picture earlier that mentioned Kaido's weapon was particularly durable to withstand the might of his Conqueror's Haki.

Mihawk said something like even the might of an elephant won't break the blade if it's black, but I think all of this talk about swords not breaking is actually inverted. It's not the might of something else that is important to consider, it's the might of the swordsman themselves.

There is a potential for a swordsman to break his own sword by infusing it with powerful Haki. The "swords" that people have used where a particularly powerful person used it have often been explained to be able to allow the user to channel their full strength through it. Such is the case with Whitebeard and Kaido.

I've also seen comments from other users here who suggest that the power-up is simply to create an unbreakable blade. I want to suggest that there is more to it, and that the entire reason the blade needs to be unbreakable is because a mighty swordsman can channel an infinite amount of Haki into it. If a blade can't contain that energy, then the possibility that it will be destroyed as a result of the wielders own actions increases.

 

[Foul Legacy]

Roger , WB , Shanks(doubtful) all use Supreme Grade so that their Powers can be fully Channelized.
You will never see a top tier using Fodder Class Weapons.
But at the same time you will not see their weapons being used again (Roger and WB) , they have already set a benchmark with Roger and whitebeard and hence still remain at the grave while nobody touches them.
Zoro is on his way to increase Enma Rank , and he will probably have one Supreme Grade Sword In his arsenal Apart from Enma , Either Wado Rank increases or He changes Sandai with Shodai.

 

[Blazing Lion]

True, and the reason why people are now more perceptible to saying Mihawk > Roger. Because the black blade showcases the haki of the forger, strongest haki makes the strongest supreme grade black blade. Roger conquered the seas due to his haki, but his haki was not strong enough to forge a black blade nor did his haki broke his supreme grade blade.

Zoros haki must surpass Mihawks to forge a stronger sword to be able to channel a stronger attack and which will break Mihawks sword. Also the reason why anyone besides Mihawk makes zero sense for Zoros last fight/WSS fight.

 

[Album]

You know I saw a guy on YouTube theorize that in order to forge a black blade you need black fire that the swordsman needs to fight someone with black fire and their haki has to be good enough to not get melted from the guys fire (that shanks has black fire and it was against him that the blade was forged)
So basically zoro may end up forging a black blade thanks to sanji

 

[LolonoisZolo]

You know I saw a guy on YouTube theorize that in order to forge a black blade you need black fire that the swordsman needs to fight someone with black fire and their haki has to be good enough to not get melted from the guys fire (that shanks has black fire and it was against him that the blade was forged)
So basically zoro may end up forging a black blade thanks to sanji

The video you are talking about is from a fat black guy called King of Lightning isn't it ?
Noone else is moronic enough to try and give the Black blade feat to both Shanks AND Sanji hahahah

 

[Album]

The video you are talking about is from a fat black guy called King of Lightning isn't it ?
Noone else is moronic enough to try and give the Black blade feat to both Shanks AND Sanji hahahah

It was a guy called daks sake in his theory that sanjis Blackbeard opponent will be kuzan (you mean black fire where mihawk forged the black blade thanks to his fight with shanks (are we allowed to link vids basically the heat caused it to be forged which requires fire. You hear the sword In fire and slam it with. Hammer with a black blade you need to first imbue blade with armament hardening face someone in battle using black fire and repeatedly clash (say shanks and mihawks sword clashes where his blade is coated with black fire or for zoro vs sanji sanjis foot

 

[nik87]

"Durability is one of the characteristics of a black blade."
Keywords >one of (several)characteristics.
It is also proof of those sword users being carried by their swords.
Forgers of black blades are those who surpass their swords.

It is similar to DF awakening, when body and mind catch up to the fruit...
Same with black blades, the body and mind catch up to the swords.
All who failed to forge black blades couldn't catch up to the swords with body and/or mind.
It will focus more on the mind(haki) as that is what is required to forge a black blade.

 

[SakazOuki]

I will be very surprised if black blades held an actual advantage over the 12 grade blades, I see it more as a sign of a master swordsman, which is a sign of strength, but other forms of fighting are as strong if not stronger
Anything can happen though who the fuck knows at this point

 

[nik87]

I will be very surprised if black blades held an actual advantage over the 12 grade blades, I see it more as a sign of a master swordsman, which is a sign of strength, but other forms of fighting are as strong if not stronger
Anything can happen though who the fuck knows at this point

>Haki conquers everything
>Yoru is the strongest weapon in the world
>Forged into strongest by its user due to his haki

No other form of fighting is stronger than swordsmanship nor does another have a stronger haki than Mihawk.
This is as simple as 2+2. However you slice it, Mihawk and then Zoro stand on top of the whole world.
Whether Oda follows through with it or he somehow finds a loophole that haki>all doesn't apply, we will see.

 

[Album]

>Haki conquers everything
>Yoru is the strongest weapon in the world
>Forged into strongest by its user due to his haki

No other form of fighting is stronger than swordsmanship nor does another have a stronger haki than Mihawk.
This is as simple as 2+2. However you slice it, Mihawk and then Zoro stand on top of the whole world.
Whether Oda follows through with it or he somehow finds a loophole that haki>all doesn't apply, we will see.

