Qin Great Generals All Time Ranking
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Tou was weaker than Ouki during Bayou and during their partnership
Tou had less experience and more importantly less experience leading himself. And less weight because of that and not shouldering himself his army and soldiers.
‘But now the gap is already being smaller and smaller with Tou accumulating XP and EOS I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he is reaching the same level or surpass him by a hair.
Tou had less experience and more importantly less experience leading himself. And less weight because of that and not shouldering himself his army and soldiers.
‘But now the gap is already being smaller and smaller with Tou accumulating XP and EOS I wouldn’t be surprised at all if he is reaching the same level or surpass him by a hair.
That’s not how things should work, we are assessing those generals talents not their feats
Feats made in a more prosperous era too. King Sho and his generals laid all the foundations for this generation.
I doubt conquering Han is harder than invading a chunky region like Sanyou anyway (as an example)
Feats made in a more prosperous era too. King Sho and his generals laid all the foundations for this generation.
I doubt conquering Han is harder than invading a chunky region like Sanyou anyway (as an example)
Nah, thats a fanfic. Renpa never called him unbeatable. In fact Renpa considered himself to be the best of the old generation. Whether that is true or not is irrelevant, the fact is, Hakuki didn't impress Renpa enough to decisively consider him better then himself.
There are already 4 characters that have equal or better intel stat and it's still possible there will be more. That doesn't really make Hakuki stand out among genius strategists as much to consider him the greatest based on this single factor.
There are already 4 characters that have equal or better intel stat and it's still possible there will be more. That doesn't really make Hakuki stand out among genius strategists as much to consider him the greatest based on this single factor.
Conquering Han is 100 times harder than invading Sanyou. What.
Anyway the old Qin 6 conquered smaller states but never the seven major states, that was the failure of their era, that they ultimately were incapable of unifying China by conquering the final seven states.
The new Qin 6 definitively unifying China by conquering the final seven states is literally what Renpa said would qualify as surpassing his generation.
See above, they conquered smaller states but never the seven major states.
Anyway the old Qin 6 conquered smaller states but never the seven major states, that was the failure of their era, that they ultimately were incapable of unifying China by conquering the final seven states.
The new Qin 6 definitively unifying China by conquering the final seven states is literally what Renpa said would qualify as surpassing his generation.
Not necessarily, it's pretty reasonable to assume that Ouki and the others conquered regions comparable to Han in size.
But even so, conquering territory is just one feat that could be used for scaling.
But even so, conquering territory is just one feat that could be used for scaling.
He said he personally found him the most troublesome. It just means styles make fights and Renpa didn't like Hakuki's style, that's all. Being the leader doesn't make you the strongest. Shin will never be the leader of the current Qin 6 because he'll get in quite late compared to guys like Ousen and Moubu who've been there from the start, but he'll be the strongest. Kinda like Ouki.
He said Hakuki read him like a book, never fell for his baits and always countered him, lol
So we know Hakuki was undefeated irl, do you think Hara will change that
That joke line he threw? Come on lmao
Riboku & Ousen - one of the four goats
Gakuki - recognized as a god of war like Hakuki was in that era
SHK
SHK aside, I don’t see how anyone is beating him in int
Regardless, stats are useless in the grand scale of things. Gokei literally has B experience..
Look at the armies Qin sent to conquer Sanyou and Gyou
Sanyou - 250k
Mougou, Ousen, Kanki
Opponents: Renpa and the HKs
Gyou - 250k
Ousen, Kanki, YTW
Opponents: Riboku, Houken, Quarong, Gyou’Un, Chougaryuu, Kisui etc
Han isn’t really a major state militarily, they survived the warring states due to their culture/ philosophy and what not. Spies played their part too.
Riboku also mentioned that the reason Qin couldn’t conquer Han was because Zhao and Wei would always send big armies to defend it, they really can’t do shit on their own lol
There’s no way the Han invasion will be on the scale of campaigns such as Gyou or Sanyou, be it the numbers or quality of generals. I’ll be shocked if Han has a general on Gyou’Un’s level
So we know Hakuki was undefeated irl, do you think Hara will change that
That joke line he threw? Come on lmao
Riboku & Ousen - one of the four goats
Gakuki - recognized as a god of war like Hakuki was in that era
SHK
SHK aside, I don’t see how anyone is beating him in int
Regardless, stats are useless in the grand scale of things. Gokei literally has B experience..
Look at the armies Qin sent to conquer Sanyou and Gyou
Sanyou - 250k
Mougou, Ousen, Kanki
Opponents: Renpa and the HKs
Gyou - 250k
Ousen, Kanki, YTW
Opponents: Riboku, Houken, Quarong, Gyou’Un, Chougaryuu, Kisui etc
Han isn’t really a major state militarily, they survived the warring states due to their culture/ philosophy and what not. Spies played their part too.
Riboku also mentioned that the reason Qin couldn’t conquer Han was because Zhao and Wei would always send big armies to defend it, they really can’t do shit on their own lol
There’s no way the Han invasion will be on the scale of campaigns such as Gyou or Sanyou, be it the numbers or quality of generals. I’ll be shocked if Han has a general on Gyou’Un’s level
Yeah, Renpa had a hard time against him, but Renpa is also build more towards direct warfare. In the manga Hakuki also couldn't break Renpa defense in Chouhei or at least it was implied to be the case.
I don't see why not. Riboku and Ousen also were suposed to be undefeated, but Hara decided to change that.
There's also Rinshoujo.
Either way, if you don't use stats for scaling old gen then it always turns into guessing and headcanon since we haven't seen most of them in action.
I don't see why not. Riboku and Ousen also were suposed to be undefeated, but Hara decided to change that.
There's also Rinshoujo.
Either way, if you don't use stats for scaling old gen then it always turns into guessing and headcanon since we haven't seen most of them in action.
Depends on Hara.
If he follows history, then Haku Ki is the greatest, once he conquered 70 cities, using a very brutal way to conquer them, like his name really scared all of China back then, he was pretty scary.
Ou Sen should follow Haku Ki, Ou Sen's greatest potential is yet to be introduced in the manga.
As for Shin, it also depends on Hara, Shin doesn't have Haku Ki's brutality, nor Ou Sen's prudence, his motivation to be a great general is beyond stupid and naive, if Hara gives some substance to his character, I think he can take the 3rd place.
If he follows history, then Haku Ki is the greatest, once he conquered 70 cities, using a very brutal way to conquer them, like his name really scared all of China back then, he was pretty scary.
Ou Sen should follow Haku Ki, Ou Sen's greatest potential is yet to be introduced in the manga.
As for Shin, it also depends on Hara, Shin doesn't have Haku Ki's brutality, nor Ou Sen's prudence, his motivation to be a great general is beyond stupid and naive, if Hara gives some substance to his character, I think he can take the 3rd place.
