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MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Easy fix. Gege uses the convos between Gojo and Yuta explaining how they’re related and whatnot to make the eye transplant “work” and not seem like a total asspull.

I don’t think you’re understanding that I’m expressing that Yuta remained more himself then what we have now which either ends with him dying or staying in Gojos body and losing copy.
once again YUTA IS NOT A GOJO..... he is a distant relative, that is a total asspull...

thats like saying your last name is Uchiha but your cousins is Senju and saying your cousin is also an Uchiha even though they arent...
 
once again YUTA IS NOT A GOJO..... he is a distant relative, that is a total asspull...

thats like saying your last name is Uchiha but your cousins is Senju and saying your cousin is also an Uchiha even though they arent...
I agree with what you're saying about Yuta being a novice and not having had time to even approach his prime, but I don't agree with this talk about asspulls.

If we compare it with Naruto and distant relatives, wouldn't it be like Senju and Uzumaki? Naruto actually had the chakra reserve characteristic of the Senju despite not being one. Being distant relatives does mean they have the same ancestry up to a certain point.

Using an example from Jujutsu Kaisen, Megumi "is a Fushiguro", if he survived the manga and his bloodline continued, they'd become "Fushiguro, distant relatives of the Zenin". Would it be an asspull if one of his descendants got Ten Shadows despite "not being a Zenin but a distant relative"? It wouldn't.

Even if not awakening 6 Eyes himself, which would have been an asspull at this point in his life, being a distant relative could be used to justify his body being compatible with them if he got a transplant.

Gege didn't go that route, that's fine, but it would have been fine either way.


Also spoilers when? I'm suffering.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
I agree with what you're saying about Yuta being a novice and not having had time to even approach his prime, but I don't agree with this talk about asspulls.

If we compare it with Naruto and distant relatives, wouldn't it be like Senju and Uzumaki? Naruto actually had the chakra reserve characteristic of the Senju despite not being one. Being distant relatives does mean they have the same ancestry up to a certain point.

Using an example from Jujutsu Kaisen, Megumi "is a Fushiguro", if he survived the manga and his bloodline continued, they'd become "Fushiguro, distant relatives of the Zenin". Would it be an asspull if one of his descendants got Ten Shadows despite "not being a Zenin but a distant relative"? It wouldn't.

Even if not awakening 6 Eyes himself, which would have been an asspull at this point in his life, being a distant relative could be used to justify his body being compatible with them if he got a transplant.

Gege didn't go that route, that's fine, but it would have been fine either way.


Also spoilers when? I'm suffering.
two separate scenarios Naruto was the reincarnation of the Senju bloodline Asura along with Hashirma also being the reincarntion of Asura while Megumi is a true Zen'in via Tojo Zen'in his father, he simply has his mothers name, and so would be his children many generations later then that would change.

Gojo & Sukuna aren't even cousins they are distant relatives via Michizane Sugawara - now in this instance they are both more likely to have traits of the Sugawara clan than Yuta to have Gojo traits as they are going down different generations in their family tree we are talking a 900yo ancestor thats at least 9 generations of different paths which can lead to a number of different possibilities and new bloodlines we can use Naruto as our example: You have Kaguya who is the mother of all Senju, Uchiha and Byakuya, yet none are directly linked to one another, the Senju and Uchiha have the same Father which would can use as Sugawara & say the Gojo are Uchiha and Senju are Okkotsu even then Hashirama and Madara are what to one another? If they were more closely related it would be more of a believable and viable way for Yuta to inherent or copy any of the limitless techniques, furthermore it has been touched on so many times that Yuta can NOT and would NOT be able to use Limitless or 6E by simply copying or having Rika eat apart of Gojo. Shoko clearly outlines and explains so i'm not sure why everyone continues to call this bad writing or be pissed off that Yuta in order to use any sort of the Gojo Limitless Techniques he literally had to become a Gojo himself.

Yuta utilized his technique as best as he could in order to obtain such high level jujutsu via mimicking Kenjakus body transfer technique now its the extent of how it will end is the question.
 
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two separate scenarios Naruto was the reincarnation of the Senju bloodline Asura along with Hashirma also being the reincarntion of Asura while Megumi is a true Zen'in via Tojo Zen'in his father, he simply has his mothers name, and so would be his children many generations later then that would change.

Gojo & Sukuna aren't even cousins they are distant relatives via Michizane Sugawara - now in this instance they are both more likely to have traits of the Sugawara clan than Yuta to have Gojo traits as they are going down different generations in their family tree we are talking a 900yo ancestor thats at least 9 generations of different paths which can lead to a number of different possibilities and new bloodlines we can use Naruto as our example: You have Kaguya who is the mother of all Senju, Uchiha and Byakuya, yet none are directly linked to one another, the Senju and Uchiha have the same Father which would can use as Sugawara & say the Gojo are Uchiha and Senju are Okkotsu, if they were more closely related it would be more of a believable and viable way for Yuta to inherent or copy any of the limitless techniques, furthermore it has been touched on so many times that Yuta can NOT and would NOT be able to use Limitless or 6E by simply copying or having Rika eat apart of Gojo. Shoko clearly outlines and explains so i'm not sure why everyone continues to call this bad writing or be pissed off that Yuta in order to use any sort of the Gojo Limitless Techniques he literally had to become a Gojo himself.

