But it's the same thing. You might not be taking mechanical action, but you're still sheeping - your discarding your read to support that of another. I mean, just look at how Ultra is engaging with me here. He's out of his depth, he knows it too, that's why he's shutting down and blaming it on Flower. If that's the quality of read/process you want to put your faith in, to the point of discarding your own read, then I don't think anything that I do, say or claim is really going to matter, is it?