Questions & Mysteries God Valley: Whitebeard or Uranus?

[shadow31]

And you believe kuma and ivankov would have choose that?
CD would managed Earthquake better than Slaves and could have easily killed the user , given they just got the fruit.

Dude, what prevents an author to make his characters say "okay, we have 6 chests and one has the Uo Uo no Mi, one has the Gura Gura no mi and one has the Nikyu Nikyu no mi. We have to take the last one to flee".
Nothing prevents that.

So if the Gura Gura no mi didn't get mentioned, it's just because it was not here..

 

[Foul Legacy]

Dude, what prevents an author to make his characters say "okay, we have 6 chests and one has the Uo Uo no Mi, one has the Gura Gura no mi and one has the Nikyu Nikyu no mi. We have to take the last one to flee".
Nothing prevents that.

So if the Gura Gura no mi didn't get mentioned, it's just because it was not here..

Again are you purposely trying to play dumb?
What part of "unknown potential" you do not understand?

Kaku didn't know what he was eating , Luffy didn't know what he was eating , Ace didn't know what he was eating , bigmam didn't know what she was eating.

Only a few set of people know what they are eating.

 

[shadow31]

Again are you purposely trying to play dumb?
What part of "unknown potential" you do not understand?

Kaku didn't know what he was eating , Luffy didn't know what he was eating , Ace didn't know what he was eating , bigmam didn't know what she was eating.

Only a few set of people know what they are eating.

You are sure it's not you who's playing dumb ???

You're giving me examples in which the element of surprise is important. Kaku was discovering his fruit alongside us. Same with Luffy, Ace, etc...

While on God Valley, the author specifically mentioned two fruits so why would not revealed a 3rd fruit which got eaten by a character who was on God Valley ???? Like I said, from an author's perspective, that doesn't make sense.

 

[Foul Legacy]

While on God Valley, the author specifically mentioned two fruits so why would not revealed a 3rd fruit which got eaten by a character who was on God Valley ???? Like I said, from an author's perspective, that doesn't make sense.

Who tf said he ate in gods valley... he could have eat it afterwards... taking it from God's valley.

 

[Kung-Fu Dugong]

The 6 chests were irrelevant prizes compared to the DFs. There were only 2 DFs.

Dude, what prevents an author to make his characters say "okay, we have 6 chests and one has the Uo Uo no Mi, one has the Gura Gura no mi and one has the Nikyu Nikyu no mi. We have to take the last one to flee".
Nothing prevents that.

So if the Gura Gura no mi didn't get mentioned, it's just because it was not here..

Again are you purposely trying to play dumb?
What part of "unknown potential" you do not understand?

Kaku didn't know what he was eating , Luffy didn't know what he was eating , Ace didn't know what he was eating , bigmam didn't know what she was eating.

Only a few set of people know what they are eating.

I don't particularly think that Gura Gura was there, but Ginny could've only mentioned these 2 fruits because they would be useful in their escape (both of them allow the user to fly and carry/transport other people too).

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However, what makes it very unlikely is that Ivankov didn't knew the appearance of the fruits, so it would be weird for him to grab only two if they had more of them. (It's funny because Nikyu Nikyu is literally a paw, so he may also be playing dumb to eat the mythical zoan DF, lol. In any case, I don't think they wouldn't take the chance to steal other DFs if they were there.)

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[shadow31]

Who tf said he ate in gods valley... he could have eat it afterwards... taking it from God's valley.

Even more excuses I see...
Keep digging to find more.

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However, what makes it very unlikely is that Ivankov didn't knew the appearance of the fruits, so it would be weird for him to grab only two if they had more of them. (It's funny because Nikyu Nikyu is literally a paw, so he may also be playing dumb to eat the mythical zoan DF, lol. In any case, I don't think they wouldn't take the chance to steal other DFs if they were there.)

Thank you !!! Finally someone who understands that.

 

[Foul Legacy]

Even more excuses I see...
Keep digging to find more.

Bro ignored one single since the very and pretending we won this shit or something.

 

[shadow31]

Bro ignored one single since the very and pretending we won this shit or something.

The very fact you mentioned that means it's your mindset when you're debating here...

I'm not here to win anything. When I'm wrong, I admit it. But some of you want absolutely have a point, sometimes beyond every logical narrative by inventing things...

 

[Foul Legacy]

The very fact you mentioned that means it's your mindset when you're debating here...

I'm not here to win anything. When I'm wrong, I admit it. But some of you want absolutely have a point, sometimes beyond every logical narrative by inventing things...

Bruh , All I gave was a possiblity of " Not knowing the potential of the fruit and people didn't had any idea about the fruit " it was unknown and nobody cared much and prices only slaves were after was Nikyu Nikyu or Kaidou fruit.
Gura doesn't help anyone get off the island.
You brought in the author perspective to Character perspective bruh , Majority of the verse don't know what they are eating , only few DF would have been identified back then.

We have legit no clear evidence on when WB got the fruit, all we know he didn't carry WSM in God's valley and got it after wards.

 

[shadow31]

Majority of the verse don't know what they are eating , only few DF would have been identified back then.

