Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1116 Spoilers Discussion

What Marines know about the Ancient Weapons?

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Celestial D. Dragon

Celestial D. Dragon

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Well, we already know the answer as to why the Roger pirates didn't do anything. They were too early, and Roger was dying.

Roger did do something however, as he knew someone was going to come along and finish what he started, so in his dying breath he sparked the Great Pirate Age. Now we know the reason why he did that, as it was to draw out the person who would one day put an end to this Ancient War.

Why didn't they warn the World though? Could be a few reasons, but I think the simplest one is that they were Pirates, and no one would have believed them regardless. Even a renowned scientist like Vegapunk broadcasting it to the World has people doubting him. Who would believe the most infamous pirate crew to ever live?
 
Wano Never Happened

Wano Never Happened

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Celestial D. Dragon said:
Well, we already know the answer as to why the Roger pirates didn't do anything. They were too early, and Roger was dying.

Roger did do something however, as he knew someone was going to come along and finish what he started, so in his dying breath he sparked the Great Pirate Age. Now we know the reason why he did that, as it was to draw out the person who would one day put an end to this Ancient War.

Why didn't they warn the World though? Could be a few reasons, but I think the simplest one is that they were Pirates, and no one would have believed them regardless. Even a renowned scientist like Vegapunk broadcasting it to the World has people doubting him. Who would believe the most infamous pirate crew to ever live?
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I guess you could argue that if they had revealed the secrets, the Gorosei would've expedited their "Great Cleansing" and ruined every chance of Soy Boy making a return immediately. On the other hand, shouldn't the WG know about this prophecy too...? Why wait until now?
 
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Poorsalino Cooker said:
It would've been better if he actually kept to that sort of moral ambiguity theme consistent, but the minute he introduced stuff like the Just 11 Jurymen and most notably the celestial dragons, which he made over the top evil, just kinda tossed any moral ambiguity out the window. With the Just 11 Jurymen I can sort of just dismiss it as Ennies Lobby trials just being ceremonial since being sent there is already a death sentence and Spandam was corrupt as heck and just feels like standard government unfairness. But the Celestial Dragons felt like the ultimate red flag since their introduction, much like all of Sabaody.
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To me the CD just remind of the old days with how nobles could do what ever they wanted or just even slavery .
Truth is some world leaders and people in power do that in there countries to this day.
IMO there is no over top evil when look at what happen in our world in history and even today .
Just in certain places people can't get away with certain things any more.
 
Sir Yasheen

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Wano Never Happened said:
I guess you could argue that if they had revealed the secrets, the Gorosei would've expedited their "Great Cleansing" and ruined every chance of Soy Boy making a return immediately. On the other hand, shouldn't the WG know about this prophecy too...? Why wait until now?
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Cause Roger warned people without getting his crewmates in danger and by giving people something they’d believe. He told people to go to sea. He gave lots of people reason to learn to survive on the ocean.

If he said “The World Government is trying to sink the world!” No one would believe him except the WG who’d now want to hunt down every member of his crew without fail. Hell people barely believe Vegapunk who’s a more reputable source than a pirate who terroized the sea for decades. But they will believe him about treasure
 
TheLastBerserker

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ZenZu said:
He held back immensely, it's what convinced me. Before the fight I had Prime Garp slightly ahead of C3 bar Akainu.
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Held back immensely lmao thats wild Aokiji couldn't win easily while jumping him. The only people you can accurately compare Prime Garp to is Whitebeard and Roger. Old Garp = Old Roger the hardest pill to swallow.
 
MarineHQ

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We have seen Kuzan’s full potential on PH. Any Yoncuck can fuck off with the cope that he went all out. When Logia awakening is revealed you all gotta accept that Kuzan didn't even use half his strength to beat the shit out of someone that eats Yonkou for breakfast.

Hell it ain't even Logia Awakening. He bodied Garp with basic Ice moves lmao.
 
TheLastBerserker

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Lee Ba Shou said:
Garp himself said Kuzan was holding back lol
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sauce pls
"All the admirals every do is sandbag." copium
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MarineHQ said:
We have seen Kuzan’s full potential on PH. Any Yoncuck can fuck off with the cope that he went all out. When Logia awakening is revealed you all gotta accept that Kuzan didn't even use half his strength to beat the shit out of someone that eats Yonkou for breakfast.

Hell it ain't even Logia Awakening. He bodied Garp with basic Ice moves lmao.
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Garp got jumped by arguably endgame villains.
Kuzan in the initial clash was getting fucked up.
Garp easily beat San Juan.
Took Shiryu to wait for an opening through a whole other person to stand a chance at wounding Garp.
The majority of Fullelead was like focus Garp down.
in a true 1v1 till the end Kuzan loses
 
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