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Yes, just like astrophysics dabbles with mathematics and cosmology. Sciences are connected.
But .. those ARE the conclusions....
Indeed and that's a problem. Just like sociologist are not considerered scientist, social sciences are targeted by liberals and conservatists basically because social sciences are questionning the status co and the established hegemonic narrative.
Ask a liberal if they are 100 % for science, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they believe in meritocracy, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they think that social science are sciences, they MIGHT say "YES".
Tell a liberal that sociology is tearing down the concept of Meritocracy and they will say "Sociology is a leftist ideology and its not a science"
The moment science starts to question the status co and the hegemony, science becomes illegitimate in the eyes of those who hold power. And yet.. Science is alive and Kings are dead.
We need to understand the scientificity of social sciences weither its history, psychology, anthropology, geography or sociology.
But .. those ARE the conclusions....
Indeed and that's a problem. Just like sociologist are not considerered scientist, social sciences are targeted by liberals and conservatists basically because social sciences are questionning the status co and the established hegemonic narrative.
Ask a liberal if they are 100 % for science, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they believe in meritocracy, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they think that social science are sciences, they MIGHT say "YES".
Tell a liberal that sociology is tearing down the concept of Meritocracy and they will say "Sociology is a leftist ideology and its not a science"
The moment science starts to question the status co and the hegemony, science becomes illegitimate in the eyes of those who hold power. And yet.. Science is alive and Kings are dead.
We need to understand the scientificity of social sciences weither its history, psychology, anthropology, geography or sociology.
Yes, just like astrophysics dabbles with mathematics and cosmology. Sciences are connected.
But .. those ARE the conclusions....
Indeed and that's a problem. Just like sociologist are not considerered scientist, social sciences are targeted by liberals and conservatists basically because social sciences are questionning the status co and the established hegemonic narrative.
Ask a liberal if they are 100 % for science, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they believe in meritocracy, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they think that social science are sciences, they MIGHT say "YES".
Tell a liberal that sociology is tearing down the concept of Meritocracy and they will say "Sociology is a leftist ideology and its not a science"
The moment science starts to question the status co, science becomes illegitimate in the eyes of those who hold power. And yet.. Science is alive and Kings died.
We need to understand the scientificity of social sciences weither its history, psychology, anthropology, geography or sociology.
But .. those ARE the conclusions....
Indeed and that's a problem. Just like sociologist are not considerered scientist, social sciences are targeted by liberals and conservatists basically because social sciences are questionning the status co and the established hegemonic narrative.
Ask a liberal if they are 100 % for science, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they believe in meritocracy, they will say "YES".
Ask a liberal if they think that social science are sciences, they MIGHT say "YES".
Tell a liberal that sociology is tearing down the concept of Meritocracy and they will say "Sociology is a leftist ideology and its not a science"
The moment science starts to question the status co, science becomes illegitimate in the eyes of those who hold power. And yet.. Science is alive and Kings died.
We need to understand the scientificity of social sciences weither its history, psychology, anthropology, geography or sociology.
There’s no need to be humble to an objective truth which is: historians don’t make conclusions, and history is a discipline where you can’t draw any kind of “law” or conclusion from, which is something you do need for something to be labeled as science.
As I said, historians don’t consider themselves scientists, because they aren’t. It doesn’t take away from the discipline or from the hard work of compiling info, it’s just the way things are.
As I said, historians don’t consider themselves scientists, because they aren’t. It doesn’t take away from the discipline or from the hard work of compiling info, it’s just the way things are.
Social sciences are not about universality, that one of the thing people miss out. The fact that they are social makes it that they are contextual in time and space. So you will find very few "laws" like natural sciences.
And yet.. they are. But I would love to talk about those historian who don't consider themself scientists.
And yet.. they are. But I would love to talk about those historian who don't consider themself scientists.
You compared history taking conclusions from sciences to astrophysics using math. The purpose of that argument can only be that they are the same, but I hope you realise astrophysicists know math and use it themselves for their own conclusions, while historians know errr history.
We’re talking about history only, don’t move the goalpost.
I think just talk to any historian
We’re talking about history only, don’t move the goalpost.
I think just talk to any historian
No. I compared the fact that sciences have porosity between themself. Meaning that history can take from sociology or archeology which can take to biology which can take to physic which can take from mathematic Etc.
I AM talking about history. History like other social science needs to be studied in context through time, space and socialization.
I AM talking about history. History like other social science needs to be studied in context through time, space and socialization.
It's not a science, it's just a discipline
Most scientist will actually tell you that the carcan "scientific method" is missleading.
https://www.snexplores.org/article/problems-scientific-method
Some scientists prefer to it the term "scientific practice" or "scientific thinking". Its much more in line with what they actually do.
But you highlighted one of the problematic of science: human are bias and EVEN the scientific process can be bias. That's why scientific rely on a LOT of informations, data, experiences, reproductibility etc. Indeed an historian can be bias, that's why their discipline must be done rigorously.
Just like others scientific disciplines, escaping bias can be very hard, that's why we rely on the scientific practice and good ethics.
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