Yuta utilized his technique as best as he could in order to obtain such high level jujutsu via mimicking Kenjakus body transfer technique now its the extent of how it will end is the question.
Honestly I don't remember the Michizane Sugawara stuff so I won't argue that.

I'll comment that the Kaguya ancestry part never made any sense to me. Kind of offtopic so feel free to skip it: her grandchildren already were like two completely different clans out of nowhere, while their distant descendants kept every single one of their "clan" traits through tens of generations, while at the same time the Hyuga were suddenly born from the Uchiha and have Kaguya's eyes instead of the inherited sharingan, while at the same time you have the Kaguya clan that somehow inherited her bone techniques out of nowhere.

Too messy.

Anyway, Yuta can't use limitless because he doesn't have six eyes, and he can't copy six eyes because it's not a cursed technique, that's what has been said, but has it been addressed why he can't get a transplant of the eyes? After which he would be capable of copying limitless.

I'm not pissed, and I'm not calling this bad writing, I'm only questioning why the transplant wasn't possible. I'm fine with what we got, although it is a big shame Yuta had to resort to this, I did want to see him grow more naturally.

Edit: The discussion on whether the transplant would have worked obviously ignores that fact that Yuta was dying in the scenario we got and the body transfer is the only thing that could even keep him alive. It's only about whether it was possible or not.
 

MUUGEN

呪のろいの王
Honestly I don't remember the Michizane Sugawara stuff so I won't argue that.

I'll comment that the Kaguya ancestry part never made any sense to me. Kind of offtopic so feel free to skip it: her grandchildren already were like two completely different clans out of nowhere, while their distant descendants kept every single one of their "clan" traits through tens of generations, while at the same time the Hyuga were suddenly born from the Uchiha and have Kaguya's eyes instead of the inherited sharingan, while at the same time you have the Kaguya clan that somehow inherited her bone techniques out of nowhere.

Too messy.

Anyway, Yuta can't use limitless because he doesn't have six eyes, and he can't copy six eyes because it's not a cursed technique, that's what has been said, but has it been addressed why he can't get a transplant of the eyes? After which he would be capable of copying limitless.

I'm not pissed, and I'm not calling this bad writing, I'm only questioning why the transplant wasn't possible. I'm fine with what we got, although it is a big shame Yuta had to resort to this, I did want to see him grow more naturally.

Edit: The discussion on whether the transplant would have worked obviously ignores that fact that Yuta was dying in the scenario we got and the body transfer is the only thing that could even keep him alive. It's only about whether it was possible or not.
& for the Kaguya stuff Naruto and Senju are same ancestor Hagorama while Hyuga are from another ancestor Hamura all are descendants of the Otsutsuki but not of each other:
 
& for the Kaguya stuff Naruto and Senju are same ancestor Hagorama while Hyuga are from another ancestor Hamura all are descendants of the Otsutsuki but not of each other:
I don't remember the Hamura guy from the manga. It's still weird to me how Kishimoto handled it, but that's interesting.

I seem to remember the Hyuga clan were said to be an offshot of the Uchiha back when Neji first fought, but that can be easily dismissed as the uninformed opinion of a character.
 
once again YUTA IS NOT A GOJO..... he is a distant relative, that is a total asspull...

thats like saying your last name is Uchiha but your cousins is Senju and saying your cousin is also an Uchiha even though they arent...
Regardless of everything we discussed prior, there is going to be some payoff to the distant relative thing
 
& for the Kaguya stuff Naruto and Senju are same ancestor Hagorama while Hyuga are from another ancestor Hamura all are descendants of the Otsutsuki but not of each other:
I don’t think this is a canon family tree. For ex Kaguya clan has never been confirmed to be descendants of Kaguya, and when Obito met Madara he claim him to be his “ancestor” in a direct way. Likely meaning Obito is descendant of Madara
 
I agree with what you're saying about Yuta being a novice and not having had time to even approach his prime, but I don't agree with this talk about asspulls.

If we compare it with Naruto and distant relatives, wouldn't it be like Senju and Uzumaki? Naruto actually had the chakra reserve characteristic of the Senju despite not being one. Being distant relatives does mean they have the same ancestry up to a certain point.

Using an example from Jujutsu Kaisen, Megumi "is a Fushiguro", if he survived the manga and his bloodline continued, they'd become "Fushiguro, distant relatives of the Zenin". Would it be an asspull if one of his descendants got Ten Shadows despite "not being a Zenin but a distant relative"? It wouldn't.

Even if not awakening 6 Eyes himself, which would have been an asspull at this point in his life, being a distant relative could be used to justify his body being compatible with them if he got a transplant.

Gege didn't go that route, that's fine, but it would have been fine either way.


Also spoilers when? I'm suffering.
Need me some fanart of Yuta with the Six Eyes. Alternate scenario where Yuta could only retrieve one of them and he's heterochromatic.
 
Well...

France is fucked up.

I'm cool... I try to be, at least.

Nonetheless my brothers and sisters...

Where

Are

My

Fucking

JJK spoilers?

:choppawhat:

Nah, I'm not nervous.

But still.

I really need...

Distraction.

NOW!!!

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