We know that ryuumas blade isn’t a supreme grade blade but it’s. A black blade so black blade are not automatically above the other types of blades

and haki >all has never been a thing we see people beat people with haki when they don’t have it themselves people beating adv haki users when they don’t have it themselves

 

[Monster Zoro's Tesla Supplier]

>Haki conquers everything
>Yoru is the strongest weapon in the world
>Forged into strongest by its user due to his haki

No other form of fighting is stronger than swordsmanship nor does another have a stronger haki than Mihawk.
This is as simple as 2+2. However you slice it, Mihawk and then Zoro stand on top of the whole world.
Whether Oda follows through with it or he somehow finds a loophole that haki>all doesn't apply, we will see.

Also, they need a lot of strength and skill just to use them properly.

And this is a grade below Mihawk's. Imagine how much you'd need to master Mihawk's.
It's clear no average joe can just use these swords and do what Mihawk, Ryuma, and future Zoro have done. It ain't like that. Or else everyone and their mamas would have one.
Gotta be the strongest, the most skilled, and the overall best to make and master a black blade.

 

[Borasey79]

Remember Shanks getting aboard of WB's ship and chipping the wood with his presence alone? It's that, multiplied a hundred times. When you fight seriously and maximize your haki output, you need a blade able to channel your energy and resist it itself. If the blade breaks the second you channel too much haki, then the blade is useless. By incrementally releasing more and more haki through the blade, the blade itself starts feeding on it, being coated in it in such a way as to resist to an even higher output next. Eventually, this coating turns black. Eventually, the blade has been exposed to such an immense quantity of haki, the same that would level entire mountains, as to be recognized even by laymen as a special weapon.
This makes it obvious that a Meito is less so because of its blacksmith or the metal it was forged from, and more about its user. A proto-Meito needs a swordsman who cares for it, who doesn't push it to break immediately, but helps the blade grow as he himself grows in the craft and in his experience with haki. Turning a blade black is a long, tedious, and careful process, not something done overnight.

 

[nik87]

We know that ryuumas blade isn’t a supreme grade blade but it’s. A black blade so black blade are not automatically above the other types of blades

and haki >all has never been a thing we see people beat people with haki when they don’t have it themselves people beating adv haki users when they don’t have it themselves

The only reason why Ryuma's blade is 2nd rank could be to establish portrayal with Mihawk so there is no doubt that Mihawk is stronger than Ryuma. Considering Ryuma's legendary strength, there really is no other logical reason why his blade is 2nd grade.
We know that Yoru is above all other weapons as it is the strongest in the world.
And it is forged through haki.

We haven't even seen the peak of Haki yet, that is reserved for the era when Zoro surpasses Mihawk's haki.
We will not see the peak of haki through anyone else. All others are DF merchants or carried by racial abilities, like Lunarians...
Kaido's most important words are >Haki conquers everything and we already saw through Law/Kaido/BM that Haki negates DF abilities.
And that was just a glimpse of haki supremacy.

 

[Peroroncino]

wow an actual agendaless thread

 

[HellBlazer04]

It has already been established what black blades do. They are simply unbreakable blades.
There is nothing more to it. If there was we would have found out atleast a hint by now especially when so many vague haki techniques are getting revealed. Yet there are no clues or even any exposition on that. And I guarantee this clown author won't give any more attention to that concept

There is no special significance to a Black Blade aside from its toughness

 

[nik87]

There is nothing more to it

One of the characteristics of the black blade...
That alone implies that there are other characteristics that we don't know of.
We wont find out what the peak of power is like back in Thriller Bark...

 

[HellBlazer04]

One of the characteristics of the black blade...
That alone implies that there are other characteristics that we don't know of.
We wont find out what the peak of power is like back in Thriller Bark...

It is the Only characteristic.
Im not gonna speculate some made up ability when there is no evidence to support within story.

Black Blades are unbreakable blades and that's it.

 

[nik87]

It is the Only characteristic.
Im not gonna speculate some made up ability when there is no evidence to support within story.

Black Blades are unbreakable blades and that's it.

Zoro literally says One of the characteristics.
That alone implied more of them exist.
It is basic english.

 

[HellBlazer04]

Zoro literally says One of the characteristics.
That alone implied more of them exist.
It is basic english.

Do let me know the other characteristics pls.
If you can't, then there is none. They are unbreakable blades and that is their special characteristic.
And just as a reminder, that line from Zoro came before haki was introduced meaning the concept for black blades was already established and the main feature was the toughness

You still think this clown author will give exposition on Black Blades this late in the story when Wano was the perfect time to do that?
Im not dumb enough to have faith in this washed author.

 

[nik87]

Do let me know the other characteristics pls.
If you can't, then there is none. They are unbreakable blades and that is their special characteristic.
And just as a reminder, that line from Zoro came before haki was introduced meaning the concept for black blades was already established and the main feature was the toughness

You still think this clown author will give exposition on Black Blades this late in the story when Wano was the perfect time to do that?
Im not dumb enough to have faith in this washed author.

lol
Are you failing at English intentionally or what?
Just because we don't know them, it doesn't change the meaning of what Zoro said.

Also, haki is a concept since chapter 1.
Wano was of no importance, looking back.
It is just a background information for Ryuma's encounter with WG and stopping them from playing their games.

Whether we think Oda will do it or not, not the point.
The point is that Zoro said one of the characteristics and that means there are more.