Kung-Fu Dugong gave you a logical answer.
From a character's perspective, it doesn't make sense they grab only two fruits if there were more, kwowing Ivankov and Kuma didn't look like they knew the fruits' apparence.

From an author's perspective, it doesn't make sense you're revealing two items and not a 3rd more important item. Because like I said, nothing prevents Oda to make his characters say that the Gura Gura no mi were there but his characters have to take only the Uo Uo no Mi and the Nikyu Nikyu no mi to escape.

We have legit no clear evidence on when WB got the fruit, all we know he didn't carry WSM in God's valley and got it after wards.

Yeah, and that narrows it down to a range from 38 years ago to 25 years ago (let's say 30 years ago given the Vivre Cards said Whitebeard was the WSM way before the great age of pirates). So it could be anytime in a range of 13 years which doesn't help much.

 

[Herrera95]

Bruh we were never revealed what were in the other chests.
Do my words go through your head or not?

Ok so Ancient Weapons at chest are possible. Got it.

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However, what makes it very unlikely is that Ivankov didn't knew the appearance of the fruits, so it would be weird for him to grab only two if they had more of them. (It's funny because Nikyu Nikyu is literally a paw, so he may also be playing dumb to eat the mythical zoan DF, lol. In any case, I don't think they wouldn't take the chance to steal other DFs if they were there.)

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There you go. The only 2 DFs there.

 

[Foul Legacy]

Ok so Ancient Weapons at chest are possible. Got it.

How tf ancient weapon fit in Chest and why would they be in a chest , they are huge.
Are you a complete idiot?

 

[God of Finance]

Kung-Fu Dugong gave you a logical answer.
From a character's perspective, it doesn't make sense they grab only two fruits if there were more, kwowing Ivankov and Kuma didn't look like they knew the fruits' apparence.

From an author's perspective, it doesn't make sense you're revealing two items and not a 3rd more important item. Because like I said, nothing prevents Oda to make his characters say that the Gura Gura no mi were there but his characters have to take only the Uo Uo no Mi and the Nikyu Nikyu no mi to escape.


Yeah, and that narrows it down to a range from 38 years ago to 25 years ago (let's say 30 years ago given the Vivre Cards said Whitebeard was the WSM way before the great age of pirates). So it could be anytime in a range of 13 years which doesn't help much.

Its not that complicated.

Oda doesn't give a lick about that inferior fruit.

 

[Herrera95]

How tf ancient weapon fit in Chest and why would they be in a chest , they are huge.
Are you a complete idiot?

I'm just using your logic. We don't know what were in those chest. And maybe those were special chest that could fit ancient weapons. Plus we don't know how bug Uranus is.

 

[Foul Legacy]

I'm just using your logic. We don't know what were in those chest. And maybe those were special chest that could fit ancient weapons. Plus we don't know how bug Uranus is.

I give up dude. Carry on. I can't debate stubburn people

 

[Herrera95]

I give up dude. Carry on. I can't debate stubburn people

This isn't about me but about your argument. Just used it against you.

 

[Foul Legacy]

This isn't about me but about your argument. Just used it against you.

Nope. Not even close.

- There were six chests , 2 were specifically mentioned for escape.
- We have no info on other 4 chests.
- Gura might be unknown fruit at that time , Fruits fits chest.

Ancient weapon do not fit chest , nobody giveaways ancient weapon.

My logic was still in parameters not dumb speculation like chest are magical device which can hold Ancient weapons.

Y'all simply can't grasp the concept of eating unknown fruit in one piece , Majority of the verse didn't knew what they in the first place.
Some fruit got hidden potential which was probably never discovered. Until eaten by someone worthy.

 

[Herrera95]

Nope. Not even close.

- There were six chests , 2 were specifically mentioned for escape.
- We have no info on other 4 chests.
- Gura might be unknown fruit at that time , Fruits fits chest.

Ancient weapon do not fit chest , nobody giveaways ancient weapon.

My logic was still in parameters not dumb speculation like chest are magical device which can hold Ancient weapons.

Y'all simply can't grasp the concept of eating unknown fruit in one piece , Majority of the verse didn't knew what they in the first place.
Some fruit got hidden potential which was probably never discovered. Until eaten by someone worthy.

You don't known the size of Uranus. And is not like giving it to anyone it would be to one of the Holy Knights anyway.

And they already showed how they didn't knew which fruit was which and that they only got 2. So there were no other DF there.

 

[Foul Legacy]

You don't known the size of Uranus. And is not like giving it to anyone it would be to one of the Holy Knights anyway

Dude me not knowing doesn't matter.
WG ain't giving Ancient weapon to Holy knights.

And they already showed how they didn't knew which fruit was which and that they only got 2. So there were no other DF there.

They already knew which fruit would help them escape , they knew the name and abilities as well. Think dude think.

 

[Herrera95]

Dude me not knowing doesn't matter.
WG ain't giving Ancient weapon to Holy knights.

Headcannon.

They already knew which fruit would help them escape , they knew the name and abilities as well. Think dude think.

They didn't knew which fruit was based on appearance so if there was any other there they would be in doubt too.