Chapter Discussion How much do the Fleet Admirals know?

#1
To me it seems like Sengoku and Akainu know everything. That seems a bit weird to me. Just imagine working your way up to the second highest position in the Marines and then upon becoming an FA they tell you, “don’t get to comfortable, we gone sink this bitch.” Then they tell you about the void century which likely goes against what you believe.

Why do you stay? Are Kong, Akainu, and Sengoku just a couple of twisted motherfuckers or am I missing something?

It’s clearly more to the story because I don’t see a bunch of devil fruit users being ok with the world sinking.it doesn’t seem to be enough Sky Islands for everyone.
 
#3
They have an idea on the full strength of the WG. Hence they probably know the WG has Uranus. It would be akin to a military general having knowledge on a nation’s nuclear capabilities.

I’d say they likely don’t know about Imu however.
It seemed like Akainu had an idea about the sink the world plan.
 
#4
Vegapunk should be way more important to the WG and it was stated that even he would be shown no mercy if he asked too much. Dunno why the Gorosei would tell a soldier whose job is to enforce their laws get inside on ancient knowledge.

We know Sengoku knows shit, but I'm not sure whether the WG told him directly. Sengoku is a smart man. With his position and connections he might have different ways of finding out some secrets. Hell we don't even know if Garp knows anything.

If Akainu has any knowledge I'm more inclined to believe that his source was Dragon.
 
#5
Why do you stay? Are Kong, Akainu, and Sengoku just a couple of twisted motherfuckers or am I missing something?
Necessary evil sort of thing.


Fact is, while WG is an absolutely fascist and terrible govt body, the vast majority of the op world isn't affected day to day by them.

Instead, they're affected by pirates.

Not the mickey mouse pirates that are shp.

But actual pirates that plunder and murder and rape.


To the FA's, serving the WG is a necessary evil to bring some semblance of order and safety to the people of the world.


To me it seems like Sengoku and Akainu know everything. That seems a bit weird to me. Just imagine working your way up to the second highest position in the Marines and then upon becoming an FA they tell you, “don’t get to comfortable, we gone sink this bitch.” Then they tell you about the void century which likely goes against what you believe.
It’s clearly more to the story because I don’t see a bunch of devil fruit users being ok with the world sinking.it doesn’t seem to be enough Sky Islands for everyone.
They most likely don't know the whole of it.


It's not like the gorosei just hand out pamphlets to every FA containing all the atrocities done by the WG. It's more like they piece together stuff with the information that's available to them. Information thats still not complete, and is only available to them due to the privileges of being FAs.



Like, Akainu doesn't know Imu's existence completely.


 

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#7
Sengoku reacts to the D news from Law, but there’s a few people who have reacted that way to a D. Whether he actually knows about it in detail or just is aware that Ds always have a big effect in history is hard to say. I think he will know a bit more than most about it, but not any great details.

Sengoku and Akainu both had that opaque conversation about why Wano is important in the big bounty chapter.

Now this chapter we are seeing the Ancient Weapon news isn’t really news to them.

I think they are told about the Ancient Weapons, where they are and what they can do. Pluton certainly seems to be the least hidden, CP9 knew about it, Croc knew, makes sense a FA would know more.

I don’t think they know about Imu.

Akainu may also have been told more than usual because Marines had to be interrupted during the Lulusia broadcast when the island was sunk
 
#8
Necessary evil sort of thing.


Fact is, while WG is an absolutely fascist and terrible govt body, the vast majority of the op world isn't affected day to day by them.

Instead, they're affected by pirates.

Not the mickey mouse pirates that are shp.

But actual pirates that plunder and murder and rape.


To the FA's, serving the WG is a necessary evil to bring some semblance of order and safety to the people of the world.




They most likely don't know the whole of it.


It's not like the gorosei just hand out pamphlets to every FA containing all the atrocities done by the WG. It's more like they piece together stuff with the information that's available to them. Information thats still not complete, and is only available to them due to the privileges of being FAs.



Like, Akainu doesn't know Imu's existence completely.


It just seems like they shouldn’t know anything. How is knowing beneficial for the governments goal?
 
#9
It just seems like they shouldn’t know anything. How is knowing beneficial for the governments goal?
Govt isn't intentionally sharing these info as far as we know.

The FA are just putting 2 and 2 together and figuring it out on their own.


Also, FA's knowing some stuff is actually kinda beneficial for the WG. In a threat sort of way.

Like, "you know we can erase entire islands. So don't even think about rebelling"
 
#11
I don't think they know that much. Kong's and Sengoku's knowledge probably stems from the years of experience at the sea + the proximity they had with the WG higher ups. Even if they didn't see (or sense) Imu, they probably noticed that there were someone else pulling the strings.

On top of that, Sengoku possibly had chances to chat with Roger, Rayleigh, Whitebeard and other legends of his time as an admiral (or maybe even Garp told him about his talks with these guys), just like Smoker does with Luffy currently... on one of these occasions he could've known more about the secrets of the world, but I don't think he knows about the sea levels rising.
 
#14
Sengoku seems to know a lot more than Akainu, from his decades of experience dealing with the high ups of the WG he must have gotten some things. When he talk with Law he seems to know something about the Will fo D. and when WB make his final speech Sengoku seems to know a bit on what he was talking about.

Pehaps he got a lot of info on some insides of WG from working many years as FA, and also got some things from Rocks, Roger, WB and Garp.


Akainu pehaps know that the WG was the one that destroyed Lulusia, on orders of the Gorosei, using some kind of new weapon, but he didnt seems to know about much more than that.

Besides, not even Vegapunk seems to know about Imu, and probably besides the high-up Celestials, only the former Roger Pirates, the Revos leadership and Wapol know about him
 
#15
I don't think they know that much. Kong's and Sengoku's knowledge probably stems from the years of experience at the sea + the proximity they had with the WG higher ups. Even if they didn't see (or sense) Imu, they probably noticed that there were someone else pulling the strings.

On top of that, Sengoku possibly had chances to chat with Roger, Rayleigh, Whitebeard and other legends of his time as an admiral (or maybe even Garp told him about his talks with these guys), just like Smoker does with Luffy currently... on one of these occasions he could've known more about the secrets of the world, but I don't think he knows about the sea levels rising.
Didn't read chapter #1116 when I wrote this, but after reading it I think that Sengoku and Akainu know more than I previously thought. IMO, they still don't know about Imu though (maybe they only have a hunch).

It's weird, really... what if the Fleet Admiral didn't accept this flooding thing? That could possibly cause a massive turmoil in the WG, I don't think it's something that's supposed to be talked to non-CDs. (On a side note, Sengoku is even more of an asshole than I thought.)
 
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#18
It's possible that they told him about Uranus since they need to. Destroying an island may cause an uproar and the Marines is most likely assigned to not let anyone know much about it. And the existence of the ancient weapons isn't that much of a secret, a few people already know. But everything else is new to him.
 
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